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tbirdsey posted 08-01-2001 10:10 PM ET (US)
Stumbled across what seems to be a new product called "Rollapal" greasable roller shafts. They are a roller shaft with a grease fitting on the end to get grease between shaft and roller - looks like a good idea. Anyone tried these?
Backlash posted 08-02-2001 10:51 AM ET (US)
Tom,
Haven't tried them, but also thought that they sounded like a good solution...maybe better than the stainless shafts.
Steve
SuburbanBoy posted 08-02-2001 11:42 AM ET (US)
Take a look here:
http://www.rollapal.com/
It does not say what the material is. It should be stainless. Grease will not prevent corrosion on standard carbon steel shafts. They are galvanized, which will wear off. I have not tried them. If they were the same price as stainless, I might give them a shot. I am ready to replace my rollers and shafts with new.
sub
whalerron posted 08-02-2001 01:39 PM ET (US)
Those shafts are zinc-plated steel. Go visit the "history" link on their webpage. This is the same stuff that the typical original roller shaft is made of. I wonder why they don't use stainless. Also, if you look closely at the pictures, it appears that there is only one grease hole under the roller and it is about an inch in from the grease fitting. What good is that? I have written to them to find out if there are other holes. I would want 3 holes or grease fittings on each end of the shaft....
whalerron posted 08-02-2001 05:30 PM ET (US)
I just received this info from the manufacturer:
1) Thank you for your inquiry regarding Rollapal Shafts. There are two holes
25ml in from the end one on either side.
( I bet they meant mm and not ml)
2) No the Rollapal Shafts are not stainless steel. A quality stainless steel
would cost too much money. Our shafts are standard zinc coated steel, and
with proper maintenance we guarantee them for life.
gunnelgrabber posted 08-02-2001 09:33 PM ET (US)
somebody mentioned stainless roller shafts..never seen one advertised anywhere...do you have to make your own??...help?....thanks...lm
reelescape1 posted 08-02-2001 10:26 PM ET (US)
They should have said "more morey" not " too much money"....what it's worth to the user determines what is "too much money"....as we all know, practice, and preach...quality over almost anything!
triblet posted 08-02-2001 11:30 PM ET (US)
For SS keel roller shafts:
[url]http://www.championtrailers.com/jckrlrub.html#roller pins[/url],
about half way down the (long) page.
Chuck
gunnelgrabber posted 08-03-2001 10:25 AM ET (US)
chuck, thanks for the address and for all that good wiring scoop you provide us with. (i copy it all for future reference.)hoping you're getting in some good trips out there in that cool water ....lm
where2 posted 08-03-2001 10:27 AM ET (US)
I buy my SS shafts at a local surplus Boat Supply place for $7-10 each. Check around, someone near you might have them... If not, that URL looked good. $10 for 12" SS
triblet posted 08-03-2001 11:05 AM ET (US)
The Montauk is in the water every weekend,
both days most weekends, conditions
permitting, which is usually the case this
time of year. Pt. Lobos tomorrow.
Chuck
compounder posted 08-03-2001 01:40 PM ET (US)
The shafts in my Stolz rollers appear to be stainless steel. They don't have grease fittings but certainly are easily greasable.
Once yearly I remove, clean, and re-grease them. Easy enough------can't really see the need for fittings.
whalerron posted 08-03-2001 05:47 PM ET (US)
I replaced all of the 5/8" roller shafts on my trailer with 5/8" stainless bolts and I used stainless locknuts on the bolts. I find the bolts easier to work with at regrease time than those danged shaft caps.
- ron
JimU posted 08-06-2001 05:03 PM ET (US)
Here is how I the SS shaft problem. Went to a local stainless steel wholesaler(see yellow pages), bought a twelve foot lenght of 5/8 stainless rod, had them use their chop saw to cut it into proper lengths for rollers on two trailers (one has 12 inch rollers, other has 9 inch rollers). Then I put them on my drill press and drilled 5/32 holes in each end for cotter pins. Put 5/8 SS flat washer between the cotter pins and the roller bracket. Piece of cake, less than $25 for both trailers, total of ten shafts. If you don't have a drill press, go to a local machine shop or find a friend that has one. It's a two minute job per shaft.
JimU posted 08-06-2001 05:05 PM ET (US)
PS make sure you use SS washers and SS cotter pins. You can get them at Lowe's or HOme Cheapo.
JimU posted 08-06-2001 05:07 PM ET (US)
PS again. The cotter pin application is MUCH better than the little end caps.

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Author	Topic: greasable roller shafts
tbirdsey	posted 08-01-2001 10:10 PM ET (US) Stumbled across what seems to be a new product called "Rollapal" greasable roller shafts. They are a roller shaft with a grease fitting on the end to get grease between shaft and roller - looks like a good idea. Anyone tried these?
Backlash	posted 08-02-2001 10:51 AM ET (US) Tom, Haven't tried them, but also thought that they sounded like a good solution...maybe better than the stainless shafts. Steve
SuburbanBoy	posted 08-02-2001 11:42 AM ET (US) Take a look here: http://www.rollapal.com/ It does not say what the material is. It should be stainless. Grease will not prevent corrosion on standard carbon steel shafts. They are galvanized, which will wear off. I have not tried them. If they were the same price as stainless, I might give them a shot. I am ready to replace my rollers and shafts with new. sub
whalerron	posted 08-02-2001 01:39 PM ET (US) Those shafts are zinc-plated steel. Go visit the "history" link on their webpage. This is the same stuff that the typical original roller shaft is made of. I wonder why they don't use stainless. Also, if you look closely at the pictures, it appears that there is only one grease hole under the roller and it is about an inch in from the grease fitting. What good is that? I have written to them to find out if there are other holes. I would want 3 holes or grease fittings on each end of the shaft....
whalerron	posted 08-02-2001 05:30 PM ET (US) I just received this info from the manufacturer: 1) Thank you for your inquiry regarding Rollapal Shafts. There are two holes 25ml in from the end one on either side. ( I bet they meant mm and not ml) 2) No the Rollapal Shafts are not stainless steel. A quality stainless steel would cost too much money. Our shafts are standard zinc coated steel, and with proper maintenance we guarantee them for life.
gunnelgrabber	posted 08-02-2001 09:33 PM ET (US) somebody mentioned stainless roller shafts..never seen one advertised anywhere...do you have to make your own??...help?....thanks...lm
reelescape1	posted 08-02-2001 10:26 PM ET (US) They should have said "more morey" not " too much money"....what it's worth to the user determines what is "too much money"....as we all know, practice, and preach...quality over almost anything!
triblet	posted 08-02-2001 11:30 PM ET (US) For SS keel roller shafts: [url]http://www.championtrailers.com/jckrlrub.html#roller pins[/url], about half way down the (long) page. Chuck
gunnelgrabber	posted 08-03-2001 10:25 AM ET (US) chuck, thanks for the address and for all that good wiring scoop you provide us with. (i copy it all for future reference.)hoping you're getting in some good trips out there in that cool water ....lm
where2	posted 08-03-2001 10:27 AM ET (US) I buy my SS shafts at a local surplus Boat Supply place for $7-10 each. Check around, someone near you might have them... If not, that URL looked good. $10 for 12" SS
triblet	posted 08-03-2001 11:05 AM ET (US) The Montauk is in the water every weekend, both days most weekends, conditions permitting, which is usually the case this time of year. Pt. Lobos tomorrow. Chuck
compounder	posted 08-03-2001 01:40 PM ET (US) The shafts in my Stolz rollers appear to be stainless steel. They don't have grease fittings but certainly are easily greasable. Once yearly I remove, clean, and re-grease them. Easy enough------can't really see the need for fittings.
whalerron	posted 08-03-2001 05:47 PM ET (US) I replaced all of the 5/8" roller shafts on my trailer with 5/8" stainless bolts and I used stainless locknuts on the bolts. I find the bolts easier to work with at regrease time than those danged shaft caps. - ron
JimU	posted 08-06-2001 05:03 PM ET (US) Here is how I the SS shaft problem. Went to a local stainless steel wholesaler(see yellow pages), bought a twelve foot lenght of 5/8 stainless rod, had them use their chop saw to cut it into proper lengths for rollers on two trailers (one has 12 inch rollers, other has 9 inch rollers). Then I put them on my drill press and drilled 5/32 holes in each end for cotter pins. Put 5/8 SS flat washer between the cotter pins and the roller bracket. Piece of cake, less than $25 for both trailers, total of ten shafts. If you don't have a drill press, go to a local machine shop or find a friend that has one. It's a two minute job per shaft.
JimU	posted 08-06-2001 05:05 PM ET (US) PS make sure you use SS washers and SS cotter pins. You can get them at Lowe's or HOme Cheapo.
JimU	posted 08-06-2001 05:07 PM ET (US) PS again. The cotter pin application is MUCH better than the little end caps.