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msullivan006 posted 10-24-2002 03:18 PM ET (US)
I have just acquired a '93 OR 17 that has the factory live well set-up just in front of the motor well. This includes a separate intake pump that is mounted directly to the interior of the hull and there is a hole through the hull bottom to allow the pump to suck sea water directly (no hose). My question: The hole under the pump has no finishing ring or strainer or anything else mounted on the outside of the hull. The hole looks as if it should have had some kind of trim or sealing ring, or preferrable a strainer of some sort, but there don't appear to be any marks from something that used to be there is has been lost. It is a little unfinished looking now, although probably no problem (except for sucking in seaweed, etc.) Anyone know how this is supposed to be set up?

Thanks,Mike
phatwhaler posted 10-25-2002 03:25 PM ET (US)
My buddy has the same boat. It has a el-cheapo bilge pump style pump that mounts in that hole. The pump is a casette style deal that can be removed from it's mount by turning the pump body. Sounds like the whole deal is missing from your rig. Check West Marine or boater's world because he bought a new pump at one of those stores recently. The wires to run the pump come out of the hull in the top forward section of the compartment. These wires just run forward and up to the switch panel. The hose somehow runs through the stbd quarter compartment, across the splash well, and into the port qtr. compartment/livewell. I think the hose actually goes through the same hole as the wires and around the comppartment under the deck. Probably the same route as the fuel line. His boat is a 97 I think and the whole intstall in fairly poor. The exposed hose in the splash well looks like $hit and there are some plastic tie/wraps holding the hose to the splash well. Another problem with this style of pump is that it leaks a little and causes his bilge pump to turn on fairly frequently.
On the up-side, the pumps are fairly inexpensive and can be replaced easily. I would guess that there is a small strainer on the bottom of the hull, although I didn't look. Make sure you use plenty of 5200 to install the lower part of the kit. You may even be able to find the parts at the BW dealer. Just walk in, ask lots of questions, try to get the pump manufacturer's name and all the part numbers, then go to West to buy everything. You may be able to find the parts you need on one of the newer models in the show room. Then you don't even have to talk to anyone.
phatwhaler out.
msullivan006 posted 10-25-2002 08:03 PM ET (US)
Hi Phatwhaler,
Sounds like you've just described one of the typical differences between the older BW's and the newer ones. My OR 17 is the '91-91 Doherty designed first series, and your buddy's is the newer '96-on series. In mine, the live well is on the center line, just in front of the motor well, and part of the molded section that includes the two side quarter seats. If the live well wasn't ordered, this is a dry storage locker, I believe. The pump is directly below the tank, just off center line, and its hose runs a short span, probably less than 2 feet and all inside the center compartment under the well, to the top side of the live well, where it attaches to a a pipe inside the well that spans the whole aft side of the well, at the top, and sprays the water out several vent holes across the width of the tank. There is a drain tube in the center of the tank, sticking up from the bottom of the tank about a foot or so to establish the desired depth of teh tank water. That tube drains the excess water directly into the motor well, with a very neat stainless cap covering the outlet in the motor well. The pump wiring is part of the main wiring harness. Overall, the whole thing looks very well done, which is why the untrimmed exterior hole under the pump looks as if there is something missing. I'm not into fishing, but all three of my sons are, so I'll let you all know how this set-up works come spring.

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Author	Topic: Live well bottom fitting
msullivan006	posted 10-24-2002 03:18 PM ET (US) I have just acquired a '93 OR 17 that has the factory live well set-up just in front of the motor well. This includes a separate intake pump that is mounted directly to the interior of the hull and there is a hole through the hull bottom to allow the pump to suck sea water directly (no hose). My question: The hole under the pump has no finishing ring or strainer or anything else mounted on the outside of the hull. The hole looks as if it should have had some kind of trim or sealing ring, or preferrable a strainer of some sort, but there don't appear to be any marks from something that used to be there is has been lost. It is a little unfinished looking now, although probably no problem (except for sucking in seaweed, etc.) Anyone know how this is supposed to be set up? Thanks,Mike
phatwhaler	posted 10-25-2002 03:25 PM ET (US) My buddy has the same boat. It has a el-cheapo bilge pump style pump that mounts in that hole. The pump is a casette style deal that can be removed from it's mount by turning the pump body. Sounds like the whole deal is missing from your rig. Check West Marine or boater's world because he bought a new pump at one of those stores recently. The wires to run the pump come out of the hull in the top forward section of the compartment. These wires just run forward and up to the switch panel. The hose somehow runs through the stbd quarter compartment, across the splash well, and into the port qtr. compartment/livewell. I think the hose actually goes through the same hole as the wires and around the comppartment under the deck. Probably the same route as the fuel line. His boat is a 97 I think and the whole intstall in fairly poor. The exposed hose in the splash well looks like $hit and there are some plastic tie/wraps holding the hose to the splash well. Another problem with this style of pump is that it leaks a little and causes his bilge pump to turn on fairly frequently. On the up-side, the pumps are fairly inexpensive and can be replaced easily. I would guess that there is a small strainer on the bottom of the hull, although I didn't look. Make sure you use plenty of 5200 to install the lower part of the kit. You may even be able to find the parts at the BW dealer. Just walk in, ask lots of questions, try to get the pump manufacturer's name and all the part numbers, then go to West to buy everything. You may be able to find the parts you need on one of the newer models in the show room. Then you don't even have to talk to anyone. phatwhaler out.
msullivan006	posted 10-25-2002 08:03 PM ET (US) Hi Phatwhaler, Sounds like you've just described one of the typical differences between the older BW's and the newer ones. My OR 17 is the '91-91 Doherty designed first series, and your buddy's is the newer '96-on series. In mine, the live well is on the center line, just in front of the motor well, and part of the molded section that includes the two side quarter seats. If the live well wasn't ordered, this is a dry storage locker, I believe. The pump is directly below the tank, just off center line, and its hose runs a short span, probably less than 2 feet and all inside the center compartment under the well, to the top side of the live well, where it attaches to a a pipe inside the well that spans the whole aft side of the well, at the top, and sprays the water out several vent holes across the width of the tank. There is a drain tube in the center of the tank, sticking up from the bottom of the tank about a foot or so to establish the desired depth of teh tank water. That tube drains the excess water directly into the motor well, with a very neat stainless cap covering the outlet in the motor well. The pump wiring is part of the main wiring harness. Overall, the whole thing looks very well done, which is why the untrimmed exterior hole under the pump looks as if there is something missing. I'm not into fishing, but all three of my sons are, so I'll let you all know how this set-up works come spring.