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boneyard posted 06-21-2002 09:50 AM ET (US)
I'm restoring a 68' 13' classic I bought that had all the original wood missing. I have reference for original configuration but am having some difficulty locating the correct wood for this without spending more than she's worth. Any Help?
JBCornwell posted 06-21-2002 10:21 AM ET (US)
Howdy, Boneyard.
I got enough Honduras mahogany to replace everything but the for'd thwart, which I left out from a woodworking hobbyist supplier.
Mine was a 1975 13S that had lost all wood except the console. I had a Striper seat mounted up front and left off the For'd thwart for fishing room. I also made a mahogany troller mount pad for the bow.
It was less than $100 in 1995.
Today I would go to Ebay and look at both teak and mahogany.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
Bigshot posted 06-21-2002 11:20 AM ET (US)
I did 5/4 pine and used a mohagany stain on a 12' aluminum boat. looked great and cost like $70 so I can't see much more for a 13'. E-Bay a guy sells thwarts for about $80 each.
Gep posted 06-21-2002 01:40 PM ET (US)
I went to a lumber yard and bought 5/4 Honduras Mahogany. Cost = $150.00.
I didn't have to remake the console, but I could out of the wood I have left.
Mike
Taylor posted 06-21-2002 02:39 PM ET (US)
Look through here for some of Tom W Clark's comments on mahogany, there are apparently several different varieties.
What you need to find is a lumberyard goes beyond 2x and plywood. Here is Seattle there are several, Crosscut Hardwoods and Compton Lumber to name two.
Crosscut has Honduran Mahogany at $7.30 a board foot and African Mahogany at $5.90 a board foot. They say the Aferican has a little nicer ribboning pattern. They have 5/4 in stock, both types. That should give you a ballpark price to shoot at.
My experience with wood from Crosscut is that the wood is usually S2S (surfaced two sides) and you loose some when you go to straighten up the other two edges, so allow extra. I have a little planer, and I usually take a little thinkness, both because the wood is always above its target measurement (the 5/4 is likely to be over 1" net) and because I get a little better finish. If you don't own a planer, you might be able to find a millwork to do it for you, or a buddy with a little planer.
BillVT posted 06-24-2002 06:56 PM ET (US)
I may have some original 13 wood for sale reasonably, depending on if I can trade for a 15 top I'm seeking. See this thread. I'll let you know.
BillVT posted 06-24-2002 06:56 PM ET (US)
Which posts, you say? This one: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002016.html
AnthonyT posted 06-24-2002 08:14 PM ET (US)
This may sound alarmist but I just wanted to give the forum a heads up. Even though a vendor is offering several species of mohagany, each one is unique and not just in looks. Besides its look, what make Hondoras mohagany special in saltwater is its extremely low rate of expansion when presented with moisture. Why is this important:
- Joints will not crack due to expansion.
- Finish will last longer also....
- Boards will not cup as much, therefore larger widths can be used.
it can be argued that a finish is meant to protect wood from moisture, but eventually it will allow moisture in. When it does, a low expansion wood like Hondoras won't split the finish off as much as a normal wood...
Check the coeffiient of expansion of the wood that you are considering. It may not be as much of a bargain as you thought.
Regards,
AnthonyT

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Author	Topic: 13 classic wood replacement
boneyard	posted 06-21-2002 09:50 AM ET (US) I'm restoring a 68' 13' classic I bought that had all the original wood missing. I have reference for original configuration but am having some difficulty locating the correct wood for this without spending more than she's worth. Any Help?
JBCornwell	posted 06-21-2002 10:21 AM ET (US) Howdy, Boneyard. I got enough Honduras mahogany to replace everything but the for'd thwart, which I left out from a woodworking hobbyist supplier. Mine was a 1975 13S that had lost all wood except the console. I had a Striper seat mounted up front and left off the For'd thwart for fishing room. I also made a mahogany troller mount pad for the bow. It was less than $100 in 1995. Today I would go to Ebay and look at both teak and mahogany. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
Bigshot	posted 06-21-2002 11:20 AM ET (US) I did 5/4 pine and used a mohagany stain on a 12' aluminum boat. looked great and cost like $70 so I can't see much more for a 13'. E-Bay a guy sells thwarts for about $80 each.
Gep	posted 06-21-2002 01:40 PM ET (US) I went to a lumber yard and bought 5/4 Honduras Mahogany. Cost = $150.00. I didn't have to remake the console, but I could out of the wood I have left. Mike
Taylor	posted 06-21-2002 02:39 PM ET (US) Look through here for some of Tom W Clark's comments on mahogany, there are apparently several different varieties. What you need to find is a lumberyard goes beyond 2x and plywood. Here is Seattle there are several, Crosscut Hardwoods and Compton Lumber to name two. Crosscut has Honduran Mahogany at $7.30 a board foot and African Mahogany at $5.90 a board foot. They say the Aferican has a little nicer ribboning pattern. They have 5/4 in stock, both types. That should give you a ballpark price to shoot at. My experience with wood from Crosscut is that the wood is usually S2S (surfaced two sides) and you loose some when you go to straighten up the other two edges, so allow extra. I have a little planer, and I usually take a little thinkness, both because the wood is always above its target measurement (the 5/4 is likely to be over 1" net) and because I get a little better finish. If you don't own a planer, you might be able to find a millwork to do it for you, or a buddy with a little planer.
BillVT	posted 06-24-2002 06:56 PM ET (US) I may have some original 13 wood for sale reasonably, depending on if I can trade for a 15 top I'm seeking. See this thread. I'll let you know.
BillVT	posted 06-24-2002 06:56 PM ET (US) Which posts, you say? This one: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002016.html
AnthonyT	posted 06-24-2002 08:14 PM ET (US) This may sound alarmist but I just wanted to give the forum a heads up. Even though a vendor is offering several species of mohagany, each one is unique and not just in looks. Besides its look, what make Hondoras mohagany special in saltwater is its extremely low rate of expansion when presented with moisture. Why is this important: - Joints will not crack due to expansion. - Finish will last longer also.... - Boards will not cup as much, therefore larger widths can be used. it can be argued that a finish is meant to protect wood from moisture, but eventually it will allow moisture in. When it does, a low expansion wood like Hondoras won't split the finish off as much as a normal wood... Check the coeffiient of expansion of the wood that you are considering. It may not be as much of a bargain as you thought. Regards, AnthonyT