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Ready2Rip posted 05-28-2002 01:23 PM ET (US)
I have to do something about the jerky steering in my '89 Revenge (Yamaha 200) with hydraulic steering, but I'm not sure where to start. The steering is super sloppy - you have to do a lot of turning just to keep it on course, and it feels like it's binding up at certain points. Do I need to bleed the system? Any other advice?
Thanks,
Mike
jimp posted 05-28-2002 05:08 PM ET (US)
Mike -
Can't help you. My 1990 does not do it.
JimP
P.S. Thought I respond with a non-answer because some people get upset when nobody responds!
Ready2Rip posted 05-28-2002 05:19 PM ET (US)
Thanks Jim,
Thought I'd ask the forum before emailing you again directly. So much for Plan B ; )
acseatsri posted 05-28-2002 05:35 PM ET (US)
You're low on fluid and it needs bleeding after the fluid is added
Ready2Rip posted 05-29-2002 12:22 PM ET (US)
The hydraulic fluid tank is topped off. I'll have to figure out how to bleed the system, but it feels like there are some gears binding somewhere. Does anyone know how the wheel connects to the hydraulic mechanism?
lhg posted 05-29-2002 05:49 PM ET (US)
Assuming there is no mechanical failure in either the helm pump or the cylinder, your system needs refilling and bleeding, all done at the same time. Go to Teleflex's website for the simple instructions. You will need their filler hose, a couple of bottles of their hydraulic oil and another person.
If this does not do it, check out the operation of the cylinder. It may need seals, or replacement. The helm pump may have failed also. There is nothing else that could go wrong!
Ready2Rip posted 05-29-2002 07:00 PM ET (US)
Priceless info. Thanks!
DaveW posted 06-05-2002 10:43 PM ET (US)
Hey Ready,
The last guy is right, you need to refill and bleed your system properly. I have a 23 Wlkaround with a Merc 225 and it was like a caddilac where you have to turn the wheel 1/2 foot to get any response. You can do it yourself but the best remedy is to take it to a dealer and have them do it. I know this sounds weenee but they can detect a lot. To address your main question, there are no gears in your steering per se. You will love it when it is fixed but don't delay because unlike a Mechanical (cable) system, if you blow your hydraulic system at sea, you are out of luck and a 200 is too big to hand steer. Don't mess around, get it fixed.
Dave
njwhalerman posted 06-10-2002 08:52 AM ET (US)
Ready, I did the bleeding over the weekend after resding the post. I had a similar problem. I bought the fluid and pump hose all for about $35.00. With aasistance I was able to bleed the system in 1/2 hour. You can get the directions from the Teleflex site and it gives you step by step procedure. No problems at all.
bzbvhc posted 06-10-2002 09:08 AM ET (US)
Is it Hynautic or Teleflex steering? The Hynautic units always seem jerky but should not wander. Teleflex units are smooth..... I just removed a Hynautic unit from my 27 Whaler and replaced it with Teleflex - whole system changed when I removed the SeaDrives and went to outboards. It is yours cheap.....
Ready2Rip posted 06-12-2002 11:19 AM ET (US)
I have the Teleflex Seastar front-mount system. Looks like one or both of my hoses needs replacement, probably both. Are there any tricks to pulling new hoses?

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Author	Topic: Jerky Steering
Ready2Rip	posted 05-28-2002 01:23 PM ET (US) I have to do something about the jerky steering in my '89 Revenge (Yamaha 200) with hydraulic steering, but I'm not sure where to start. The steering is super sloppy - you have to do a lot of turning just to keep it on course, and it feels like it's binding up at certain points. Do I need to bleed the system? Any other advice? Thanks, Mike
jimp	posted 05-28-2002 05:08 PM ET (US) Mike - Can't help you. My 1990 does not do it. JimP P.S. Thought I respond with a non-answer because some people get upset when nobody responds!
Ready2Rip	posted 05-28-2002 05:19 PM ET (US) Thanks Jim, Thought I'd ask the forum before emailing you again directly. So much for Plan B ; )
acseatsri	posted 05-28-2002 05:35 PM ET (US) You're low on fluid and it needs bleeding after the fluid is added
Ready2Rip	posted 05-29-2002 12:22 PM ET (US) The hydraulic fluid tank is topped off. I'll have to figure out how to bleed the system, but it feels like there are some gears binding somewhere. Does anyone know how the wheel connects to the hydraulic mechanism?
lhg	posted 05-29-2002 05:49 PM ET (US) Assuming there is no mechanical failure in either the helm pump or the cylinder, your system needs refilling and bleeding, all done at the same time. Go to Teleflex's website for the simple instructions. You will need their filler hose, a couple of bottles of their hydraulic oil and another person. If this does not do it, check out the operation of the cylinder. It may need seals, or replacement. The helm pump may have failed also. There is nothing else that could go wrong!
Ready2Rip	posted 05-29-2002 07:00 PM ET (US) Priceless info. Thanks!
DaveW	posted 06-05-2002 10:43 PM ET (US) Hey Ready, The last guy is right, you need to refill and bleed your system properly. I have a 23 Wlkaround with a Merc 225 and it was like a caddilac where you have to turn the wheel 1/2 foot to get any response. You can do it yourself but the best remedy is to take it to a dealer and have them do it. I know this sounds weenee but they can detect a lot. To address your main question, there are no gears in your steering per se. You will love it when it is fixed but don't delay because unlike a Mechanical (cable) system, if you blow your hydraulic system at sea, you are out of luck and a 200 is too big to hand steer. Don't mess around, get it fixed. Dave
njwhalerman	posted 06-10-2002 08:52 AM ET (US) Ready, I did the bleeding over the weekend after resding the post. I had a similar problem. I bought the fluid and pump hose all for about $35.00. With aasistance I was able to bleed the system in 1/2 hour. You can get the directions from the Teleflex site and it gives you step by step procedure. No problems at all.
bzbvhc	posted 06-10-2002 09:08 AM ET (US) Is it Hynautic or Teleflex steering? The Hynautic units always seem jerky but should not wander. Teleflex units are smooth..... I just removed a Hynautic unit from my 27 Whaler and replaced it with Teleflex - whole system changed when I removed the SeaDrives and went to outboards. It is yours cheap.....
Ready2Rip	posted 06-12-2002 11:19 AM ET (US) I have the Teleflex Seastar front-mount system. Looks like one or both of my hoses needs replacement, probably both. Are there any tricks to pulling new hoses?