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John O posted 09-21-2002 11:47 PM ET (US)
Any ball park cost on removing two coats of paint and repairing 6 drill holes approx. 3/16" used to dry out a blistered spot on hull. I would like to have a pro restore hull and add a fresh coat of paint as well as fill 6 small drill holes. I live in Ma and plan to get estimates. What has others paid for simular job.
David Jenkins posted 09-22-2002 07:38 AM ET (US)
Are you saying that you have a boat (what size?) that has been painted (the whole boat?) and you want to remove the paint and then re-paint? Or are you saying that you have a boat that has never been painted except in one little spot where someone put on two coats and now you want to remove (?) those two coats so that you can add another coat of paint? I'm sure that your question makes sense to you, but if you really want useful opinions from other Whaler owners, you will need to elaborate a bit more. Cheers!
John O posted 09-22-2002 09:59 AM ET (US)
1988 Newport,( 16'7") Hull is bottom painted w/ two coats. One black one blue. 6 drill holes are on the bottom of the boat which would be the best way for gravity to work in removing minor dampness, essentially I would like to have all paint removed, holes repaired, and any other flaws on the bottom of the 1988 Newport (16'7") hull repaired and bottom painted. \\
Again I am looking for BALL PARK figures. Does this type of work cost 7/ft or 100/ft. I ahve know idea and would like some insight before I accept a qoute.
thanks.
John O posted 09-22-2002 10:05 AM ET (US)
from what i understand this work is quoted by the foot. eX. 17' hull @ $10.00/ft would be $170.00, a 21' @ $10= $210.00, a 23'@ $10= $230.00.
Are BW painted anywhere else other than the bottom?
David Jenkins posted 09-22-2002 11:00 AM ET (US)
Coming from the factory, there was no paint on the bottom of the boat. If you keep your boat in the water, bottom paint is appropriate, but there is no reason to take it all off if you are going to put another coat on. Good bottom paint is over $100 per gallon, so I if you can get someone to do what you want done for $170, I would say go for it. If you are looking to restore the boat to its original condition and want to remove all the paint and then re-gelcoat where necessary, the cost would be ten times that amount. As for filling the holes, there are lots of posts explaining how to do it, if you are so inclined. You might start with this article submitted by our moderator, jimh: http://www.continuouswave.com/maintenance-logs/epoxy
David Ratusnik posted 09-22-2002 05:21 PM ET (US)
Bottom paint job over existing will cost you approx $500 on a 20+ft boat. David
John O posted 09-22-2002 05:54 PM ET (US)
i was obvoiusly using $10/ft as an example. I guess i am slowly getting some info from this post. Do you really estimate removing 2 coats of paint filling six small holes and repainting $1700.00. No one on this site has ever had someone restore the hull of a late 80's 17' . I believe the job is worth under 1000.00 withou gel coating the entire hull.
Anyone have a BALLPARK clue
David Ratusnik posted 09-22-2002 07:04 PM ET (US)
Boils down to $55/60 per hour around my parts. How much you want done? David
John O posted 09-22-2002 07:33 PM ET (US)
makes sense. Thanks
trainer posted 09-22-2002 09:02 PM ET (US)
I had my 15 sport regelcoated inside and out for $800. Add to this 150 for some glass work and the whole thing was under $1000. I did the prep work of removing the bottom paint and paint that a previous owner had painted inside. Regular paint remover (fiberglass safe from Lowes) did well on the inside, but the bottom paint was a job for the random orbital sander. The gel coat has held up well with heavy fishing use since Feb.
David Jenkins posted 09-22-2002 10:11 PM ET (US)
One reason why you are not getting better answers is that it is still not completely clear (to me, anyway) what you are asking. If you are talking about filling some holes and rolling on some bottom paint, I'd say that is about a $500 job (or $150 if you do it yourself). If you are talking about sanding off all of the existing paint and re-gelcoating the entire hull, that is more like a $1500 job (or $400 if you do it yourself). Is that helpful?
John O posted 09-22-2002 10:44 PM ET (US)
Yes and no. I am looking to remove existing bottom paint and reveal any problems that may exist. I bought this boat in may and it has atleast two coats of bottom paint I believe there my be two spots where the gel coat has cracked or spidered. I drilled 6 holes near ther keel to dry out a spot that was blistering. About 1 1/2" in diameter. Got a few drips from two of the six holes around the spot. i do not thinkk the entire hull needs to be gel coated, but i would like to get all the paint off and have an expert give it a good look. I have begun removing the bottom paint myself. I am using Greased lightening and a acid brush. Removed about 60% of one layer of blue. One layer of black is underneath. I West System is the best way to fix the holes by injecting resin in the holes and laying glass over the small holes. the difficult part will be the glass as the best way would be to turn the boat over.
This is why I want a pro to do it.
newt posted 09-23-2002 08:55 AM ET (US)
John,
I cannot offer any advise on the bottom paint, except that when the boat is in the water, you do not even see it.
As for the small holes, they are pretty easy to fix. I did some keel repair on my montauk, and the hardest part was getting the boat jacked up off of the rollers. For 3/16" holes you dont even need any glass over them - just epoxy.
If you have an area of 1.5" that you need to repair, just get the gel coat off, fix your holes, and re-gel coat over the top, or instead of gel coat, use some pure epoxy as a barrier coat. You will not see it anyways.
John O posted 09-23-2002 09:39 AM ET (US)
Thanks
John O

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Author	Topic: Cost to Restore Hull
John O	posted 09-21-2002 11:47 PM ET (US) Any ball park cost on removing two coats of paint and repairing 6 drill holes approx. 3/16" used to dry out a blistered spot on hull. I would like to have a pro restore hull and add a fresh coat of paint as well as fill 6 small drill holes. I live in Ma and plan to get estimates. What has others paid for simular job.
David Jenkins	posted 09-22-2002 07:38 AM ET (US) Are you saying that you have a boat (what size?) that has been painted (the whole boat?) and you want to remove the paint and then re-paint? Or are you saying that you have a boat that has never been painted except in one little spot where someone put on two coats and now you want to remove (?) those two coats so that you can add another coat of paint? I'm sure that your question makes sense to you, but if you really want useful opinions from other Whaler owners, you will need to elaborate a bit more. Cheers!
John O	posted 09-22-2002 09:59 AM ET (US) 1988 Newport,( 16'7") Hull is bottom painted w/ two coats. One black one blue. 6 drill holes are on the bottom of the boat which would be the best way for gravity to work in removing minor dampness, essentially I would like to have all paint removed, holes repaired, and any other flaws on the bottom of the 1988 Newport (16'7") hull repaired and bottom painted. \\ Again I am looking for BALL PARK figures. Does this type of work cost 7/ft or 100/ft. I ahve know idea and would like some insight before I accept a qoute. thanks.
John O	posted 09-22-2002 10:05 AM ET (US) from what i understand this work is quoted by the foot. eX. 17' hull @ $10.00/ft would be $170.00, a 21' @ $10= $210.00, a 23'@ $10= $230.00. Are BW painted anywhere else other than the bottom?
David Jenkins	posted 09-22-2002 11:00 AM ET (US) Coming from the factory, there was no paint on the bottom of the boat. If you keep your boat in the water, bottom paint is appropriate, but there is no reason to take it all off if you are going to put another coat on. Good bottom paint is over $100 per gallon, so I if you can get someone to do what you want done for $170, I would say go for it. If you are looking to restore the boat to its original condition and want to remove all the paint and then re-gelcoat where necessary, the cost would be ten times that amount. As for filling the holes, there are lots of posts explaining how to do it, if you are so inclined. You might start with this article submitted by our moderator, jimh: http://www.continuouswave.com/maintenance-logs/epoxy
David Ratusnik	posted 09-22-2002 05:21 PM ET (US) Bottom paint job over existing will cost you approx $500 on a 20+ft boat. David
John O	posted 09-22-2002 05:54 PM ET (US) i was obvoiusly using $10/ft as an example. I guess i am slowly getting some info from this post. Do you really estimate removing 2 coats of paint filling six small holes and repainting $1700.00. No one on this site has ever had someone restore the hull of a late 80's 17' . I believe the job is worth under 1000.00 withou gel coating the entire hull. Anyone have a BALLPARK clue
David Ratusnik	posted 09-22-2002 07:04 PM ET (US) Boils down to $55/60 per hour around my parts. How much you want done? David
John O	posted 09-22-2002 07:33 PM ET (US) makes sense. Thanks
trainer	posted 09-22-2002 09:02 PM ET (US) I had my 15 sport regelcoated inside and out for $800. Add to this 150 for some glass work and the whole thing was under $1000. I did the prep work of removing the bottom paint and paint that a previous owner had painted inside. Regular paint remover (fiberglass safe from Lowes) did well on the inside, but the bottom paint was a job for the random orbital sander. The gel coat has held up well with heavy fishing use since Feb.
David Jenkins	posted 09-22-2002 10:11 PM ET (US) One reason why you are not getting better answers is that it is still not completely clear (to me, anyway) what you are asking. If you are talking about filling some holes and rolling on some bottom paint, I'd say that is about a $500 job (or $150 if you do it yourself). If you are talking about sanding off all of the existing paint and re-gelcoating the entire hull, that is more like a $1500 job (or $400 if you do it yourself). Is that helpful?
John O	posted 09-22-2002 10:44 PM ET (US) Yes and no. I am looking to remove existing bottom paint and reveal any problems that may exist. I bought this boat in may and it has atleast two coats of bottom paint I believe there my be two spots where the gel coat has cracked or spidered. I drilled 6 holes near ther keel to dry out a spot that was blistering. About 1 1/2" in diameter. Got a few drips from two of the six holes around the spot. i do not thinkk the entire hull needs to be gel coated, but i would like to get all the paint off and have an expert give it a good look. I have begun removing the bottom paint myself. I am using Greased lightening and a acid brush. Removed about 60% of one layer of blue. One layer of black is underneath. I West System is the best way to fix the holes by injecting resin in the holes and laying glass over the small holes. the difficult part will be the glass as the best way would be to turn the boat over. This is why I want a pro to do it.
newt	posted 09-23-2002 08:55 AM ET (US) John, I cannot offer any advise on the bottom paint, except that when the boat is in the water, you do not even see it. As for the small holes, they are pretty easy to fix. I did some keel repair on my montauk, and the hardest part was getting the boat jacked up off of the rollers. For 3/16" holes you dont even need any glass over them - just epoxy. If you have an area of 1.5" that you need to repair, just get the gel coat off, fix your holes, and re-gel coat over the top, or instead of gel coat, use some pure epoxy as a barrier coat. You will not see it anyways.
John O	posted 09-23-2002 09:39 AM ET (US) Thanks John O