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hankdonovan posted 03-25-2014 06:58 AM ET (US)
I previously posted my 1987 Outrage 18 for sale, and an interested buyer wants the vessel surveyed. I live in the vicinity of Cleveland, OH, and hope that readers of this post can recommend a qualified person in my neighborhood to undertake this work for a reasonable fee.
contender posted 03-25-2014 10:45 AM ET (US)
Hank, if you know the (your boat) boat is sound have the buyer pay the price of the survey and let him/her find the person (make sure he/her is a certified marine survey person), Then take it off the sell amount. You are selling your boat, summer is coming do not be jumping through hoops for the tire kickers...
kwik_wurk posted 03-25-2014 11:06 AM ET (US)
Buyer pays for surveyor and haulout if warranted in a buyer/seller situation like this. (Ask any broker or surveyor, this will be 99% the case. The only times owner pays for a surveyor is for insurance or to prep the boat for sale.) -- I have never heard of a seller paying the surveyor. Especially on a small boat like an 18. I would add the cost to the sell price. -- I think your buyer is a a little green, and just reading from a website "things to do when you buy your first boat".
hankdonovan posted 03-25-2014 09:03 PM ET (US)
Thank you very kindly for your sound counsel.
K Albus posted 03-26-2014 07:40 AM ET (US)
Call Steve Carlson at South Shore Marine in Huron, OH - (419) 433-5798. He's a salesman there, and a very nice guy. I'm sure he can give you some numbers for a surveyor to pass along to your buyer.
Dave Sutton posted 03-27-2014 10:39 AM ET (US)
Nobody has a credentialed surveyor look at an 18 foot boat.
Surveyors are hired when you are looking in detail at a complex boat and a formal survey done by a fully credentialed professional is generally required to secure financing and insurance at that level.
For a small boat, having a trusted and knowlagable friend look it over is generally the rule if you're not competent enough to do it yourself. I do this zseveral times a year for people, and have done it on large boats as a "pre-surveyor" snapshot look-see to let a buyer know the general condition before they hire a real surveyor and pay for it.
These costs and arrangements are ALWAYS at the expense of the buyer. It's business as usual and is done after a deposit is paid to the seller and a contract is sigbned "pending survey" when you're dealing with a big boat, and it's an eye-roller and a red flag of incompetence when someone wants to do it to a trailer-boat.
Sounds like a green buyer. Anyone buying an 18 foot outboard skiff ought to be able to look it over themselves and make up their own mind.

Dave
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Author	Topic: Help me locate a reputable hull surveyor
hankdonovan	posted 03-25-2014 06:58 AM ET (US) I previously posted my 1987 Outrage 18 for sale, and an interested buyer wants the vessel surveyed. I live in the vicinity of Cleveland, OH, and hope that readers of this post can recommend a qualified person in my neighborhood to undertake this work for a reasonable fee.
contender	posted 03-25-2014 10:45 AM ET (US) Hank, if you know the (your boat) boat is sound have the buyer pay the price of the survey and let him/her find the person (make sure he/her is a certified marine survey person), Then take it off the sell amount. You are selling your boat, summer is coming do not be jumping through hoops for the tire kickers...
kwik_wurk	posted 03-25-2014 11:06 AM ET (US) Buyer pays for surveyor and haulout if warranted in a buyer/seller situation like this. (Ask any broker or surveyor, this will be 99% the case. The only times owner pays for a surveyor is for insurance or to prep the boat for sale.) -- I have never heard of a seller paying the surveyor. Especially on a small boat like an 18. I would add the cost to the sell price. -- I think your buyer is a a little green, and just reading from a website "things to do when you buy your first boat".
hankdonovan	posted 03-25-2014 09:03 PM ET (US) Thank you very kindly for your sound counsel.
K Albus	posted 03-26-2014 07:40 AM ET (US) Call Steve Carlson at South Shore Marine in Huron, OH - (419) 433-5798. He's a salesman there, and a very nice guy. I'm sure he can give you some numbers for a surveyor to pass along to your buyer.
Dave Sutton	posted 03-27-2014 10:39 AM ET (US) Nobody has a credentialed surveyor look at an 18 foot boat. Surveyors are hired when you are looking in detail at a complex boat and a formal survey done by a fully credentialed professional is generally required to secure financing and insurance at that level. For a small boat, having a trusted and knowlagable friend look it over is generally the rule if you're not competent enough to do it yourself. I do this zseveral times a year for people, and have done it on large boats as a "pre-surveyor" snapshot look-see to let a buyer know the general condition before they hire a real surveyor and pay for it. These costs and arrangements are ALWAYS at the expense of the buyer. It's business as usual and is done after a deposit is paid to the seller and a contract is sigbned "pending survey" when you're dealing with a big boat, and it's an eye-roller and a red flag of incompetence when someone wants to do it to a trailer-boat. Sounds like a green buyer. Anyone buying an 18 foot outboard skiff ought to be able to look it over themselves and make up their own mind. Dave .