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NausetBoy posted 03-09-2003 07:07 PM ET (US)
Hey everyone, I am 17 and have a BW Nausit, I don't know the year. Anyway the Rail screws have been stripped out and do not hold. I am new to boating so I'm not sure what to do here. There is another post that talks of marine tex, and when I searched I found a post on using dowels, but Im not sure which meathod to sue or how to do it. Any help will be appreciated!
NausetBoy posted 03-10-2003 08:43 PM ET (US)
Anyone? (Unfortunantly im very impatient SORRY)
waterwal posted 03-10-2003 09:47 PM ET (US)
There is much written on this. Chose the list of replies for the last 2 years on the repair/mods section. Then do a page search under various subjects like "stripped, screws, epoxy, west sytem, etc" and see what you find. It's there.
If information is there, people will be unlikely to respond. Before I ask a question, I look at as many posts as possible before asking the question.
After all, why should others put in effort for you that you could do yourself? Besides, you might enjoy it. Good luck.
Arch Autenreith posted 03-10-2003 10:50 PM ET (US)
Nauset.
Sometimes it's the luck of the draw whether you get immediate responses. There may be other threads that are getting more action at the time. Don't take it personally.
Agree with Waterwal and do a search. It will be helpful as you'll see different thoughts on what to do.
If you have a Montauk (like me) and it's the bow railing you're talking about consider removing it completely. If not that then using heli-coils. I never used them specifically for that but have used them for other applications and are superior to anything else (other than cost. They're a little pricey esp if you have to purchase the tool kit also. Maybe $25-35.).
NausetBoy posted 03-11-2003 07:11 AM ET (US)
Okay everyone, thanks for the replies, I did a search and I am going with the dowel idea. But I need to know what kind of epoxy to use. Thanks
NausetBoy
Jimm posted 03-11-2003 02:39 PM ET (US)
I don't think you can do any better than the "West System" epoxy. They sell it by indidual packages (5/6 to a package $10), quarts, gallons...Try to pick up a West Catalogue - 1000 pages- has all the stuff you'll ever need. West's prices are a bit high so try other places first. Good luck..Jim
NausetBoy posted 03-11-2003 07:14 PM ET (US)
Thanks Jim. Since I have never used epoxy before, how do you clean it up? Does it stain gelcoat or paint? What precautions should I take when using it? Thanks!
waterwal posted 03-11-2003 10:34 PM ET (US)
NB- You should have plenty of time when working with it. A damp rag should wipe any excess that you might smear in places you don't want it. It shouldn't stain. Also, should you for whatever reason miss a spot in cleanup, you should be able to sand it down and go from there. Just be careful on non-skid.
Jimm posted 03-11-2003 11:23 PM ET (US)
Before you begin any epoxy work get the Gougeon Brothers booklet entitled - "Fiberglass Boat Repair and Maintainence". Again, West has it for $2.99; 76 pages; answers 98 of the 100 questions you'll have about epoxy. For the other two, call Gougeon at the 800 number in the booklet; they are most helpful...Jim
hooter posted 03-12-2003 09:40 AM ET (US)
Acetone does a great job of completely cleanin' up uncured epoxy. May be other solvents work, too, but this is one application Ah'm partial to usin' acetone. As noted elsewhere here recently, the stuff is highly flamable and can mess up your gelcoat if left in contact for any extended period. For decking, use a piece of old terry cloth towel soaked with a li'l acetone to get into the non-skid pattern. Just be smart with the stuff.
NausetBoy posted 03-12-2003 09:25 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all of the help. But I have foung an epoxy called everstar by evercoat. it is slightly cheaper than West System. Is it any good? How does it compare to west sytem? Thanks!
larimore posted 03-14-2003 08:37 AM ET (US)
I just drilled out my holes to 3/8 and poured in epoxy resin, let it harden, then drilled and screwed - Worked well!
Marine tex holds even better, but it is difficult to get into holes.
newt posted 03-14-2003 11:12 AM ET (US)
Tell you what, buy the west system with the little pumps to proportion out the exact amount of the two parts along with a couple of different filler materials, and you will be set up for a long time. You may spend a few bucks up front, but whenever you need epoxy, it's only two squirts away.
Stay away from the little plastic mixing cups at $0.99 each. Use some wax paper cups or what not.
NausetBoy posted 03-14-2003 02:17 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all of the help. I got the west system last night. They didnt have the pumps, oh well. Im plan to do it this weekend. Any more tips? Thanks!!
Nauset

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Author	Topic: Rail Screws
NausetBoy	posted 03-09-2003 07:07 PM ET (US) Hey everyone, I am 17 and have a BW Nausit, I don't know the year. Anyway the Rail screws have been stripped out and do not hold. I am new to boating so I'm not sure what to do here. There is another post that talks of marine tex, and when I searched I found a post on using dowels, but Im not sure which meathod to sue or how to do it. Any help will be appreciated!
NausetBoy	posted 03-10-2003 08:43 PM ET (US) Anyone? (Unfortunantly im very impatient SORRY)
waterwal	posted 03-10-2003 09:47 PM ET (US) There is much written on this. Chose the list of replies for the last 2 years on the repair/mods section. Then do a page search under various subjects like "stripped, screws, epoxy, west sytem, etc" and see what you find. It's there. If information is there, people will be unlikely to respond. Before I ask a question, I look at as many posts as possible before asking the question. After all, why should others put in effort for you that you could do yourself? Besides, you might enjoy it. Good luck.
Arch Autenreith	posted 03-10-2003 10:50 PM ET (US) Nauset. Sometimes it's the luck of the draw whether you get immediate responses. There may be other threads that are getting more action at the time. Don't take it personally. Agree with Waterwal and do a search. It will be helpful as you'll see different thoughts on what to do. If you have a Montauk (like me) and it's the bow railing you're talking about consider removing it completely. If not that then using heli-coils. I never used them specifically for that but have used them for other applications and are superior to anything else (other than cost. They're a little pricey esp if you have to purchase the tool kit also. Maybe $25-35.).
NausetBoy	posted 03-11-2003 07:11 AM ET (US) Okay everyone, thanks for the replies, I did a search and I am going with the dowel idea. But I need to know what kind of epoxy to use. Thanks NausetBoy
Jimm	posted 03-11-2003 02:39 PM ET (US) I don't think you can do any better than the "West System" epoxy. They sell it by indidual packages (5/6 to a package $10), quarts, gallons...Try to pick up a West Catalogue - 1000 pages- has all the stuff you'll ever need. West's prices are a bit high so try other places first. Good luck..Jim
NausetBoy	posted 03-11-2003 07:14 PM ET (US) Thanks Jim. Since I have never used epoxy before, how do you clean it up? Does it stain gelcoat or paint? What precautions should I take when using it? Thanks!
waterwal	posted 03-11-2003 10:34 PM ET (US) NB- You should have plenty of time when working with it. A damp rag should wipe any excess that you might smear in places you don't want it. It shouldn't stain. Also, should you for whatever reason miss a spot in cleanup, you should be able to sand it down and go from there. Just be careful on non-skid.
Jimm	posted 03-11-2003 11:23 PM ET (US) Before you begin any epoxy work get the Gougeon Brothers booklet entitled - "Fiberglass Boat Repair and Maintainence". Again, West has it for $2.99; 76 pages; answers 98 of the 100 questions you'll have about epoxy. For the other two, call Gougeon at the 800 number in the booklet; they are most helpful...Jim
hooter	posted 03-12-2003 09:40 AM ET (US) Acetone does a great job of completely cleanin' up uncured epoxy. May be other solvents work, too, but this is one application Ah'm partial to usin' acetone. As noted elsewhere here recently, the stuff is highly flamable and can mess up your gelcoat if left in contact for any extended period. For decking, use a piece of old terry cloth towel soaked with a li'l acetone to get into the non-skid pattern. Just be smart with the stuff.
NausetBoy	posted 03-12-2003 09:25 PM ET (US) Thanks for all of the help. But I have foung an epoxy called everstar by evercoat. it is slightly cheaper than West System. Is it any good? How does it compare to west sytem? Thanks!
larimore	posted 03-14-2003 08:37 AM ET (US) I just drilled out my holes to 3/8 and poured in epoxy resin, let it harden, then drilled and screwed - Worked well! Marine tex holds even better, but it is difficult to get into holes.
newt	posted 03-14-2003 11:12 AM ET (US) Tell you what, buy the west system with the little pumps to proportion out the exact amount of the two parts along with a couple of different filler materials, and you will be set up for a long time. You may spend a few bucks up front, but whenever you need epoxy, it's only two squirts away. Stay away from the little plastic mixing cups at $0.99 each. Use some wax paper cups or what not.
NausetBoy	posted 03-14-2003 02:17 PM ET (US) Thanks for all of the help. I got the west system last night. They didnt have the pumps, oh well. Im plan to do it this weekend. Any more tips? Thanks!! Nauset