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Lagged posted 07-12-2002 11:20 AM ET (US)
Hello, I have a 1961 13' BW. I have been taking it around places to get fiberglass and paint work done on it. After I bought it back from the painter, one of the bunks slipped (he took them off to paint the trailer). It cracked the back in the two places, where the end of the bunk meets the transom. These are large chips which I repair with Marine Tex and then Immeron paint, but I need to fix the traile. I brought the middle roller up all the way so that it has most of the weight. Is there anything else I should do to it?
Here are some pictures
This is where the boat is when I trailer it:
http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/001.jpg

This is the trailer config (note I have the boat back to work on the repairs, it is really about a foot more on the trailer)
http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/004.jpg
The damage (similar on the other side)
http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/006.jpg
Cpt Quint posted 07-12-2002 02:29 PM ET (US)
It appears that you have things pretty well in control. I would go back to the guy who poorly reassembled your bunks and have a real long heart felt conversation with him.
Lagged posted 07-12-2002 02:42 PM ET (US)
Well, he did spray Immeron for an extremly low cost.
Lagged posted 07-12-2002 04:32 PM ET (US)
Is it ok for the bunks to extend beyond the back of the boat? Would it be better to mvoe it so that they end before they come to the end there? Like if all of the bunk was under the boat and not sticking out at all? I would have to weld a alot of stuff onto the trailer so I don't want to have to do this, but If i do i will.
Jay A posted 07-12-2002 05:11 PM ET (US)
If I were you I would angle the bunk brackets outboard, that would get them away from the skids. It makes loading and un-loading alot easier and will prevent damage. That is what I've done to my 13' 1970 Sport.
WantaWhale posted 07-16-2002 12:29 AM ET (US)
Jay A,
Can you explain what you mean by angle the bunk brackets outboard? Do you mean on the very right and left sides of the boat?
I have been thinking about changing mine over this way and wondering if it would help loading.
Thanks, Fletch
Jay A posted 07-16-2002 05:20 PM ET (US)
WantaWhale: If you look at Lagged's 3rd (006) photo you will see how close the bunk is to the starboard skid.And the bunk and bracket is mounted vertical. Most trailers you can adjust these brackets to angle out away from the port and starboard skids allowing more freedom to load your boat and to avoid having your bunks slamming into the skids. Once angled away, adjust the height of the brackets to bring the boat trim with the trailer. Note: When doing this adjustment,make sure your keel rollers remain in contact with the keel! Otherwise you will have trouble lining up onto the trailer and create too much stress on the bunks and hull!
WantaWhale posted 07-17-2002 12:37 PM ET (US)
Jay A,
Thanks for the reply. Take a look at:
http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/004.jpg
Notice where his bunks are on the left side of his chime. In my whaler manual, they show the bunk (from this point of view) on the right side of the chime, like near the fender. Is this what you mean? Thats what I have been thinking about trying on mine. The manual says the bunks do not need to support any weight, just keep the boat stable. My trailer was new last year and never set up for the boat. I have been playing with adjustments and this is what I may try to do.
tnx, Fletch
Jay A posted 07-17-2002 05:33 PM ET (US)
WantaWhale: You got it! The goal is to have the bunks as wide as possible to "cradle" the hull and to allow the keel to align itself on the rollers. When conditions are the best(how deep the trailer is in the water)the keel rollers will be the only part of the trailer taking up pressure from the hull while the bunks act like "bicycle training wheels" supporting the hulls side to side trim.
WantaWhale posted 07-17-2002 11:36 PM ET (US)
Jay A,
Got it! Thats what I was hoping would work better, but I wasn't sure. Will be my weekend project.
Thanks, Fletch

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Author	Topic: Trailer giving me troubles
Lagged	posted 07-12-2002 11:20 AM ET (US) Hello, I have a 1961 13' BW. I have been taking it around places to get fiberglass and paint work done on it. After I bought it back from the painter, one of the bunks slipped (he took them off to paint the trailer). It cracked the back in the two places, where the end of the bunk meets the transom. These are large chips which I repair with Marine Tex and then Immeron paint, but I need to fix the traile. I brought the middle roller up all the way so that it has most of the weight. Is there anything else I should do to it? Here are some pictures This is where the boat is when I trailer it: http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/001.jpg This is the trailer config (note I have the boat back to work on the repairs, it is really about a foot more on the trailer) http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/004.jpg The damage (similar on the other side) http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/006.jpg
Cpt Quint	posted 07-12-2002 02:29 PM ET (US) It appears that you have things pretty well in control. I would go back to the guy who poorly reassembled your bunks and have a real long heart felt conversation with him.
Lagged	posted 07-12-2002 02:42 PM ET (US) Well, he did spray Immeron for an extremly low cost.
Lagged	posted 07-12-2002 04:32 PM ET (US) Is it ok for the bunks to extend beyond the back of the boat? Would it be better to mvoe it so that they end before they come to the end there? Like if all of the bunk was under the boat and not sticking out at all? I would have to weld a alot of stuff onto the trailer so I don't want to have to do this, but If i do i will.
Jay A	posted 07-12-2002 05:11 PM ET (US) If I were you I would angle the bunk brackets outboard, that would get them away from the skids. It makes loading and un-loading alot easier and will prevent damage. That is what I've done to my 13' 1970 Sport.
WantaWhale	posted 07-16-2002 12:29 AM ET (US) Jay A, Can you explain what you mean by angle the bunk brackets outboard? Do you mean on the very right and left sides of the boat? I have been thinking about changing mine over this way and wondering if it would help loading. Thanks, Fletch
Jay A	posted 07-16-2002 05:20 PM ET (US) WantaWhale: If you look at Lagged's 3rd (006) photo you will see how close the bunk is to the starboard skid.And the bunk and bracket is mounted vertical. Most trailers you can adjust these brackets to angle out away from the port and starboard skids allowing more freedom to load your boat and to avoid having your bunks slamming into the skids. Once angled away, adjust the height of the brackets to bring the boat trim with the trailer. Note: When doing this adjustment,make sure your keel rollers remain in contact with the keel! Otherwise you will have trouble lining up onto the trailer and create too much stress on the bunks and hull!
WantaWhale	posted 07-17-2002 12:37 PM ET (US) Jay A, Thanks for the reply. Take a look at: http://sagz.dynip.com/~lagged/004.jpg Notice where his bunks are on the left side of his chime. In my whaler manual, they show the bunk (from this point of view) on the right side of the chime, like near the fender. Is this what you mean? Thats what I have been thinking about trying on mine. The manual says the bunks do not need to support any weight, just keep the boat stable. My trailer was new last year and never set up for the boat. I have been playing with adjustments and this is what I may try to do. tnx, Fletch
Jay A	posted 07-17-2002 05:33 PM ET (US) WantaWhale: You got it! The goal is to have the bunks as wide as possible to "cradle" the hull and to allow the keel to align itself on the rollers. When conditions are the best(how deep the trailer is in the water)the keel rollers will be the only part of the trailer taking up pressure from the hull while the bunks act like "bicycle training wheels" supporting the hulls side to side trim.
WantaWhale	posted 07-17-2002 11:36 PM ET (US) Jay A, Got it! Thats what I was hoping would work better, but I wasn't sure. Will be my weekend project. Thanks, Fletch