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Smallfrye posted 05-08-2013 02:16 PM ET (US)
I found a classic Pate 24 gal fiberglass fuel tank in back of the garage. If anyone is interested, let me know what you wan to pay? Shipping will not be cheap, so calculate it from ZIP 78759 and make me any fair offer.
Photo is available if you drop me a PM.
Jim
wezie posted 05-08-2013 07:05 PM ET (US)
Unless you can supply real fuel and not garbage gas with alcohol, that tank is a liability. The alcohol breaks down the fiberglass and it clogs and ruins your engine.
It is worthless without real non alcohol gas.
Sorry
EJO posted 05-09-2013 10:16 AM ET (US)
Jim can you give overall size and weight?
Smallfrye posted 05-09-2013 02:18 PM ET (US)
19" wide , 30" long and 15" tall with handels extened to max height.
Weight is approx 25#
This is all without a box, so plan for a little more.
ratherwhalering posted 05-09-2013 04:09 PM ET (US)
Jim what is the manufacture date? Pate produced tanks that were ethonol resistant in the twilight of their day.
Smallfrye posted 05-10-2013 09:57 AM ET (US)
I can not find a manufacture date but there are reminants of a label warning against the use of Methanol.
BTW: this is actually a 27 gal tank, not 24.
frontier posted 05-10-2013 11:31 AM ET (US)
I bought a used Montauk a few years ago with a beautiful 24 gallon Pate fiberglass tank.
I had to take it to the dump - too much of a gamble of engine damage to use it.
We can blame it all on Ethanol,the 'politicians gas".
It can ruin fiberglass and some rubber compounds.
The production of Ethanol takes much needed food out of the system, and our cars and trucks get worse mileage using it.
Russ 13 posted 05-13-2013 11:16 AM ET (US)
Amen to that last post.
More cost to the consumer, for a diluted product!
I had a fiberglass tank "melt" from ethanol, I would not
use one, with today's fuel.
Tohsgib posted 05-13-2013 12:07 PM ET (US)
We have plenty of gas stations around here that sell ethanol free gas at the pump. Costs about $.20 more than super and is 90 octane. Get the Pate and pay a bit more or use marina fuel. I still have mine.
kdoubleu posted 10-20-2013 03:46 AM ET (US)
Read the Pate Tank white paper by ratherwhaling... very informative.
Rob Schmidt is the authority on Pate Tanks...
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/onDeckFuelTank.html
Mambo Minnow posted 10-20-2013 03:13 PM ET (US)
Ethanol introduction put Pate out of business.
Marsh posted 10-21-2013 02:14 PM ET (US)
I ran with a Pate tank for several years, but with the increased presence of E10 in pumps everywhere, I pulled mine out and gave it to Biggie. We have gas pumps here which claim to be ethanol free, but I didn't want to rely on their representations, nor on what would be in their pumps next time I needed fuel.
Running a big red plastic tank now...forget the name, but it's 24 gallons or so. that's an entire season's fuel for me, ha ha. I would readily revert to the OEM 6 gallon tanks, except that I gave one away to a man in need in Katrina's aftermath, and have been unable to replace it. I imagine somebody somewhere sells them, but know not who.
Dave Sutton posted 10-21-2013 02:17 PM ET (US)
Do as I did and find someone who races cars and buys race fuel. They will love it as a track-tank for moving fuel. My old one is happy with a fellow Porsche racer who installed it into his race trailer. No sense scrapping them just because we can't use them.

Dave
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L H G posted 10-21-2013 04:27 PM ET (US)
The re-emergence of pure 90-93 Octane unleaded fuel, containing no alcohol, makes a Ppate tank useable in certain areas of the country. In the two places where I do a lot of boating, SE FLorida (an evidently on the West Coast also), and the northern half of Wisconsin, non-ethanol gasoline is readily available, at both marinas and conventional gas stations, making a Pate tank completely useable. I is priced as premium unleaded.
Montauk owners in those areas could once again make good use of a Pate tank, being careful not to put any ethanol in it.

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Author	Topic: 24Gal Classic Pate fuel tank
Smallfrye	posted 05-08-2013 02:16 PM ET (US) I found a classic Pate 24 gal fiberglass fuel tank in back of the garage. If anyone is interested, let me know what you wan to pay? Shipping will not be cheap, so calculate it from ZIP 78759 and make me any fair offer. Photo is available if you drop me a PM. Jim
wezie	posted 05-08-2013 07:05 PM ET (US) Unless you can supply real fuel and not garbage gas with alcohol, that tank is a liability. The alcohol breaks down the fiberglass and it clogs and ruins your engine. It is worthless without real non alcohol gas. Sorry
EJO	posted 05-09-2013 10:16 AM ET (US) Jim can you give overall size and weight?
Smallfrye	posted 05-09-2013 02:18 PM ET (US) 19" wide , 30" long and 15" tall with handels extened to max height. Weight is approx 25# This is all without a box, so plan for a little more.
ratherwhalering	posted 05-09-2013 04:09 PM ET (US) Jim what is the manufacture date? Pate produced tanks that were ethonol resistant in the twilight of their day.
Smallfrye	posted 05-10-2013 09:57 AM ET (US) I can not find a manufacture date but there are reminants of a label warning against the use of Methanol. BTW: this is actually a 27 gal tank, not 24.
frontier	posted 05-10-2013 11:31 AM ET (US) I bought a used Montauk a few years ago with a beautiful 24 gallon Pate fiberglass tank. I had to take it to the dump - too much of a gamble of engine damage to use it. We can blame it all on Ethanol,the 'politicians gas". It can ruin fiberglass and some rubber compounds. The production of Ethanol takes much needed food out of the system, and our cars and trucks get worse mileage using it.
Russ 13	posted 05-13-2013 11:16 AM ET (US) Amen to that last post. More cost to the consumer, for a diluted product! I had a fiberglass tank "melt" from ethanol, I would not use one, with today's fuel.
Tohsgib	posted 05-13-2013 12:07 PM ET (US) We have plenty of gas stations around here that sell ethanol free gas at the pump. Costs about $.20 more than super and is 90 octane. Get the Pate and pay a bit more or use marina fuel. I still have mine.
kdoubleu	posted 10-20-2013 03:46 AM ET (US) Read the Pate Tank white paper by ratherwhaling... very informative. Rob Schmidt is the authority on Pate Tanks... http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/onDeckFuelTank.html
Mambo Minnow	posted 10-20-2013 03:13 PM ET (US) Ethanol introduction put Pate out of business.
Marsh	posted 10-21-2013 02:14 PM ET (US) I ran with a Pate tank for several years, but with the increased presence of E10 in pumps everywhere, I pulled mine out and gave it to Biggie. We have gas pumps here which claim to be ethanol free, but I didn't want to rely on their representations, nor on what would be in their pumps next time I needed fuel. Running a big red plastic tank now...forget the name, but it's 24 gallons or so. that's an entire season's fuel for me, ha ha. I would readily revert to the OEM 6 gallon tanks, except that I gave one away to a man in need in Katrina's aftermath, and have been unable to replace it. I imagine somebody somewhere sells them, but know not who.
Dave Sutton	posted 10-21-2013 02:17 PM ET (US) Do as I did and find someone who races cars and buys race fuel. They will love it as a track-tank for moving fuel. My old one is happy with a fellow Porsche racer who installed it into his race trailer. No sense scrapping them just because we can't use them. Dave .
L H G	posted 10-21-2013 04:27 PM ET (US) The re-emergence of pure 90-93 Octane unleaded fuel, containing no alcohol, makes a Ppate tank useable in certain areas of the country. In the two places where I do a lot of boating, SE FLorida (an evidently on the West Coast also), and the northern half of Wisconsin, non-ethanol gasoline is readily available, at both marinas and conventional gas stations, making a Pate tank completely useable. I is priced as premium unleaded. Montauk owners in those areas could once again make good use of a Pate tank, being careful not to put any ethanol in it.