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Cliff posted 04-10-2001 02:29 PM ET (US)
What is the quickest and easiest way to remove the old whaler logo sticker frm my hull without damaging the gelcoat or finish?
Anyone?
Cliff
Whalerdan posted 04-10-2001 02:44 PM ET (US)
Use a blow drier get it warm and peel the sticker off. Use WD40 to clean up any left over sticker residue.
triblet posted 04-10-2001 03:01 PM ET (US)
And a warm day helps, and pull VERRRRY slowly.
Patience counts.
Chuck
Cliff posted 04-10-2001 03:12 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the wisdom.....especially the advice on going slow....it will take a while I realize.
andygere posted 04-10-2001 03:37 PM ET (US)
I would suggest using acetone instead of WD-40 to remove the glue. The WD will leave a residue that will prevent good adhesion of the new decals, and the acetone will not.
witness posted 04-10-2001 03:48 PM ET (US)
I have heard of using oven cleaner. Anyone have any experience with this? I like the idea of acetone, at least the residual volatilizes, unlike the WD-40 or cleaner. Is it as effective?
Chesapeake posted 04-10-2001 08:22 PM ET (US)
Has anyone else noticed this...? After removing the original red decals from a '69 hull, the gelcoat underneath, even after acetone, remained somewhat raised or swelled and slightly whiter than the rest of the hull. If you get very close, you can see and feel the difference.
dfmcintyre posted 04-10-2001 08:34 PM ET (US)
yes, I've notice the same thing. My theory is that the gelcoat, due to sun and weather, very (and I mean _VERY_) slowly evaporates, due to exposure. I'm seeing this happen on a carbon fiber single man rowing shell, that is sitting about 30' from where I'm typing. It's of a design where the carbon fibers are visible in the fiberglass (Kaschper Racing Shells) and since I was too damn cheap to buy a cover, it's beginning to expose a few of the carbon fibers.
This says something about storing indoors or with a full cover, guys...
Don
triblet posted 04-10-2001 09:22 PM ET (US)
The yellowing is probably due to UV. The
area under the decals was protected.
And car/boat wax is slightly abrasive. That
might acount for the raised effect.
Any idea how much work it was to do raised
letters in Photoshop in the early releases?
;-)
Chuck
tbirdsey posted 04-10-2001 09:46 PM ET (US)
I use a single edge razor blade, nice and new and sharp, held almost parallel to the hull. Get a corner started, pull and gently, carefully slide the blade under the decal. Acetone is the thing to use to clean up residue. Just be patient.
whalernut posted 04-10-2001 10:15 PM ET (US)
I agree also Acetone is the shit on gummy sticker stuff-Logo, state sticker/numbers,etc. Regards-Jack Graner.
jimh posted 04-10-2001 10:39 PM ET (US)
Do not underestimate the cleaning ability of WD-40!
I pulled off this big, ugly boat registration number thang and I used all the normal advice--heat gun, razor blade, peel slowly--but it still left a residue. I tried everything to get the residue off: acetone, alcohol, mineral spirits. Finally, in desparation I tried WD-40. SUCCESS!
Then I cleaned up the WD-40 residue, used some rubbing compound, and it is almost impossible to see where the old stickers were. I think it is more a case of the gelcoat underlying it being les faded than the surrounding area.
--jimh
Kim posted 04-10-2001 10:42 PM ET (US)
ya the acetone is the stuff.
don't forget to use water and a squgee (s/p) when you put them back on!

I used a heat gun to get them off. & acetone to remove the sticky.
lhg posted 04-10-2001 11:27 PM ET (US)
For removing all kinds of stickers and decals, I'm with tbirdsey. A sharp razor scraper (the kind with the rounded top) does fine. Often a glue residue is left after the decal comes off. Just wet it down with mineral spirits, and use the scraper again, lightly. The glue turns to a thick jelly, and also scrapes right off.
70_Katama posted 04-11-2001 10:43 AM ET (US)
I used WD-40 and a sharp razor to remove the old stickers from my 70 whaler. The oxidation surrounding the state stickers was very noticable. I washed, compounded, wet sanded, and waxed and it looks great.
Chris J posted 04-11-2001 11:03 AM ET (US)
Oderless paint thinner is a very effective cleaner and does not attack surfaces as much as acetone. Isopropyl alcohol is also good in some cases; sometimes even better than acetone, depending on the goo. I use acetone if nothing else works.
dgp posted 04-11-2001 07:02 PM ET (US)
WD-40, aka "Oral Roberts in a can", is kerosene based, that's why it's such a good goo remover. Don

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Author	Topic: Removing old Whaler logo
Cliff	posted 04-10-2001 02:29 PM ET (US) What is the quickest and easiest way to remove the old whaler logo sticker frm my hull without damaging the gelcoat or finish? Anyone? Cliff
Whalerdan	posted 04-10-2001 02:44 PM ET (US) Use a blow drier get it warm and peel the sticker off. Use WD40 to clean up any left over sticker residue.
triblet	posted 04-10-2001 03:01 PM ET (US) And a warm day helps, and pull VERRRRY slowly. Patience counts. Chuck
Cliff	posted 04-10-2001 03:12 PM ET (US) Thanks for the wisdom.....especially the advice on going slow....it will take a while I realize.
andygere	posted 04-10-2001 03:37 PM ET (US) I would suggest using acetone instead of WD-40 to remove the glue. The WD will leave a residue that will prevent good adhesion of the new decals, and the acetone will not.
witness	posted 04-10-2001 03:48 PM ET (US) I have heard of using oven cleaner. Anyone have any experience with this? I like the idea of acetone, at least the residual volatilizes, unlike the WD-40 or cleaner. Is it as effective?
Chesapeake	posted 04-10-2001 08:22 PM ET (US) Has anyone else noticed this...? After removing the original red decals from a '69 hull, the gelcoat underneath, even after acetone, remained somewhat raised or swelled and slightly whiter than the rest of the hull. If you get very close, you can see and feel the difference.
dfmcintyre	posted 04-10-2001 08:34 PM ET (US) yes, I've notice the same thing. My theory is that the gelcoat, due to sun and weather, very (and I mean _VERY_) slowly evaporates, due to exposure. I'm seeing this happen on a carbon fiber single man rowing shell, that is sitting about 30' from where I'm typing. It's of a design where the carbon fibers are visible in the fiberglass (Kaschper Racing Shells) and since I was too damn cheap to buy a cover, it's beginning to expose a few of the carbon fibers. This says something about storing indoors or with a full cover, guys... Don
triblet	posted 04-10-2001 09:22 PM ET (US) The yellowing is probably due to UV. The area under the decals was protected. And car/boat wax is slightly abrasive. That might acount for the raised effect. Any idea how much work it was to do raised letters in Photoshop in the early releases? ;-) Chuck
tbirdsey	posted 04-10-2001 09:46 PM ET (US) I use a single edge razor blade, nice and new and sharp, held almost parallel to the hull. Get a corner started, pull and gently, carefully slide the blade under the decal. Acetone is the thing to use to clean up residue. Just be patient.
whalernut	posted 04-10-2001 10:15 PM ET (US) I agree also Acetone is the shit on gummy sticker stuff-Logo, state sticker/numbers,etc. Regards-Jack Graner.
jimh	posted 04-10-2001 10:39 PM ET (US) Do not underestimate the cleaning ability of WD-40! I pulled off this big, ugly boat registration number thang and I used all the normal advice--heat gun, razor blade, peel slowly--but it still left a residue. I tried everything to get the residue off: acetone, alcohol, mineral spirits. Finally, in desparation I tried WD-40. SUCCESS! Then I cleaned up the WD-40 residue, used some rubbing compound, and it is almost impossible to see where the old stickers were. I think it is more a case of the gelcoat underlying it being les faded than the surrounding area. --jimh
Kim	posted 04-10-2001 10:42 PM ET (US) ya the acetone is the stuff. don't forget to use water and a squgee (s/p) when you put them back on! I used a heat gun to get them off. & acetone to remove the sticky.
lhg	posted 04-10-2001 11:27 PM ET (US) For removing all kinds of stickers and decals, I'm with tbirdsey. A sharp razor scraper (the kind with the rounded top) does fine. Often a glue residue is left after the decal comes off. Just wet it down with mineral spirits, and use the scraper again, lightly. The glue turns to a thick jelly, and also scrapes right off.
70_Katama	posted 04-11-2001 10:43 AM ET (US) I used WD-40 and a sharp razor to remove the old stickers from my 70 whaler. The oxidation surrounding the state stickers was very noticable. I washed, compounded, wet sanded, and waxed and it looks great.
Chris J	posted 04-11-2001 11:03 AM ET (US) Oderless paint thinner is a very effective cleaner and does not attack surfaces as much as acetone. Isopropyl alcohol is also good in some cases; sometimes even better than acetone, depending on the goo. I use acetone if nothing else works.
dgp	posted 04-11-2001 07:02 PM ET (US) WD-40, aka "Oral Roberts in a can", is kerosene based, that's why it's such a good goo remover. Don