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Faison posted 08-14-2008 01:18 PM ET (US)
Anyone see any problems with this? Probably not for me, since it's in New Hampshire, and I've never bought anything on EBay before, so I'm skeptical.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/17-1989-boston-whaler-montauk_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem320286422248QQitemZ320286422248QQtimeoutZ1218734082461
Has anyone had any bad experiences buying from EBay?
Whaler_bob posted 08-14-2008 01:39 PM ET (US)
"Has anyone had any bad experiences buying from EBay?"
You are kidding aren't you? Ebay is probably the number one website for scams on the planet.
... That being said- the Montauk in question "looks" good, but it's a 100% complete can of worms, especially the engine- until you personally inspect it. Till then, if you bid on it- they might a well have put a cartoon drawing of it on the bid page- because the pictures are very low rez and don't reveal any fine detail at all.
68 WhaleR posted 08-14-2008 01:59 PM ET (US)
Ebay can be tricky. Ask questions as much as you can.
then seller should be albe to take as many photos as you ask. I have bought many vehicles on Ebay. If the photos are fuzzy and the person won't take new ones then there could be a problem. It is almost a crap shoot but there are some neat things out there. Do your homework on what you are looking to buy before hand. It helps. Biggest burn I had was from a guy in Germany that I won and paid for a military revolving light and siren set. He said he was having trouble sending it too me because of the US Customs people. I wait patiently for awile and then there was nothing. I was out around $500. Ouch! He even had a good ebay rating!
Anyway good luck. If you can get someone to look at it for you that is always good. I am sure some of the fine folks here migth be albe to help if they are near by.
I am working on trying to trade for a 87 Montauk. The 13 foot whaler is getting small with the family. a 2 and 4 year old and Mommmy we have fun on the whaler but the waves from other boats are a bit of a chalenge on the lakes here in NC.
good luck and let us know what you find.
Erick
Faison posted 08-14-2008 02:37 PM ET (US)
Well, you guys have convinced me. I am risk averse as it is, so now I will never buy anything on EBay. :) Seriously though, having read all the stories about knockoffs and scams, I have never bought anything on their website, so I guess I will rely on the good folks here to help me find a good Montauk. (As I've posted before, I am really PSYCHED to have found this forum.)
Erick....glad to hear you are upgrading. I love the 13, but way back when, my girlfriend at the time, who was a novice boat handler, flipped one going over a wake while turning. Pretty scary. I was in my Montauk at the time watching the whole thing. Took it straight to a mechanic to save the engine, but it never ran the same after that. And it was my buddy's Father's boat. Nice work.
Whaler_bob posted 08-14-2008 03:07 PM ET (US)
If you can get a boat from one of the members here at CW you have a good chance of being very happy with your purchase.
Faison posted 08-14-2008 03:22 PM ET (US)
That is my hope.
Wasatch Whaler posted 08-14-2008 05:55 PM ET (US)
While I've bought a fair amount of stuff on ebay, there are many sellers who embellish the condition of their stuff. For example: I won an auction on an item described as being "perfect". I would have described it as maybe "fair".
That being said, I think you're smart to stick with something sold by a CW member. It may take a little while, but you'll end up with a nicer boat.
Good Luck!
makai posted 08-14-2008 07:59 PM ET (US)
My feelings are a little different from those above. I have bought several boats and cars and I've always saved a lot of dough.
there several things to look out for
1) Seller's feedback---this one is 100% but only 10 comments-not enough info
2) I never pay a deposit. I contact the seller and arrange a closing date 24-48 hrs after close of auction. Only one seller has balked at this so I would not deal with him.
3) I tell the seller that I will not complete the sale if the boat is not 100% as described in ad.
4) I set a price I will pay for the boat and will not go above it no matter how the auction is going.
Now these precautions are not fool-proof, but so far they worked.
68 WhaleR posted 08-14-2008 08:02 PM ET (US)
We are actually keeping the 13 footer. I own it with a friend of mine and it is still a cool boat. It is my first boat. My wife has hardly any intrest in driving a boat and I love to drive so it works out well. Yea flipping would be a really bad thing in a 13ft whaler. I am on guard most of the time trying to always be aware of my suroundings and I have a hand on the throttle most all the time. I hope in the a 17 Montauk I can at least relax a bit more with respect for waves. In the 13 all waves are a bit nerve racking. I can see having a Montauk for a long time but what I really want is a Dauntless. I just love the seating on it and the really cushy seats. The 13 with the wood seats really hurts after awile. I had to get a stadium chair that straps to the wood for my wife. I use a cushion it helps some but my leg gets cramped sometimes.
later
Erick
makai posted 08-14-2008 08:04 PM ET (US)
One more thing---the seller is in the lakes region of New Hampshire---so it's probably a fresh water boat
Faison posted 08-14-2008 09:39 PM ET (US)
Hey Erick...there's a guy who just emailed me with a pretty sweet looking 18 Dauntless...he owns a montauk as well, and both look to be in really good condition. If you are interested I will email his email address to you. He got my email address from CW. It looks really nice, but I am set on a Montauk. Let me know.
Faison posted 08-14-2008 09:43 PM ET (US)
Sorry Erick...I meant Outrage....but it's pretty nice all the same
68 WhaleR posted 08-14-2008 10:05 PM ET (US)
thanks for the offer. I am in a holding pattern right now. Just drooling over all these nice whalers I see right now.
here is my situation.
I have several old vw busses. A friend of mine has been bugging me about my 66 panel van. Pretty good shape but needs motor work and a paint job. His brother has a 17 ft montauk. We went camping a few weeks ago and he mentioned that his brother was going to sell it. I told him I was interested. He said he would trade for the pannel. My wife said right away "he** yea!" before i even had a chance to think. He said it was a 1992 model and that it was in good shape. I said ok that would be great.
He has to sell his 71 Westfalia camper first to pay his brother for the whaler to give to me. I went to check it out and it ended up being a 1987 with a yamaha 90 on the back. Not sure of the year motor but it was just ok looking. boat was well used, thick hull paint. needed to be cleaned up. Wood was ok not great.
He said his brother got it for $6500 which i though was ok for what it was. His brother was going to sell it to him for like $8500. Not cutting him a deal. I thought for a moment that as a friend that if his brother would not cut him a deal that I would take $8k for the bus and then get a better boat with me adding $1500. I figure on getting something around $9500 that way it should be really good used boat and motor. If he gets the boat for $6500 then I will just get the 87. Sound weird, yea I know, just trying to get a bigger whaler and cutting a friend some slack. He will clean it up a bit and repaint the bottom. I don't have time to fix up a boat. too many cars and a 2 and 4 year old that take up all my time. Sorry for the rant. Back to our standard broadcast!
Erick
deepwater posted 08-15-2008 06:54 AM ET (US)
i can do better than that but ya have to come up here
Faison posted 08-15-2008 08:55 AM ET (US)
Sounds good.....I know the feeling of being pushed for time, with 2 kids, as I'm sure a lot of people on this board are in the same boat....ha, ha...pardon the pun. Sometimes I make myself really laugh.
Anyway, good luck with the boat....where do you go around G'boro?
68 WhaleR posted 08-15-2008 10:24 AM ET (US)
Deepwater I do like your boat and wish you luck in your sale. I actually really like the radar and mast! Sweet!
The boat i finally will get will have to have rear seats, center console, front cooler seat and bow cushion. Just family boat that we can grow with. Like water sports someday when the kids get bigger.
Faison, I usualy go to Blues lake boating as it is just 12 miles away. When we have the time we like to explore other lakes. For now we just like to motor around and relax. Hope to try fishing sometime but I need to learn all over again.
Anyway have a good weekend,
Erick
deepwater posted 08-15-2008 07:19 PM ET (US)
ok ill keep the montauk for now

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Author	Topic: Montauk on EBay
Faison	posted 08-14-2008 01:18 PM ET (US) Anyone see any problems with this? Probably not for me, since it's in New Hampshire, and I've never bought anything on EBay before, so I'm skeptical. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/17-1989-boston-whaler-montauk_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem320286422248QQitemZ320286422248QQtimeoutZ1218734082461 Has anyone had any bad experiences buying from EBay?
Whaler_bob	posted 08-14-2008 01:39 PM ET (US) "Has anyone had any bad experiences buying from EBay?" You are kidding aren't you? Ebay is probably the number one website for scams on the planet. ... That being said- the Montauk in question "looks" good, but it's a 100% complete can of worms, especially the engine- until you personally inspect it. Till then, if you bid on it- they might a well have put a cartoon drawing of it on the bid page- because the pictures are very low rez and don't reveal any fine detail at all.
68 WhaleR	posted 08-14-2008 01:59 PM ET (US) Ebay can be tricky. Ask questions as much as you can. then seller should be albe to take as many photos as you ask. I have bought many vehicles on Ebay. If the photos are fuzzy and the person won't take new ones then there could be a problem. It is almost a crap shoot but there are some neat things out there. Do your homework on what you are looking to buy before hand. It helps. Biggest burn I had was from a guy in Germany that I won and paid for a military revolving light and siren set. He said he was having trouble sending it too me because of the US Customs people. I wait patiently for awile and then there was nothing. I was out around $500. Ouch! He even had a good ebay rating! Anyway good luck. If you can get someone to look at it for you that is always good. I am sure some of the fine folks here migth be albe to help if they are near by. I am working on trying to trade for a 87 Montauk. The 13 foot whaler is getting small with the family. a 2 and 4 year old and Mommmy we have fun on the whaler but the waves from other boats are a bit of a chalenge on the lakes here in NC. good luck and let us know what you find. Erick
Faison	posted 08-14-2008 02:37 PM ET (US) Well, you guys have convinced me. I am risk averse as it is, so now I will never buy anything on EBay. :) Seriously though, having read all the stories about knockoffs and scams, I have never bought anything on their website, so I guess I will rely on the good folks here to help me find a good Montauk. (As I've posted before, I am really PSYCHED to have found this forum.) Erick....glad to hear you are upgrading. I love the 13, but way back when, my girlfriend at the time, who was a novice boat handler, flipped one going over a wake while turning. Pretty scary. I was in my Montauk at the time watching the whole thing. Took it straight to a mechanic to save the engine, but it never ran the same after that. And it was my buddy's Father's boat. Nice work.
Whaler_bob	posted 08-14-2008 03:07 PM ET (US) If you can get a boat from one of the members here at CW you have a good chance of being very happy with your purchase.
Faison	posted 08-14-2008 03:22 PM ET (US) That is my hope.
Wasatch Whaler	posted 08-14-2008 05:55 PM ET (US) While I've bought a fair amount of stuff on ebay, there are many sellers who embellish the condition of their stuff. For example: I won an auction on an item described as being "perfect". I would have described it as maybe "fair". That being said, I think you're smart to stick with something sold by a CW member. It may take a little while, but you'll end up with a nicer boat. Good Luck!
makai	posted 08-14-2008 07:59 PM ET (US) My feelings are a little different from those above. I have bought several boats and cars and I've always saved a lot of dough. there several things to look out for 1) Seller's feedback---this one is 100% but only 10 comments-not enough info 2) I never pay a deposit. I contact the seller and arrange a closing date 24-48 hrs after close of auction. Only one seller has balked at this so I would not deal with him. 3) I tell the seller that I will not complete the sale if the boat is not 100% as described in ad. 4) I set a price I will pay for the boat and will not go above it no matter how the auction is going. Now these precautions are not fool-proof, but so far they worked.
68 WhaleR	posted 08-14-2008 08:02 PM ET (US) We are actually keeping the 13 footer. I own it with a friend of mine and it is still a cool boat. It is my first boat. My wife has hardly any intrest in driving a boat and I love to drive so it works out well. Yea flipping would be a really bad thing in a 13ft whaler. I am on guard most of the time trying to always be aware of my suroundings and I have a hand on the throttle most all the time. I hope in the a 17 Montauk I can at least relax a bit more with respect for waves. In the 13 all waves are a bit nerve racking. I can see having a Montauk for a long time but what I really want is a Dauntless. I just love the seating on it and the really cushy seats. The 13 with the wood seats really hurts after awile. I had to get a stadium chair that straps to the wood for my wife. I use a cushion it helps some but my leg gets cramped sometimes. later Erick
makai	posted 08-14-2008 08:04 PM ET (US) One more thing---the seller is in the lakes region of New Hampshire---so it's probably a fresh water boat
Faison	posted 08-14-2008 09:39 PM ET (US) Hey Erick...there's a guy who just emailed me with a pretty sweet looking 18 Dauntless...he owns a montauk as well, and both look to be in really good condition. If you are interested I will email his email address to you. He got my email address from CW. It looks really nice, but I am set on a Montauk. Let me know.
Faison	posted 08-14-2008 09:43 PM ET (US) Sorry Erick...I meant Outrage....but it's pretty nice all the same
68 WhaleR	posted 08-14-2008 10:05 PM ET (US) thanks for the offer. I am in a holding pattern right now. Just drooling over all these nice whalers I see right now. here is my situation. I have several old vw busses. A friend of mine has been bugging me about my 66 panel van. Pretty good shape but needs motor work and a paint job. His brother has a 17 ft montauk. We went camping a few weeks ago and he mentioned that his brother was going to sell it. I told him I was interested. He said he would trade for the pannel. My wife said right away "he** yea!" before i even had a chance to think. He said it was a 1992 model and that it was in good shape. I said ok that would be great. He has to sell his 71 Westfalia camper first to pay his brother for the whaler to give to me. I went to check it out and it ended up being a 1987 with a yamaha 90 on the back. Not sure of the year motor but it was just ok looking. boat was well used, thick hull paint. needed to be cleaned up. Wood was ok not great. He said his brother got it for $6500 which i though was ok for what it was. His brother was going to sell it to him for like $8500. Not cutting him a deal. I thought for a moment that as a friend that if his brother would not cut him a deal that I would take $8k for the bus and then get a better boat with me adding $1500. I figure on getting something around $9500 that way it should be really good used boat and motor. If he gets the boat for $6500 then I will just get the 87. Sound weird, yea I know, just trying to get a bigger whaler and cutting a friend some slack. He will clean it up a bit and repaint the bottom. I don't have time to fix up a boat. too many cars and a 2 and 4 year old that take up all my time. Sorry for the rant. Back to our standard broadcast! Erick
deepwater	posted 08-15-2008 06:54 AM ET (US) i can do better than that but ya have to come up here
Faison	posted 08-15-2008 08:55 AM ET (US) Sounds good.....I know the feeling of being pushed for time, with 2 kids, as I'm sure a lot of people on this board are in the same boat....ha, ha...pardon the pun. Sometimes I make myself really laugh. Anyway, good luck with the boat....where do you go around G'boro?
68 WhaleR	posted 08-15-2008 10:24 AM ET (US) Deepwater I do like your boat and wish you luck in your sale. I actually really like the radar and mast! Sweet! The boat i finally will get will have to have rear seats, center console, front cooler seat and bow cushion. Just family boat that we can grow with. Like water sports someday when the kids get bigger. Faison, I usualy go to Blues lake boating as it is just 12 miles away. When we have the time we like to explore other lakes. For now we just like to motor around and relax. Hope to try fishing sometime but I need to learn all over again. Anyway have a good weekend, Erick
deepwater	posted 08-15-2008 07:19 PM ET (US) ok ill keep the montauk for now