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thistle posted 06-28-2002 03:26 AM ET (US)
Okay. I am entertaining the idea of buying a late 60's 17' Whaler from a friend. He bought it a few years ago with visions of grandeur and watched TV instead. Now it is my turn at the whole visions of... thing.
I have looked at a number of photos trying to determine how I want to finish this boat. In the process, I have realized that this may not actually be a Montauk. The boat has a mahogany/mahogany plywood center console with the mahogany/glass windscreen. The seat is mahogany but tilts for and aft like the new ones. In the front are painted stringers that appear to be made of contoured 2x material. They are white so I cannot tell if it is mahogany or pine 2x4s crafted to fit flush with the interior lip that the rails mount to. The floor boards are gone. I suspected that it was a hilljack approach to a fishing platform. Having seen several other boats with similar setups it appears that the hilljack may be I. I am told that this boat is a mid 70's but my internet travels lean me toward the 60's. The boat has a Chrysler 90 on it. The hull number is in the 14K range and is stencilled on the inside of the blue transom in white gelcoat. The boat has suffered some serious oxidation on the interior and the gelcoat has some crazing and checking. The console should be replaced or completely rebuilt. The windscreen appears in new condition(it was hidden in the attic of the original owners widow). What do I have here? And, what parts sound like original equipment? Does the Chrysler 90 date the boat or tell us anything? Thank you. If feasible I'd like to see this boat go original in all regards. I would be happy to post or email photos.
JBCornwell posted 06-28-2002 07:51 AM ET (US)
Howdy, Thistle.
Your description sounds like a Sakonnet with the mounting frame for the for'd casting deck, but the deck is missing.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
Hobie1981 posted 06-28-2002 08:43 AM ET (US)
T: JB should be right on the money. If you go to the reference section on this websight, you should be able to figure out what year you have. You noted 14k. If for example the entire # was 3A1455, than the boat would be a '70.
There are plenty of folks who can help you out with drawings etc, when you rebuild your console. The only thing I have NOT seen on this post, is the window glass gasket material.
Good Luck..
Hobie1981
Cpt Quint posted 06-28-2002 09:36 AM ET (US)
I have a 63. Go to page 53 Cecata section of this website and look at what one perfectly redone looks like.
Bigshot posted 06-28-2002 11:46 AM ET (US)
HARDLY perfect Quint.....your steering wheel and rubrail are wrong vintage:)
I always said if I painted my Montauk, I would love to do the inside blue so it would be retro. I wonder how the white console would look and I bet resale would be disaterous. Looks great Quint.
Tom W Clark posted 06-30-2002 03:54 AM ET (US)
thistle ,
Your boat is a Sakonnet. It had a bow platform made of painted pine originally. The boat is not form the mid 1970's; the last blue hull was made in 1972 but you refer to a hull number being in the 14k range. By this I presume you mean 14000 to14999?
According to the reference section there were no numbers like this. You might want to review that page by clicking here: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/
What, exactly, is the hull number? You can email Chuck Bennett at Boston Whaler with this number and he will tell you everything that he has a record of in regard to this boat, usually date built, dealer it was shipped to and the model it was when it was new.
Hobie1981, the windshield gasket material is (or was, as I have not seen their web site in a while) made by Petro Plastics. See: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000040.html
Another possibility would be to buy the one part vinyl windshield molding from Tom Koroknay at Lyman Boats http://lymanboat.com/shipstore.html
Hobie1981 posted 06-30-2002 05:52 AM ET (US)
Hi Tom: Roger the Lyman Boat vinyl replacement. :-).
Yeah..Petro seems to have disappeared. Unless anyone else has any info on em..Was thinking of sending a letter to Petro at last known address, if returned, would have to assume they went belly up.
Have a great Sunday..
Hobie
crosley95 posted 07-06-2002 12:52 PM ET (US)
hobie,
PETRO is still around. look in the oem area of the site. i just received 20 feet of the white gasket for my '67 sakonnet. charged me $60 delivered. a little steep but the guy knows he's the only game in town.
good luck,
crosley

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Author	Topic: What is it? Montauk? Nauset?
thistle	posted 06-28-2002 03:26 AM ET (US) Okay. I am entertaining the idea of buying a late 60's 17' Whaler from a friend. He bought it a few years ago with visions of grandeur and watched TV instead. Now it is my turn at the whole visions of... thing. I have looked at a number of photos trying to determine how I want to finish this boat. In the process, I have realized that this may not actually be a Montauk. The boat has a mahogany/mahogany plywood center console with the mahogany/glass windscreen. The seat is mahogany but tilts for and aft like the new ones. In the front are painted stringers that appear to be made of contoured 2x material. They are white so I cannot tell if it is mahogany or pine 2x4s crafted to fit flush with the interior lip that the rails mount to. The floor boards are gone. I suspected that it was a hilljack approach to a fishing platform. Having seen several other boats with similar setups it appears that the hilljack may be I. I am told that this boat is a mid 70's but my internet travels lean me toward the 60's. The boat has a Chrysler 90 on it. The hull number is in the 14K range and is stencilled on the inside of the blue transom in white gelcoat. The boat has suffered some serious oxidation on the interior and the gelcoat has some crazing and checking. The console should be replaced or completely rebuilt. The windscreen appears in new condition(it was hidden in the attic of the original owners widow). What do I have here? And, what parts sound like original equipment? Does the Chrysler 90 date the boat or tell us anything? Thank you. If feasible I'd like to see this boat go original in all regards. I would be happy to post or email photos.
JBCornwell	posted 06-28-2002 07:51 AM ET (US) Howdy, Thistle. Your description sounds like a Sakonnet with the mounting frame for the for'd casting deck, but the deck is missing. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
Hobie1981	posted 06-28-2002 08:43 AM ET (US) T: JB should be right on the money. If you go to the reference section on this websight, you should be able to figure out what year you have. You noted 14k. If for example the entire # was 3A1455, than the boat would be a '70. There are plenty of folks who can help you out with drawings etc, when you rebuild your console. The only thing I have NOT seen on this post, is the window glass gasket material. Good Luck.. Hobie1981
Cpt Quint	posted 06-28-2002 09:36 AM ET (US) I have a 63. Go to page 53 Cecata section of this website and look at what one perfectly redone looks like.
Bigshot	posted 06-28-2002 11:46 AM ET (US) HARDLY perfect Quint.....your steering wheel and rubrail are wrong vintage:) I always said if I painted my Montauk, I would love to do the inside blue so it would be retro. I wonder how the white console would look and I bet resale would be disaterous. Looks great Quint.
Tom W Clark	posted 06-30-2002 03:54 AM ET (US) thistle , Your boat is a Sakonnet. It had a bow platform made of painted pine originally. The boat is not form the mid 1970's; the last blue hull was made in 1972 but you refer to a hull number being in the 14k range. By this I presume you mean 14000 to14999? According to the reference section there were no numbers like this. You might want to review that page by clicking here: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/ What, exactly, is the hull number? You can email Chuck Bennett at Boston Whaler with this number and he will tell you everything that he has a record of in regard to this boat, usually date built, dealer it was shipped to and the model it was when it was new. Hobie1981, the windshield gasket material is (or was, as I have not seen their web site in a while) made by Petro Plastics. See: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000040.html Another possibility would be to buy the one part vinyl windshield molding from Tom Koroknay at Lyman Boats http://lymanboat.com/shipstore.html
Hobie1981	posted 06-30-2002 05:52 AM ET (US) Hi Tom: Roger the Lyman Boat vinyl replacement. :-). Yeah..Petro seems to have disappeared. Unless anyone else has any info on em..Was thinking of sending a letter to Petro at last known address, if returned, would have to assume they went belly up. Have a great Sunday.. Hobie
crosley95	posted 07-06-2002 12:52 PM ET (US) hobie, PETRO is still around. look in the oem area of the site. i just received 20 feet of the white gasket for my '67 sakonnet. charged me $60 delivered. a little steep but the guy knows he's the only game in town. good luck, crosley