posted 10-16-2008 11:27 AM ET (US)        

1978 21' Outrage with 1988 Yamaha 130 hp and 1978 EZ Loader trailer.
Original gel coat is beautiful
Custom Mills sun top and 3 sided enclosure Bottom redone with epoxy barrier coat and bottom paint Custom aft bench seat - removable New cushions New cooler seat All wood redone in Cetol "Natural"
Two batteries w/switch in console
VHF, depth, speed, water temp, compass
Life jackets, lines, fenders, flares, fire ext.
Rare fore ward lifting eyes
New bilge pump
Engine has low hours and starts and runs great Trailer is serviceable but needs brakes

Beautiful head-turning example of a classic 'banana' Outrage. Fuel efficient, stable and needs nothing.

$11,500.00 Contact Rick 920-421-0304 days, 920 854-2196 eves and weekends

posted 10-22-2008 01:49 PM ET (US)            

That should tell you real quick if the deal can be done.

posted 03-29-2009 09:27 AM ET (US)         

Can you please describe the fuel system on this boat? I do not believe this vintage of Outrage models had an integral fuel tank. Is that correct?

Also, please explain the brown paper taped to the deck. Is that just for protection and is the non-skid underneath original and in good shape?

posted 03-29-2009 10:50 AM ET (US)            

The fuel system is a 40 gallon belly tank. The first couple of years there was no built-in fuel system and external tanks were used.

posted 04-01-2009 09:44 AM ET (US)            

You have mail.

Thanks,

posted 04-08-2009 06:43 PM ET (US)            

It's $11,500.00 "asking." No one has really responded with any concrete interest. It is a pristine example of a rare breed that needs nothing. Reduce it to what? It's very fairly priced. What similar can possibly be purchased at this price. Or more to the point, what could someone buy for this price that is remotely similar? And how often does/will something like this become available?

To all of you I ask: Wherein lies the problem?

posted 04-08-2009 08:13 PM ET (US)         

First of all, since this is not your boat, I know you will take the comments from this "super-perfectionist" classic Whaler fan as constructive. I also realize there are only a few here who would agree with me, but a majority who would not.

To begin, as is, I think the boat is, as you suggest, a bargain, particularly because of the original gelcoat is in excellent condition. Boats like this are hard to find. If I wasn't up to eyeballs in Whalers, including my ribside 21, I would buy it as project to bring it back to classic original, yacht quality condition, then re-sell it. But I might have to buy it cheaper for that purpose as you will see.

Secondly, I think that many of the people here, and on Whaler Central, really are looking to own a boat like this, but in this economy are simply holding out for the super-bargain that Ritzy is implying, figuring they would have to improve the boat as I would want to do. Here is what I think is wrong with it, and what I would do to it:

1. BOTTOM PAINT. AS nice as that job is, I would want it removed, period, as I think it destroys value for someone who wants a show piece classic. What would YachtWorks charge to soda-blast it, wet sand and bring it back? Probably a lot. I assume the bottom gelcoat is all original underneath the paint. If that epoxy barrier coat couldn't be removed, that alone would be a deal killer for someone who wants a clean bottom like me. So a buyer might have to spend a lot of money to cure that problem. In the Great lakes region, paint is not used as much as it is on the Coasts, and buyers looking for a "trailer classic" don't want it.

2. The white starboard "stuff" added to the boat hurts it's value, as it's not original and looks homemade. Rod racks and those funny fittings on the bow deck for the canvas stand out. Holes to be filled, etc cost money.

3. The aftermarket white upholstery is not original, and many would want to replace it, and hurts the boat's classic appeal. A new pilot seat from Halls is needed for the RPS, and the stern seat would be a toss, or a resale to someone who doesn't care. If I wanted a stern seat, it would be the Whaler tan pleat original curved design. Are the original teak hatch covers still in place under the seat?

4. A small detail, but the oversize Whaler logo is not right, and needs to be redone correctly.

5. The console and instrument panel looks great on the exterior, but that battery installion, TO ME, is a disaster.
I hate batteries in consoles of these old boats, and would clean out that mess and re-wire as needed. The battery is supposed to be in the starboard stern, under the seat, with the oil tank, or second battery if 4-stroke is installed, under the port side. So I'm looking at the expense of re-doing some of the electrical and getting rid of that heavy and unneeded cabling.

6. I'm sure the engine is fine, but that squat looking Yamaha 130 just looks bad on the boat, a purely personal, visual, opinion. I do know it's a great little motor, but I would have to get rid of it. I'd want 150HP on her, even if it was Yamaha!

7. I hope you'll forginve me for this one, but that trailer is an absolute piece of junk for a nice boat like this. It also is way too small and short for the boat. So a buyer like me would be looking to toss that one, and buy a new Continental galvanized poly keel roller model, with single axle disc brakes, for about $2500. More expense, but needed for any thype of trailering distance at all.

8. Even though the sun top is Mills, the aftermarket canvas curtains don't look right, including the blue color which not used on these boats. Dick Fisher would not approve. So I would sell off the Suntop and curtains to a non-perfectionist, and be in touch with Mills for a Toast Sunbrella Flying top set for the boat. Another $2500 at least, and more snaps and fittings to remove, and holes to fill. It also appears the boat does not have a mooring cover, so add on another 1K for a Mills cover.

So, it would be easy for me to drop another 12K on this boat. If it was a boat I would keep, I think it's worth every penny equipped as I described and bought at your price, but few buyers would do this, or feel this way today. And as I said before, if that epoxy barrier coat can't be removed, many buyers like me are automatically out right at the start.

posted 04-09-2009 01:44 AM ET (US)            

The trailer does look beat and without brakes it would not be safe to tow it on highways unless the tow vehicle was a one ton dully.

I'm sure the motor is low hours with it being a northern boat but it still a 20+ year old motor.