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BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-10-2003 11:32 AM ET (US)
I put the 75hp johnson on my rage this weekend,and this motor has PT&T,a two wire setup,where can i get a switch to wire this thing up?
whalersman posted 03-10-2003 11:44 AM ET (US)
Bob,
Although you could probably buy one on eBay eventually, I would suggest going to your local Evinrude, Johson dealer and buying either a separate Trim/Tilt switch that mounts on the dash, or if you have a Binnacle mount, I would buy the switch that mounts inside the control handle.
All the parts are still available from your dealer.
Dick posted 03-10-2003 12:51 PM ET (US)
Bob
The trim switch broke in the handle of my control and I replaced it with a simple toggle switch mounted on the dash. Momentary on/Off/Momentary on. It's not as convenient as having it in the control handle but it works fine.
Dick
Bigshot posted 03-10-2003 01:12 PM ET (US)
you will need the relay box. This is easily found on E-Bay and I believe is the same for all OMC engines. It is just a black box about 3x4" that routes the power to up or down. The trim motor has 2 wires as you state one for power, 1 ground. The relay box switches the power so the motor either spins forward or reverse.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-10-2003 01:37 PM ET (US)
Thanks,Bigshot,for the life of me,i could'nt figure out how to wire that thing.I kind of thought i needed somethiong else.
whalersman posted 03-10-2003 02:24 PM ET (US)
I understand there are 2 different boxes.
One is a 2 wire system and the other is a 3 wire system. I am not sure exactly what year they changed from the earlier 2 wire system.
I have been through this twice now. Once with my boat and then a buddies boat... We both have the 3 wire system and when we needed parts, we made sure that the parts were for the 3 wire system.
It is easy to tell.. If you have a 2 wire system, you will have two wiring coming out of the Trim motor on the engine bracket, then you need to buy the 2 wire Relay Control box... maybe a 3 wire system will work but you may need to rewire it, I don't know.
I did not know you didn't have all the parts with your 75 HP Johnson.
whalersman posted 03-10-2003 02:54 PM ET (US)
Sorry,
One mistake above... The Trim motor does only have two wires....
It is the Trim & Tilt Relay box that either comes in the 2 or 3 wire system.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-10-2003 02:57 PM ET (US)
thanks for your help too whalersman,now i know that there are two styles,i almost bid on one before checking.
Bigshot posted 03-10-2003 03:13 PM ET (US)
Not sure about the 2-3 wire system but it makes sense. The only thing I can think of is trim and tilt and just tilt. I believe you need the 3 wire, my 70hp had that. Double check with a dealer or Steve Leone but I think 3 wire is what you need for anything newer than 1979 or so.
RWM posted 03-10-2003 06:46 PM ET (US)
I've gone through 2 OMC tilt and trim switches mounted on the control lever. They only lasted a couple months each. I'm wondering if I should just go with the a dash mount momentary switch and be done with it, or try the OMC handle switch again. Anyone had a problem with the life of these OMC switches? The engine and binnacle control are 2000.
whalersman posted 03-10-2003 07:49 PM ET (US)
RWM,
I have never had any problems with my switches in the Control Handle... I have two that are 1985 vintage.
Bob Kemmler,
I found the part number for my "Junction Box and Trim Gauge Kit". It is P/N 174181. This kit came with the Junction Box and the external Trim/Tilt switch and was installed on my 1985 70 HP Evinrude. I exchanged the external switch for one that went in the Control Hanlde... I like the switch in the Handle, some like the external switch...
Good Luck in your search...
Joe
f14bombcat posted 03-10-2003 07:53 PM ET (US)
BoatUS, or West Marine should have some switch similar if not the same as your dealer. F14
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-11-2003 11:01 AM ET (US)
Bob,
Have you decided on a tuna tower or a radar arch? You may need an adapter to allow a second station!
Paul
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-11-2003 12:38 PM ET (US)
With the current political state,i'm thinking of mounting a couple of 50mm guns to the front anchor locker and rear deck lol
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-11-2003 01:31 PM ET (US)
Superb!

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Author	Topic: Power tilt/trim switch
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-10-2003 11:32 AM ET (US) I put the 75hp johnson on my rage this weekend,and this motor has PT&T,a two wire setup,where can i get a switch to wire this thing up?
whalersman	posted 03-10-2003 11:44 AM ET (US) Bob, Although you could probably buy one on eBay eventually, I would suggest going to your local Evinrude, Johson dealer and buying either a separate Trim/Tilt switch that mounts on the dash, or if you have a Binnacle mount, I would buy the switch that mounts inside the control handle. All the parts are still available from your dealer.
Dick	posted 03-10-2003 12:51 PM ET (US) Bob The trim switch broke in the handle of my control and I replaced it with a simple toggle switch mounted on the dash. Momentary on/Off/Momentary on. It's not as convenient as having it in the control handle but it works fine. Dick
Bigshot	posted 03-10-2003 01:12 PM ET (US) you will need the relay box. This is easily found on E-Bay and I believe is the same for all OMC engines. It is just a black box about 3x4" that routes the power to up or down. The trim motor has 2 wires as you state one for power, 1 ground. The relay box switches the power so the motor either spins forward or reverse.
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-10-2003 01:37 PM ET (US) Thanks,Bigshot,for the life of me,i could'nt figure out how to wire that thing.I kind of thought i needed somethiong else.
whalersman	posted 03-10-2003 02:24 PM ET (US) I understand there are 2 different boxes. One is a 2 wire system and the other is a 3 wire system. I am not sure exactly what year they changed from the earlier 2 wire system. I have been through this twice now. Once with my boat and then a buddies boat... We both have the 3 wire system and when we needed parts, we made sure that the parts were for the 3 wire system. It is easy to tell.. If you have a 2 wire system, you will have two wiring coming out of the Trim motor on the engine bracket, then you need to buy the 2 wire Relay Control box... maybe a 3 wire system will work but you may need to rewire it, I don't know. I did not know you didn't have all the parts with your 75 HP Johnson.
whalersman	posted 03-10-2003 02:54 PM ET (US) Sorry, One mistake above... The Trim motor does only have two wires.... It is the Trim & Tilt Relay box that either comes in the 2 or 3 wire system.
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-10-2003 02:57 PM ET (US) thanks for your help too whalersman,now i know that there are two styles,i almost bid on one before checking.
Bigshot	posted 03-10-2003 03:13 PM ET (US) Not sure about the 2-3 wire system but it makes sense. The only thing I can think of is trim and tilt and just tilt. I believe you need the 3 wire, my 70hp had that. Double check with a dealer or Steve Leone but I think 3 wire is what you need for anything newer than 1979 or so.
RWM	posted 03-10-2003 06:46 PM ET (US) I've gone through 2 OMC tilt and trim switches mounted on the control lever. They only lasted a couple months each. I'm wondering if I should just go with the a dash mount momentary switch and be done with it, or try the OMC handle switch again. Anyone had a problem with the life of these OMC switches? The engine and binnacle control are 2000.
whalersman	posted 03-10-2003 07:49 PM ET (US) RWM, I have never had any problems with my switches in the Control Handle... I have two that are 1985 vintage. Bob Kemmler, I found the part number for my "Junction Box and Trim Gauge Kit". It is P/N 174181. This kit came with the Junction Box and the external Trim/Tilt switch and was installed on my 1985 70 HP Evinrude. I exchanged the external switch for one that went in the Control Hanlde... I like the switch in the Handle, some like the external switch... Good Luck in your search... Joe
f14bombcat	posted 03-10-2003 07:53 PM ET (US) BoatUS, or West Marine should have some switch similar if not the same as your dealer. F14
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-11-2003 11:01 AM ET (US) Bob, Have you decided on a tuna tower or a radar arch? You may need an adapter to allow a second station! Paul
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-11-2003 12:38 PM ET (US) With the current political state,i'm thinking of mounting a couple of 50mm guns to the front anchor locker and rear deck lol
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-11-2003 01:31 PM ET (US) Superb!