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RocketMan posted 07-28-2014 06:29 AM ET (US)
This is a longshot, I know, but anybody ever tried this? For example, Tripatra Marine in Jakarta is selling (if you're not already laughing too hard) the venerable 2-stroke 90 h.p. Yamaha with listed price under $4K and shipping a little over $500. Can't imagine this is viable. And even if the dealer is reputable the U.S. isn't going to let them just send me a new motor that is no longer legal to sell here.
Jefecinco posted 07-28-2014 09:35 AM ET (US)
Check with the agency formerly know as US Customs. The engine could conceivably be considered a replacement part for a boat of the pre-regulatory era just like a replacement engine for an old Jeep. Import duties may also apply. I also imagine one could import an old boat with engine which would probably be exempt from emission regulations.
I say this because I returned from a tour in Europe with an old Mercedes Benz 230SL which was a European Specifications car. It cleared customs without difficulty.
Another, possibly better, source of information could be one of the many freight forwarders located at the major ports of entry.
Butch
Binkster posted 07-28-2014 03:50 PM ET (US)
Here is their website;
http://tripatramarine.com/about.php
Their prices are great. I think some of their outboards are used. Didn't see any new 4 strokes listed.
A new 50hp Suzuki 4 stroke is $2551 or something like that. Local pickup is allowed too. Can I drive there.
Binkster posted 07-28-2014 03:52 PM ET (US)
(Didn't see any new 4 strokes listed)
should read (any 2 strokes)
contender posted 07-28-2014 04:47 PM ET (US)
I can get the yamaha 90 2 stroke with controls in a box for $5900 in the islands, just priced one yesterday.
evogroup posted 08-13-2014 12:22 PM ET (US)
This place is a total scam.
Prices way too good.
Pictures of their engines are just pulled from the internet.
EJO posted 08-14-2014 11:28 AM ET (US)
of course they pulled pictures from the internet, they are in a "third-world" country with thousands of islands and not much hi-tech web coding personnel available.
Find somebody that dealt with them or buy one in the "Islands" as stated above.
Might be a good vacation trip, pick a good day, race over with the old motor, change out for a new motor, and forego taxes, and race back faster to the mainland.
martyn1075 posted 08-14-2014 03:18 PM ET (US)
With gaining better gas milage as well.
kwik_wurk posted 08-14-2014 04:32 PM ET (US)
Buying yachts offshore in international waters is a trick used in avoiding taxes. -- Not sure if it is worth the effort on an outboard.
Dave Sutton posted 08-17-2014 01:52 PM ET (US)
^^ Not really. Nation of Documentation drives taxes. Bahamas and Grand Cayman are classic flags of convenience for superyachts.
On a similar note though I went thru the purchase process for transfer of ownership of a $30 million dollar executive jet (as it's pilot), and we flew from Florida to Delaware to make a landing and then flew to California to deliver it to it's new owner. The landing in Delaware was to document that the jet was there for it's transer from one Delaware corporation to another. We did a touch and go, meaning that we were on the ground for about, oh... ten seconds.
For the engines, buying overseas gives you access to models that are desirable here, but that the nanny-state has put off limits. Specifically the classic Yamaha 2 stroke 90 that is likely the best balanced engine ever to be put on a Montauk. Can't buy 'em here, but run 50 miles over to The Bahamas and bring your money.

Dave
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Binkster posted 08-24-2014 09:55 AM ET (US)
Here is their website.

http://blueoceansmarine.com/
rich
RevengeFamily posted 08-25-2014 06:59 AM ET (US)
I just looked at http://blueoceansmarine.com/ web site...
A pair of 2007 Suzuki 300hp four strokes for $15,000.00 and free shipping...
From Indonesia?
Would love a new pair for my 280 Conquest, But I'm not sure if I would trust such an expensive purchase from such a distance... My gut tells me there are too many ways this purchase could go wrong...
Norm
EJO posted 08-25-2014 11:46 AM ET (US)
Norm you could contact your local State's office whom quite often have some expats in the far east to drum up business for the State. These offices are glad to check out local business in order to figure if they are legit and they will also help you with the forwarding/import process. For that much of a savings it might be advantageous to check it out or even their (Indonesion) national government gives help.

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Author	Topic: Offshore Outboard Motor Sales
RocketMan	posted 07-28-2014 06:29 AM ET (US) This is a longshot, I know, but anybody ever tried this? For example, Tripatra Marine in Jakarta is selling (if you're not already laughing too hard) the venerable 2-stroke 90 h.p. Yamaha with listed price under $4K and shipping a little over $500. Can't imagine this is viable. And even if the dealer is reputable the U.S. isn't going to let them just send me a new motor that is no longer legal to sell here.
Jefecinco	posted 07-28-2014 09:35 AM ET (US) Check with the agency formerly know as US Customs. The engine could conceivably be considered a replacement part for a boat of the pre-regulatory era just like a replacement engine for an old Jeep. Import duties may also apply. I also imagine one could import an old boat with engine which would probably be exempt from emission regulations. I say this because I returned from a tour in Europe with an old Mercedes Benz 230SL which was a European Specifications car. It cleared customs without difficulty. Another, possibly better, source of information could be one of the many freight forwarders located at the major ports of entry. Butch
Binkster	posted 07-28-2014 03:50 PM ET (US) Here is their website; http://tripatramarine.com/about.php Their prices are great. I think some of their outboards are used. Didn't see any new 4 strokes listed. A new 50hp Suzuki 4 stroke is $2551 or something like that. Local pickup is allowed too. Can I drive there.
Binkster	posted 07-28-2014 03:52 PM ET (US) (Didn't see any new 4 strokes listed) should read (any 2 strokes)
contender	posted 07-28-2014 04:47 PM ET (US) I can get the yamaha 90 2 stroke with controls in a box for $5900 in the islands, just priced one yesterday.
evogroup	posted 08-13-2014 12:22 PM ET (US) This place is a total scam. Prices way too good. Pictures of their engines are just pulled from the internet.
EJO	posted 08-14-2014 11:28 AM ET (US) of course they pulled pictures from the internet, they are in a "third-world" country with thousands of islands and not much hi-tech web coding personnel available. Find somebody that dealt with them or buy one in the "Islands" as stated above. Might be a good vacation trip, pick a good day, race over with the old motor, change out for a new motor, and forego taxes, and race back faster to the mainland.
martyn1075	posted 08-14-2014 03:18 PM ET (US) With gaining better gas milage as well.
kwik_wurk	posted 08-14-2014 04:32 PM ET (US) Buying yachts offshore in international waters is a trick used in avoiding taxes. -- Not sure if it is worth the effort on an outboard.
Dave Sutton	posted 08-17-2014 01:52 PM ET (US) ^^ Not really. Nation of Documentation drives taxes. Bahamas and Grand Cayman are classic flags of convenience for superyachts. On a similar note though I went thru the purchase process for transfer of ownership of a $30 million dollar executive jet (as it's pilot), and we flew from Florida to Delaware to make a landing and then flew to California to deliver it to it's new owner. The landing in Delaware was to document that the jet was there for it's transer from one Delaware corporation to another. We did a touch and go, meaning that we were on the ground for about, oh... ten seconds. For the engines, buying overseas gives you access to models that are desirable here, but that the nanny-state has put off limits. Specifically the classic Yamaha 2 stroke 90 that is likely the best balanced engine ever to be put on a Montauk. Can't buy 'em here, but run 50 miles over to The Bahamas and bring your money. Dave .
Binkster	posted 08-24-2014 09:55 AM ET (US) Here is their website. http://blueoceansmarine.com/ rich
RevengeFamily	posted 08-25-2014 06:59 AM ET (US) I just looked at http://blueoceansmarine.com/ web site... A pair of 2007 Suzuki 300hp four strokes for $15,000.00 and free shipping... From Indonesia? Would love a new pair for my 280 Conquest, But I'm not sure if I would trust such an expensive purchase from such a distance... My gut tells me there are too many ways this purchase could go wrong... Norm
EJO	posted 08-25-2014 11:46 AM ET (US) Norm you could contact your local State's office whom quite often have some expats in the far east to drum up business for the State. These offices are glad to check out local business in order to figure if they are legit and they will also help you with the forwarding/import process. For that much of a savings it might be advantageous to check it out or even their (Indonesion) national government gives help.