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Murphys Law posted 07-08-2002 04:34 PM ET (US)
I went to fill up my 1985 18' Outrage and it took about 15 minutes to put in 10 gallons of fuel into the tank. Everytime a half of a gallon would go in, a quater of it would bubble back out. Has anyone run into this similar problem?
acseatsri posted 07-08-2002 04:44 PM ET (US)
Sounds like your tank vent is clogged.
Tom W Clark posted 07-08-2002 05:31 PM ET (US)
Murphys Law,
Sounds exactly like an Outrage 18 to me. This problem has been discussed before here on the FORUM. While it could well be a clogged vent I suspect it is merely the way you are filling the tank.
I owned a 1983 Outrage 18 and had exactly the same problem you describe. I learned that to fill the tank without a mess the nozzle of the gas pump must be inserted from the inside of the boat. By this I mean the curvature of the nozzle must match the curvature of the filler tube.
By doing so the tip of the nozzle will not hang up on the part of the filler that holds the retaining chain for the filler cap and the fuel ill flow much more easily into the tank.
If I held the nozzle from the outside of the tank as I would naturally do if I were standing at a gas station the gas would back up and splatter all over. I could just turn the nozzle 180° but I found it was much easier to just climb in the boat and sit on the RPS while filling.
I always had paper towels around the filler ready for any spillage that might occur. I never relied on the shutoff on the pump itself but rather made my best estimate of how much fuel should go in the tank and then stopped short of that. Nobody likes having gas spill out the vent while driving down the road even if the gas went into the tank without incident. A very full tank and a hot day can cause an overflow from expansion as well.
If you are careful to fully insert the nozzle with it pointed the correct way, go slowly and do not top off then you will be just fine.
tbyrne posted 07-08-2002 05:47 PM ET (US)
Did you fuel up after returning to the dock? If so, try fueling up before you go out for the day. I had an early 80's Outrage that did just what yours does, and did it much worse at the end of a day pounding across the LI Sound.
Good luck!
Murphys Law posted 07-09-2002 01:13 AM ET (US)
Thanks. I have tried placing the gas nozzle in every direction and even holding the nozzle above and slowly pumping gas in. I always fuel up before leaving the dock and it never gets over 60 degrees here, so it looks like I may have a vent problem.
Murphys Law posted 05-25-2003 12:37 AM ET (US)
Just an update on this problem I had.
While I had the boat in for repair to the lower unit, I had the shop take a look at the vent hose. The vent hose had some minor delamination. Well, the hose came out fine but snaking the new hose back in was when the problem started. Apparently there is a support bracket for the fuel tank directly under the center console. The top deck was compressing the vent hose into this support bracket smashing the vent hose closed. So, the shop had to install a new pry-out deck plate above the bracket to allow enough space between the top deck and support bracket. Now the vent hose is completly open. And my first trip to the gas station with the new vent hose was a success. The boat took 50 gallons in a about 2 minutes compared to 30 minutes. Anyway thanks for the responses and suggested solutions.

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Author	Topic: Venting Problem on 18' Outrage
Murphys Law	posted 07-08-2002 04:34 PM ET (US) I went to fill up my 1985 18' Outrage and it took about 15 minutes to put in 10 gallons of fuel into the tank. Everytime a half of a gallon would go in, a quater of it would bubble back out. Has anyone run into this similar problem?
acseatsri	posted 07-08-2002 04:44 PM ET (US) Sounds like your tank vent is clogged.
Tom W Clark	posted 07-08-2002 05:31 PM ET (US) Murphys Law, Sounds exactly like an Outrage 18 to me. This problem has been discussed before here on the FORUM. While it could well be a clogged vent I suspect it is merely the way you are filling the tank. I owned a 1983 Outrage 18 and had exactly the same problem you describe. I learned that to fill the tank without a mess the nozzle of the gas pump must be inserted from the inside of the boat. By this I mean the curvature of the nozzle must match the curvature of the filler tube. By doing so the tip of the nozzle will not hang up on the part of the filler that holds the retaining chain for the filler cap and the fuel ill flow much more easily into the tank. If I held the nozzle from the outside of the tank as I would naturally do if I were standing at a gas station the gas would back up and splatter all over. I could just turn the nozzle 180° but I found it was much easier to just climb in the boat and sit on the RPS while filling. I always had paper towels around the filler ready for any spillage that might occur. I never relied on the shutoff on the pump itself but rather made my best estimate of how much fuel should go in the tank and then stopped short of that. Nobody likes having gas spill out the vent while driving down the road even if the gas went into the tank without incident. A very full tank and a hot day can cause an overflow from expansion as well. If you are careful to fully insert the nozzle with it pointed the correct way, go slowly and do not top off then you will be just fine.
tbyrne	posted 07-08-2002 05:47 PM ET (US) Did you fuel up after returning to the dock? If so, try fueling up before you go out for the day. I had an early 80's Outrage that did just what yours does, and did it much worse at the end of a day pounding across the LI Sound. Good luck!
Murphys Law	posted 07-09-2002 01:13 AM ET (US) Thanks. I have tried placing the gas nozzle in every direction and even holding the nozzle above and slowly pumping gas in. I always fuel up before leaving the dock and it never gets over 60 degrees here, so it looks like I may have a vent problem.
Murphys Law	posted 05-25-2003 12:37 AM ET (US) Just an update on this problem I had. While I had the boat in for repair to the lower unit, I had the shop take a look at the vent hose. The vent hose had some minor delamination. Well, the hose came out fine but snaking the new hose back in was when the problem started. Apparently there is a support bracket for the fuel tank directly under the center console. The top deck was compressing the vent hose into this support bracket smashing the vent hose closed. So, the shop had to install a new pry-out deck plate above the bracket to allow enough space between the top deck and support bracket. Now the vent hose is completly open. And my first trip to the gas station with the new vent hose was a success. The boat took 50 gallons in a about 2 minutes compared to 30 minutes. Anyway thanks for the responses and suggested solutions.