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Bruce Boehle posted 02-19-2000 06:35 PM ET (US)
First, Thanks for the new forum. Yes, there is room for a better forum.
I am building a new console for my 72 Nauset and I am considering a permanent tank within the console(20 gallon or so). Does anyone have any experiences with this? I realize I would have to add a blower and vents. I carry 15 gallons(in console) now and it never seems to be enough fuel. Will the extra five gallons effect trim? I run a 90HP Yamaha with a 5hp kicker. The battery, bilge, etc. is all located in a custom mahogany rear seat so they will not be a problem.
Does anyone have a Nauset (or=) with a T-Top mounted over the console? Does it look good?
Any input will be appreciated?
Jim, Let me know if you need a picture of a Nauset.
dfmcintyre posted 02-21-2000 06:10 PM ET (US)
Bruce -
The additional 5 gallons, roughly 35lbs, shouldn't effect trim. The factory Nauset console could handle two 12 gallon tanks. It was a tight fit, but it worked. They were tanks made by Tempo. One way to avoid having to plumb and wire a blower, would be to mount a 24 with the filler tube coming up through the inside shelf of the console, do a 90 and through the side of the console to a stainless steel fuel cap assembly. Make it flush to the console side. Leave the aft portion of the tank exposed, i.e. don't fully enclose it.
You'd have to rig, with some threaded plastic fittings, a setup for fueling, and a vent, maybe on the other side of the console but it would be workable.
What about additional tankage under your seat?
I've never seen a Nauset or Montauk with a T-top. I ended up taking one off an old 21' Outrage I rebuilt, and it was a bad, bad homebuilt design. If your going to do it, take it to someone who has experience in T's. Minimum diameter I'd use would be 1.5", so it would not sway. You might have a problem walking around it easily, as it would add about 2 - 2.5" on an already tight area in the boat.
Best - Don
Bruce Boehle posted 02-21-2000 08:42 PM ET (US)
Thanks Don,
I may just try the open tank design if I can find the tanks. The space under the seat is reserved for my wife's stuff. Can't put gas there.
If anyone has a picture of a Nauset or = with a t-top on it I would love to see it.
Are there plans for post pictures on this site?
Bruce
Clark Roberts posted 02-22-2000 08:41 AM ET (US)
Bruce, the farther forward the more the bounce .... aft is better..... and venting is oh-so important... a blower might be more hazardous than not having one... since there is no sump for the fumes to settle in!
avoid any questionable wiring & open (non-marine) switches.. I would not mount a tank inside a closed area with wiring (12V positive plus some grounds..) co-located! Just a desire I have to stay alive,,, heh, heh... I have had experience with a custom "T" top on a Montauk and it was very unpleasant... the trim (side to side) was upset, especially if any wind at all... and performance , top speed suffered about 5mph... boat had a 90 Evinrude and was an absolute DOG.. before the top was added it was fine... the "T" top transformed , what was a great rig - fun to drive, into a nightmare (no fun). At dockside if a passenger pulled on the top to get balance for entry etc.. the boat could be almost turned over... I'm over dramatizing a little here, but you can tell that I recommend against a "T" top on a 17 Whaler... looks pretty if done right but a sad, sad, performer... well, enough said, as I'm not an expert on anything but have an opinion everything!!!! Happy Whalin',, Clark
Bruce Boehle posted 02-22-2000 09:43 PM ET (US)
Thanks Clark,
Your wisdom is always appreciated. Of course now I'm not sure what is best. I may just have to get a bigger Whaler! I read a book called River Horse about a C-Dory and really liked that boat too. Seemed to be a great cruiser for the rivers which I love to do.
I'll keep you posted!
Bruce
kingfish posted 02-22-2000 10:58 PM ET (US)
Bruce,
Read River Horse, too; and was spell-bound by it. Had my Outrage 22 on the Ohio at Cincinatti this summer (and fall), before I read the book, and ate lunch at the same river-side cafe there William Least-Heat Moon did as he passed through. Hailing from Cincinatti, maybe you have eaten there, too.
I was really hooked on river boating, and hope to do a *lot* more of it.
kingfish

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Author	Topic: Installing gas tank
Bruce Boehle	posted 02-19-2000 06:35 PM ET (US) First, Thanks for the new forum. Yes, there is room for a better forum. I am building a new console for my 72 Nauset and I am considering a permanent tank within the console(20 gallon or so). Does anyone have any experiences with this? I realize I would have to add a blower and vents. I carry 15 gallons(in console) now and it never seems to be enough fuel. Will the extra five gallons effect trim? I run a 90HP Yamaha with a 5hp kicker. The battery, bilge, etc. is all located in a custom mahogany rear seat so they will not be a problem. Does anyone have a Nauset (or=) with a T-Top mounted over the console? Does it look good? Any input will be appreciated? Jim, Let me know if you need a picture of a Nauset.
dfmcintyre	posted 02-21-2000 06:10 PM ET (US) Bruce - The additional 5 gallons, roughly 35lbs, shouldn't effect trim. The factory Nauset console could handle two 12 gallon tanks. It was a tight fit, but it worked. They were tanks made by Tempo. One way to avoid having to plumb and wire a blower, would be to mount a 24 with the filler tube coming up through the inside shelf of the console, do a 90 and through the side of the console to a stainless steel fuel cap assembly. Make it flush to the console side. Leave the aft portion of the tank exposed, i.e. don't fully enclose it. You'd have to rig, with some threaded plastic fittings, a setup for fueling, and a vent, maybe on the other side of the console but it would be workable. What about additional tankage under your seat? I've never seen a Nauset or Montauk with a T-top. I ended up taking one off an old 21' Outrage I rebuilt, and it was a bad, bad homebuilt design. If your going to do it, take it to someone who has experience in T's. Minimum diameter I'd use would be 1.5", so it would not sway. You might have a problem walking around it easily, as it would add about 2 - 2.5" on an already tight area in the boat. Best - Don
Bruce Boehle	posted 02-21-2000 08:42 PM ET (US) Thanks Don, I may just try the open tank design if I can find the tanks. The space under the seat is reserved for my wife's stuff. Can't put gas there. If anyone has a picture of a Nauset or = with a t-top on it I would love to see it. Are there plans for post pictures on this site? Bruce
Clark Roberts	posted 02-22-2000 08:41 AM ET (US) Bruce, the farther forward the more the bounce .... aft is better..... and venting is oh-so important... a blower might be more hazardous than not having one... since there is no sump for the fumes to settle in! avoid any questionable wiring & open (non-marine) switches.. I would not mount a tank inside a closed area with wiring (12V positive plus some grounds..) co-located! Just a desire I have to stay alive,,, heh, heh... I have had experience with a custom "T" top on a Montauk and it was very unpleasant... the trim (side to side) was upset, especially if any wind at all... and performance , top speed suffered about 5mph... boat had a 90 Evinrude and was an absolute DOG.. before the top was added it was fine... the "T" top transformed , what was a great rig - fun to drive, into a nightmare (no fun). At dockside if a passenger pulled on the top to get balance for entry etc.. the boat could be almost turned over... I'm over dramatizing a little here, but you can tell that I recommend against a "T" top on a 17 Whaler... looks pretty if done right but a sad, sad, performer... well, enough said, as I'm not an expert on anything but have an opinion everything!!!! Happy Whalin',, Clark
Bruce Boehle	posted 02-22-2000 09:43 PM ET (US) Thanks Clark, Your wisdom is always appreciated. Of course now I'm not sure what is best. I may just have to get a bigger Whaler! I read a book called River Horse about a C-Dory and really liked that boat too. Seemed to be a great cruiser for the rivers which I love to do. I'll keep you posted! Bruce
kingfish	posted 02-22-2000 10:58 PM ET (US) Bruce, Read River Horse, too; and was spell-bound by it. Had my Outrage 22 on the Ohio at Cincinatti this summer (and fall), before I read the book, and ate lunch at the same river-side cafe there William Least-Heat Moon did as he passed through. Hailing from Cincinatti, maybe you have eaten there, too. I was really hooked on river boating, and hope to do a lot more of it. kingfish