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familyg21 posted 08-09-2001 02:10 PM ET (US)
hello all interested in taking up this job for the winter. i am interested in completely painting the boat from top to bottom and suggestions on type of paint and preperation for this job
thanks a mill
John W posted 08-09-2001 04:29 PM ET (US)
see "How to Paint?" and "Awlgrip??" posts down a little on this board.
tspring posted 08-09-2001 07:35 PM ET (US)
hey frank what is the deal your selling your boat but u want to refinish a whaler in the winter.talk to me tell me whats going on. thanks tom
Sinclair7 posted 08-09-2001 09:18 PM ET (US)
Hello,
I just took on the task of stripping off the old bottom paint. Then doing some gel coat repairs and repainting. I used peel away to remove the old paint, a two part epoxy primer and the West Marine brang bottom opaint. Total coast was about 150 dollars and was a little labor intensive.
Good Luck,
Sinclair7
P.S. Check your e-mail for some pics.
familyg21 posted 08-10-2001 02:24 PM ET (US)
hey t how are you pal believe it or not this is my friends boat similar to mine. he has no computer and asked me to post this for him so i did. this is a classic sight on the web. man the people on this thing really know what they are talking about. as for me i plan to restore it as best as i can hope it looks decent well take care pal e-mail me you have it
God Bless
frank
familyg21 posted 08-11-2001 01:39 PM ET (US)
thanks for the reply all. should i go with the awl grip i heard it is difficult to work with. I DO NOT CARE I SIMPLY WANT THE BEST RESULTS
THANKS A MILL
John W posted 08-13-2001 10:10 AM ET (US)
As previously posted I've rolled & brushed Sterling & Interthane Plus, and I've had a boat professionally sprayed with Awlgrip, and you cannot tell the difference between any of them in terms of final results. The biggest factors are prep & application, not the brand of paint IMO. The Sterling is easier to work with & is my suggestion if you are going to roll & brush it yourself. If you're going to have it sprayed, go with the reccommendation of the painter, or use Awlgrip. Your results will vary based on how well you prep the boat, # of coats, etc., but a pro painter could make your boat look fabulous using any of these paints. The reason I like Sterling over others is ease of use when using the roller & brush method. I would not suggest rolling Awlgrip since this brand does not have specific instructions on how to do this to get good results.
Paint Legend posted 08-22-2001 08:53 PM ET (US)
John W.-
Sorry, but you're wrong. U.S. Paint has plenty of info on brushing and rolling, in fact there is a video available as well. I rolled my little sailboat in "Star and Stripes Blue" and everyone thinks it is sprayed. One thing I will say, not everyone gets the same results regardless of product used.
Regards,
Tom
John W posted 08-23-2001 11:36 AM ET (US)
Tom, this is the first I've heard of roll & brush instructions for Awlgrip, so I guess things have changed. I requested info from U.S. Paint some years ago on rolling Awlgrip and was told it was not reccommended, but obviously that must have changed. My point was not that these paints are all identical, but rather that proper prep & application seems to make a bigger difference in the final outcome than the brand of paint when rolling & brushing a small boat. In any case we've had great results using Sterling (the Montauk we did looked sprayed as well) & I found it was much easier to use than Interthane Plus. I used the Sterling on the reccommendation of the paint expert at a major maina which does spraying of yachts to 80' using Awgrip and others, as he told me it was the easiest to use when using a roller. Since then I've only used Sterling.

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Author	Topic: 13 foot painting and restoration
familyg21	posted 08-09-2001 02:10 PM ET (US) hello all interested in taking up this job for the winter. i am interested in completely painting the boat from top to bottom and suggestions on type of paint and preperation for this job thanks a mill
John W	posted 08-09-2001 04:29 PM ET (US) see "How to Paint?" and "Awlgrip??" posts down a little on this board.
tspring	posted 08-09-2001 07:35 PM ET (US) hey frank what is the deal your selling your boat but u want to refinish a whaler in the winter.talk to me tell me whats going on. thanks tom
Sinclair7	posted 08-09-2001 09:18 PM ET (US) Hello, I just took on the task of stripping off the old bottom paint. Then doing some gel coat repairs and repainting. I used peel away to remove the old paint, a two part epoxy primer and the West Marine brang bottom opaint. Total coast was about 150 dollars and was a little labor intensive. Good Luck, Sinclair7 P.S. Check your e-mail for some pics.
familyg21	posted 08-10-2001 02:24 PM ET (US) hey t how are you pal believe it or not this is my friends boat similar to mine. he has no computer and asked me to post this for him so i did. this is a classic sight on the web. man the people on this thing really know what they are talking about. as for me i plan to restore it as best as i can hope it looks decent well take care pal e-mail me you have it God Bless frank
familyg21	posted 08-11-2001 01:39 PM ET (US) thanks for the reply all. should i go with the awl grip i heard it is difficult to work with. I DO NOT CARE I SIMPLY WANT THE BEST RESULTS THANKS A MILL
John W	posted 08-13-2001 10:10 AM ET (US) As previously posted I've rolled & brushed Sterling & Interthane Plus, and I've had a boat professionally sprayed with Awlgrip, and you cannot tell the difference between any of them in terms of final results. The biggest factors are prep & application, not the brand of paint IMO. The Sterling is easier to work with & is my suggestion if you are going to roll & brush it yourself. If you're going to have it sprayed, go with the reccommendation of the painter, or use Awlgrip. Your results will vary based on how well you prep the boat, # of coats, etc., but a pro painter could make your boat look fabulous using any of these paints. The reason I like Sterling over others is ease of use when using the roller & brush method. I would not suggest rolling Awlgrip since this brand does not have specific instructions on how to do this to get good results.
Paint Legend	posted 08-22-2001 08:53 PM ET (US) John W.- Sorry, but you're wrong. U.S. Paint has plenty of info on brushing and rolling, in fact there is a video available as well. I rolled my little sailboat in "Star and Stripes Blue" and everyone thinks it is sprayed. One thing I will say, not everyone gets the same results regardless of product used. Regards, Tom
John W	posted 08-23-2001 11:36 AM ET (US) Tom, this is the first I've heard of roll & brush instructions for Awlgrip, so I guess things have changed. I requested info from U.S. Paint some years ago on rolling Awlgrip and was told it was not reccommended, but obviously that must have changed. My point was not that these paints are all identical, but rather that proper prep & application seems to make a bigger difference in the final outcome than the brand of paint when rolling & brushing a small boat. In any case we've had great results using Sterling (the Montauk we did looked sprayed as well) & I found it was much easier to use than Interthane Plus. I used the Sterling on the reccommendation of the paint expert at a major maina which does spraying of yachts to 80' using Awgrip and others, as he told me it was the easiest to use when using a roller. Since then I've only used Sterling.