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Buckda posted 12-17-2011 08:00 PM ET (US)
I'm looking for a lifting ring to use to lift my 2000 Johnson 130 HP V-4's.
If you know of one that is available to borrow or rent, that would be fine, or of a used one that may be for sale, that'd be great.
Thanks!

contender posted 12-19-2011 09:39 PM ET (US)
Bucka: Get yourself a steering wheel puller (has 4 slotted legs 3 at 120 degrees each and one between two of the legs), and purchase a 1/2 solid eye ring about 6 inches in length with at least 4 heavy washers and two nuts. The top of the flywheel takes 3, 3/8 fine thread bolts (these bolts should be in the kit), and use the solid eye ring for the center of the puller. When using the puller tool invert it and it has a flat bottom so the bolts sit level. The kit cost between 15-20 dollars and maybe 5 for the 1/2 solid eye ring. I have used this many times even for my 6 cylinder Yamaha (I also have a 140 Evinrude) The OMC tool you are talking about, OMC wants over 120 dollars for, I know I have tried to purchase one before, and that's why I made my own with the steering puller....Merry Christmas
DeeVee posted 12-19-2011 10:07 PM ET (US)
I used the same method Contender describes when I installed a 3.3 liter Etec on my Outrage 22 this past summer. The dealer I bought the outboard from recommended it to me. It was simple to set up and worked very well for me.
Doug
Tohsgib posted 12-20-2011 12:07 AM ET (US)
Wow...unlike Mercury, OMC "used" to have a lifting ring on each engine for the most part back in the days. Some companies still do.
contender posted 12-20-2011 12:28 PM ET (US)
I think Mercury has done away with theirs as well, cut costs
L H G posted 12-20-2011 02:51 PM ET (US)
Mercury has the best engine liftng system of anyone. A very substantial lifting ring (available from them) threads into the top of the flywheel/crankshaft assembly, for perfect center of gravity liftng.
K Albus posted 12-20-2011 04:18 PM ET (US)
I nominate Larry's post for Post of the Year.

quote:
Mercury has the best engine liftng system of anyone. A very substantial lifting ring (available from them) threads into the top of the flywheel/crankshaft assembly, for perfect center of gravity lift[i]ng.
Man, that is dedication to a brand!
K Albus posted 12-20-2011 04:21 PM ET (US)
Highest quality, most powerful, most consistently under-rated, motors and the best lifting system. How could anybody buy any other brand of motor?
6992WHALER posted 12-20-2011 06:11 PM ET (US)
Kevin, I am surprised that the "non real" Boston Whaler Company puts them on their boats. Larry made it very clear that all the components on the "post classic" whalers are low quality inferior, junk.
contender posted 12-20-2011 08:04 PM ET (US)
I think LHG has been beat up enough....So I will let it slide...
6992WHALER posted 12-20-2011 09:17 PM ET (US)
I am going to apologize for the post I made above.
Sorry LHG I do not know you well enough to have made that comment.
I think it is below the level of this forum, and I have been disappointed lately in the name calling and personal attacks made by its members.
So I apologize to all for my participating in it.
John
L H G posted 12-21-2011 12:05 AM ET (US)
No problem gentlemen. I was simply responding to Contenders post. My first new Merc, a 1970 50 HP model, had the identical screw-in lifting ring, so I think it has been around for a long time and not recently discontinued.
I do not know if it is used on the Verados.
Buckda posted 12-21-2011 05:58 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the suggestions.
The good news: someone from this forum may have one to lend or sell to another forum member if they need it.
The bad news is that they informed me that they are excercising the sellers perogative not to sell it to me.
Apparently I'm not the only "asshhole" who participates here. I am *usually* a better speller though.
It is good to have company though.
6992WHALER posted 12-21-2011 09:34 AM ET (US)
That behavior reminds me of Jr High.
L H G posted 12-21-2011 06:01 PM ET (US)
Dave - considering the good customer that you have been, and Jim's connection, wouldn't Lockeman's help you out?
Buckda posted 12-21-2011 07:55 PM ET (US)
Larry - I may contact them, however, I'm no longer "local".
I was hoping to have one that I could use for a bit longer term. I'll be pulling the engines after Christmas and may not re-install them until March or April.
Tohsgib posted 12-22-2011 02:26 PM ET (US)
I would go to an outboard junkyard and get one off an older OMC. I bet the older 120/140's still had one from the factory on them...my 94 225 did.
My bud has an old 120 at his shop I will look.
contender posted 12-22-2011 06:49 PM ET (US)
Do not bother, I have one (140 looper 1985) no lifting ring.
DeeVee posted 12-22-2011 10:59 PM ET (US)
The puller contender and I wrote of earlier in the thread is really inexpensive and performs the task admirably. Unless the factory part fell from the sky, into your lap, I don't see any reason to not use the puller set up.
Doug
Buckda posted 12-23-2011 09:38 AM ET (US)
Can you post a link to the steering wheel puller you guys are referring to?
The only ones I'm seeing in a google search are exactly what I have, which is not what you're describing.
Thanks.
Dave
Tom Hemphill posted 12-23-2011 10:21 AM ET (US)
I think the tool contender describes is also known as a "harmonic balancer puller."
Buckda posted 12-23-2011 11:11 AM ET (US)
Bingo Tom - that generated results more like the item described above. Thanks for that.
I'll report back how it went when I get this done (probably over New Year's).
contender posted 12-23-2011 04:05 PM ET (US)
I think Tom is correct, the correct wording is harmonic balance puller (have seen then listed as steering wheel pullers as well). Just for a joke I checked ebay last night for these and found them in kits from $100 down to $6. I also did a search for a lifting ring, Mercury and Yamaha were around $190. for one, could no find any for OMC.
Bucka: once you see the tool I think it will give you the better picture and so you can understand what we are talking about. Just make sure the eye ring you purchase is closed and I would go with at least 1/2 inch. You can center it on the tool and with two nuts hold it in place....Merry Christmas
Tohsgib posted 12-24-2011 11:23 AM ET (US)
You could also use a lifting strap but that would be too obvious.
Buckda posted 01-01-2012 07:31 PM ET (US)
I don't like the idea of a lifting strap on the lower plastic shroud of a larger outboard engine. A smaller one (50 hp or less) and I'm cool with that simple solution. OMC/Mercury and others use a lift ring for a reason.
Thanks to CONTENDER for his advice. I've accomplished this task using his recommendations, and written a report about it in the repairs/mods section, complete with photos.
Dave
contender posted 01-01-2012 09:14 PM ET (US)
Buckda: always another way to skin a cat, thanks for the congrats....
Tohsgib posted 01-02-2012 12:06 PM ET (US)
Uh...you must remove the plastic cowling first(4-6 screws?). You then wrap it around the base just where the powerhead meets the mid.
Buckda posted 01-02-2012 06:09 PM ET (US)
Nick –
Uncle.
In your years of posting under different usernames for thousands of posts, I’ve learned just a few things:
1) Anything I can do you can do better. You can do anything better than me.
2) Everything marine-related can be found for cheaper, faster, better, etc..in Florida. Everyone else pays way too much, even if they factor in their time, travel or shipping and the cost is less than buying it in Florida…well, they’re getting ripped off. Totally.
3) You can’t pull-start a 454 in a Donzi when you’ve disconnected the battery.
Uncle already. Uncle.
Love,
The Asshole.
Tohsgib posted 01-03-2012 11:15 AM ET (US)
Whatever Dave. Just stating that a 6' tow strap wraps nicely around the engine and you don't need to find a welder and 3 different stores to make a puller or post and add for somebody to lend you their $120 tool...mechanics don't lend out tools. Does not hurt to try though. I thought my posts were helpfull until you posted the unpostable:
The fact that you stated that you would not want to break the plastic cowl is completely retarded. You might be correct as only an asshole would do something like that instead of removing about 4 screws. You said it, not me.
Nephew
gusgus posted 01-03-2012 01:01 PM ET (US)
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/019568.html
lizard posted 01-04-2012 08:37 PM ET (US)
Tried to avoid this thread for some time now. Dave, you have shown AMAZING patience. For the negative (same old) critical posters- really, is it worth it, to be so nasty, on a forum?
Binkster posted 01-05-2012 08:55 AM ET (US)
I have the lifting ring for Mercurys of which Larry speaks. I bought it in 1984 when I bought a pair of '84 Merc 115 inline sixs. Paid about $25 back then. Its really simple just screws into the flywheel. Never used it since but I'm hoping to find another inline six Merc at some point. Every time I have to lift an outboard, I think of this ring. My 25 Merc/Tohatsu has a ring bolted to the block next to the flywheel. The motor hangs half cocked. Stupid arrangement. My '61 Evinrude 75hp V4 has a hanger that is bolted to both sides near the flywheel and when lifted in place creates a center lift. As good as the mercury ring and is contained on the motor, I don't know why they didn't continue this system. I hate using straps, but sometimes there is no alternative.

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Author	Topic: OMC lifting ring - wanted to buy, rent or borrow
Buckda	posted 12-17-2011 08:00 PM ET (US) I'm looking for a lifting ring to use to lift my 2000 Johnson 130 HP V-4's. If you know of one that is available to borrow or rent, that would be fine, or of a used one that may be for sale, that'd be great. Thanks!
contender	posted 12-19-2011 09:39 PM ET (US) Bucka: Get yourself a steering wheel puller (has 4 slotted legs 3 at 120 degrees each and one between two of the legs), and purchase a 1/2 solid eye ring about 6 inches in length with at least 4 heavy washers and two nuts. The top of the flywheel takes 3, 3/8 fine thread bolts (these bolts should be in the kit), and use the solid eye ring for the center of the puller. When using the puller tool invert it and it has a flat bottom so the bolts sit level. The kit cost between 15-20 dollars and maybe 5 for the 1/2 solid eye ring. I have used this many times even for my 6 cylinder Yamaha (I also have a 140 Evinrude) The OMC tool you are talking about, OMC wants over 120 dollars for, I know I have tried to purchase one before, and that's why I made my own with the steering puller....Merry Christmas
DeeVee	posted 12-19-2011 10:07 PM ET (US) I used the same method Contender describes when I installed a 3.3 liter Etec on my Outrage 22 this past summer. The dealer I bought the outboard from recommended it to me. It was simple to set up and worked very well for me. Doug
Tohsgib	posted 12-20-2011 12:07 AM ET (US) Wow...unlike Mercury, OMC "used" to have a lifting ring on each engine for the most part back in the days. Some companies still do.
contender	posted 12-20-2011 12:28 PM ET (US) I think Mercury has done away with theirs as well, cut costs
L H G	posted 12-20-2011 02:51 PM ET (US) Mercury has the best engine liftng system of anyone. A very substantial lifting ring (available from them) threads into the top of the flywheel/crankshaft assembly, for perfect center of gravity liftng.
K Albus	posted 12-20-2011 04:18 PM ET (US) I nominate Larry's post for Post of the Year. quote: Mercury has the best engine liftng system of anyone. A very substantial lifting ring (available from them) threads into the top of the flywheel/crankshaft assembly, for perfect center of gravity lift[i]ng. Man, that is dedication to a brand!
K Albus	posted 12-20-2011 04:21 PM ET (US) Highest quality, most powerful, most consistently under-rated, motors and the best lifting system. How could anybody buy any other brand of motor?
6992WHALER	posted 12-20-2011 06:11 PM ET (US) Kevin, I am surprised that the "non real" Boston Whaler Company puts them on their boats. Larry made it very clear that all the components on the "post classic" whalers are low quality inferior, junk.
contender	posted 12-20-2011 08:04 PM ET (US) I think LHG has been beat up enough....So I will let it slide...
6992WHALER	posted 12-20-2011 09:17 PM ET (US) I am going to apologize for the post I made above. Sorry LHG I do not know you well enough to have made that comment. I think it is below the level of this forum, and I have been disappointed lately in the name calling and personal attacks made by its members. So I apologize to all for my participating in it. John
L H G	posted 12-21-2011 12:05 AM ET (US) No problem gentlemen. I was simply responding to Contenders post. My first new Merc, a 1970 50 HP model, had the identical screw-in lifting ring, so I think it has been around for a long time and not recently discontinued. I do not know if it is used on the Verados.
Buckda	posted 12-21-2011 05:58 AM ET (US) Thanks for the suggestions. The good news: someone from this forum may have one to lend or sell to another forum member if they need it. The bad news is that they informed me that they are excercising the sellers perogative not to sell it to me. Apparently I'm not the only "asshhole" who participates here. I am usually a better speller though. It is good to have company though.
6992WHALER	posted 12-21-2011 09:34 AM ET (US) That behavior reminds me of Jr High.
L H G	posted 12-21-2011 06:01 PM ET (US) Dave - considering the good customer that you have been, and Jim's connection, wouldn't Lockeman's help you out?
Buckda	posted 12-21-2011 07:55 PM ET (US) Larry - I may contact them, however, I'm no longer "local". I was hoping to have one that I could use for a bit longer term. I'll be pulling the engines after Christmas and may not re-install them until March or April.
Tohsgib	posted 12-22-2011 02:26 PM ET (US) I would go to an outboard junkyard and get one off an older OMC. I bet the older 120/140's still had one from the factory on them...my 94 225 did. My bud has an old 120 at his shop I will look.
contender	posted 12-22-2011 06:49 PM ET (US) Do not bother, I have one (140 looper 1985) no lifting ring.
DeeVee	posted 12-22-2011 10:59 PM ET (US) The puller contender and I wrote of earlier in the thread is really inexpensive and performs the task admirably. Unless the factory part fell from the sky, into your lap, I don't see any reason to not use the puller set up. Doug
Buckda	posted 12-23-2011 09:38 AM ET (US) Can you post a link to the steering wheel puller you guys are referring to? The only ones I'm seeing in a google search are exactly what I have, which is not what you're describing. Thanks. Dave
Tom Hemphill	posted 12-23-2011 10:21 AM ET (US) I think the tool contender describes is also known as a "harmonic balancer puller."
Buckda	posted 12-23-2011 11:11 AM ET (US) Bingo Tom - that generated results more like the item described above. Thanks for that. I'll report back how it went when I get this done (probably over New Year's).
contender	posted 12-23-2011 04:05 PM ET (US) I think Tom is correct, the correct wording is harmonic balance puller (have seen then listed as steering wheel pullers as well). Just for a joke I checked ebay last night for these and found them in kits from $100 down to $6. I also did a search for a lifting ring, Mercury and Yamaha were around $190. for one, could no find any for OMC. Bucka: once you see the tool I think it will give you the better picture and so you can understand what we are talking about. Just make sure the eye ring you purchase is closed and I would go with at least 1/2 inch. You can center it on the tool and with two nuts hold it in place....Merry Christmas
Tohsgib	posted 12-24-2011 11:23 AM ET (US) You could also use a lifting strap but that would be too obvious.
Buckda	posted 01-01-2012 07:31 PM ET (US) I don't like the idea of a lifting strap on the lower plastic shroud of a larger outboard engine. A smaller one (50 hp or less) and I'm cool with that simple solution. OMC/Mercury and others use a lift ring for a reason. Thanks to CONTENDER for his advice. I've accomplished this task using his recommendations, and written a report about it in the repairs/mods section, complete with photos. Dave
contender	posted 01-01-2012 09:14 PM ET (US) Buckda: always another way to skin a cat, thanks for the congrats....
Tohsgib	posted 01-02-2012 12:06 PM ET (US) Uh...you must remove the plastic cowling first(4-6 screws?). You then wrap it around the base just where the powerhead meets the mid.
Buckda	posted 01-02-2012 06:09 PM ET (US) Nick – Uncle. In your years of posting under different usernames for thousands of posts, I’ve learned just a few things: 1) Anything I can do you can do better. You can do anything better than me. 2) Everything marine-related can be found for cheaper, faster, better, etc..in Florida. Everyone else pays way too much, even if they factor in their time, travel or shipping and the cost is less than buying it in Florida…well, they’re getting ripped off. Totally. 3) You can’t pull-start a 454 in a Donzi when you’ve disconnected the battery. Uncle already. Uncle. Love, The Asshole.
Tohsgib	posted 01-03-2012 11:15 AM ET (US) Whatever Dave. Just stating that a 6' tow strap wraps nicely around the engine and you don't need to find a welder and 3 different stores to make a puller or post and add for somebody to lend you their $120 tool...mechanics don't lend out tools. Does not hurt to try though. I thought my posts were helpfull until you posted the unpostable: The fact that you stated that you would not want to break the plastic cowl is completely retarded. You might be correct as only an asshole would do something like that instead of removing about 4 screws. You said it, not me. Nephew
gusgus	posted 01-03-2012 01:01 PM ET (US) http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/019568.html
lizard	posted 01-04-2012 08:37 PM ET (US) Tried to avoid this thread for some time now. Dave, you have shown AMAZING patience. For the negative (same old) critical posters- really, is it worth it, to be so nasty, on a forum?
Binkster	posted 01-05-2012 08:55 AM ET (US) I have the lifting ring for Mercurys of which Larry speaks. I bought it in 1984 when I bought a pair of '84 Merc 115 inline sixs. Paid about $25 back then. Its really simple just screws into the flywheel. Never used it since but I'm hoping to find another inline six Merc at some point. Every time I have to lift an outboard, I think of this ring. My 25 Merc/Tohatsu has a ring bolted to the block next to the flywheel. The motor hangs half cocked. Stupid arrangement. My '61 Evinrude 75hp V4 has a hanger that is bolted to both sides near the flywheel and when lifted in place creates a center lift. As good as the mercury ring and is contained on the motor, I don't know why they didn't continue this system. I hate using straps, but sometimes there is no alternative.