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BMARSH posted 04-02-2003 08:03 PM ET (US)
the teak is yellow ,where do i start .striping sanding what ever it takes.i saw a 3 step procedure in a boating book ,please help rookie teak refinisher
OutrageMan posted 04-02-2003 10:12 PM ET (US)
I almost always start by sanding. Start at 80 grit and sand until all of the wood looks new. Then progress up to 220 grit. Then apply a good teak oil like Amazon. I usually go with 4 coats with a light sanding of 320 inbetween. Don't be shy about the amount per coat either. Let it soak in real good, then wipe off the excess.
Brian
BMARSH posted 04-02-2003 10:17 PM ET (US)
will the sanding bring it back to natural.i have been told to use some type ofsolvent to strip
OutrageMan posted 04-03-2003 12:25 AM ET (US)
Sanding will will bring it back if you do enough of it. You can use a teak cleaner to get the dirt and to bleack the wood, but you are still going to have to sand, as the cleaner will raise the grain.
Brian
BabySitter posted 04-03-2003 08:51 AM ET (US)
I'm in the same boat, so to speak, after a re-do a year ago. Used Amazon cleaner and oil but now it looks like c--p - boat is covered too. I recall a thread around a year ago on this subject - one teak sealer kept popping up as a consensus favorite. Anyone remember what that was ?
JB
OutrageMan posted 04-03-2003 08:55 AM ET (US)
That is the fun thing about teak. In a very short time it begins to look like crap. Teak oils have very little UV protection, and don't seal the grain. With teak being as porus as it is, it collects every bit of dirt and grime, and locks it in its pores. Other than varnishing it, there isn't a lot you can do about this high maintenence wood. However, when it is done well, it does look absolutely beautiful.
Brian
BMARSH posted 04-03-2003 10:13 AM ET (US)
would you recomend sealing after cleaning and oiling
Bigshot posted 04-03-2003 10:44 AM ET (US)
penetrol supposably works great, gonna try it this spring.
OutrageMan posted 04-03-2003 01:33 PM ET (US)
Sealing the grain after oiling is asking for problems. Furniture guys do it, but they let the oil cure for a week or two, and then put something like shellac on top of it. The teak on your boat is a different story.
Don't be overly concerned about it. Just sand as described, and slap the oil on. When it looks dirty scrub it with a brush and water. Then when the oil fades give it a quick sand and put another coat on it. The process I described earlier is for restoring the teak not maintaining it. You will only have to do it once. To maintain, simply do the brushing with water and re-apply a coat or two as needed.
Unfortunately, in boating there is nothing that is maintenence free.
Brian
bluewater posted 04-03-2003 01:43 PM ET (US)
Used Starbrite Teak cleaner and restorer after a lot of sanding. Finished it up with 3 coats of Meguiar's gold teak oil. Looks good so far. Now, I just have to see what the weather is going to do to it.
bluewater
BabySitter posted 04-03-2003 04:16 PM ET (US)
Mine looked great too for about 6 months. Now has black spots and streaks - don't think it is dirt because of the cover. Outrage - are you saying just wash and re-oil at this point ... or start sanding.
JB
BMARSH posted 04-03-2003 04:41 PM ET (US)
I PURCHASED STRYPEEZE SEMI PASTE WILL THIS DO THE JOB MADE BY SAVOGRAN.
andygere posted 04-03-2003 05:25 PM ET (US)
When cleaning with a scrub brush and water, scrub across the grain not with it. This will help prevent raising the grain by scrubbing out softer fibers. I keep a bottle of teak oil and a terry cloth rag on the boat and give it a light wipe every couple of trips. The rag picks up and removes a lot of dirt, and the oil keeps the wood from drying out and becoming a dirt sponge. Also, keep it covered. I am amazed at the number of boats that look like junk because the owners are too cheap or lazy to cover them. The elements are the biggest boat killers out there. Words of wisdom from a guy who just wrote a big check at the canvas shop.
OutrageMan posted 04-03-2003 09:34 PM ET (US)
Bluewater:
Yes, just clean it up a bit. You can even use a teak cleaner (not teak bleach) then slap on another coat. Most people I know only sand it down - and then only enough to knock down the grain - in the winter.
Brian
BMARSH posted 04-04-2003 09:21 AM ET (US)
OUTRAGEMAN I STRIPED SCRAPED AND SANDED,ON ONE PANEL OF SEAT BACK.PUT TEAK OIL ON ONE FOOT SECTION,HAS SOME BLACK LINES THROUGH IT OTHER THAN THAT LOOKS GOOD.I WOULD PREFER IT WITHOUT THE BLACK LINES.DOES THIS MEAN MORE ELBOW GREASE.I AM ASSUMING THE LINES ARE DIRT

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Author	Topic: 86 MONTAUK TEAK NEEDS MAJOR HELP
BMARSH	posted 04-02-2003 08:03 PM ET (US) the teak is yellow ,where do i start .striping sanding what ever it takes.i saw a 3 step procedure in a boating book ,please help rookie teak refinisher
OutrageMan	posted 04-02-2003 10:12 PM ET (US) I almost always start by sanding. Start at 80 grit and sand until all of the wood looks new. Then progress up to 220 grit. Then apply a good teak oil like Amazon. I usually go with 4 coats with a light sanding of 320 inbetween. Don't be shy about the amount per coat either. Let it soak in real good, then wipe off the excess. Brian
BMARSH	posted 04-02-2003 10:17 PM ET (US) will the sanding bring it back to natural.i have been told to use some type ofsolvent to strip
OutrageMan	posted 04-03-2003 12:25 AM ET (US) Sanding will will bring it back if you do enough of it. You can use a teak cleaner to get the dirt and to bleack the wood, but you are still going to have to sand, as the cleaner will raise the grain. Brian
BabySitter	posted 04-03-2003 08:51 AM ET (US) I'm in the same boat, so to speak, after a re-do a year ago. Used Amazon cleaner and oil but now it looks like c--p - boat is covered too. I recall a thread around a year ago on this subject - one teak sealer kept popping up as a consensus favorite. Anyone remember what that was ? JB
OutrageMan	posted 04-03-2003 08:55 AM ET (US) That is the fun thing about teak. In a very short time it begins to look like crap. Teak oils have very little UV protection, and don't seal the grain. With teak being as porus as it is, it collects every bit of dirt and grime, and locks it in its pores. Other than varnishing it, there isn't a lot you can do about this high maintenence wood. However, when it is done well, it does look absolutely beautiful. Brian
BMARSH	posted 04-03-2003 10:13 AM ET (US) would you recomend sealing after cleaning and oiling
Bigshot	posted 04-03-2003 10:44 AM ET (US) penetrol supposably works great, gonna try it this spring.
OutrageMan	posted 04-03-2003 01:33 PM ET (US) Sealing the grain after oiling is asking for problems. Furniture guys do it, but they let the oil cure for a week or two, and then put something like shellac on top of it. The teak on your boat is a different story. Don't be overly concerned about it. Just sand as described, and slap the oil on. When it looks dirty scrub it with a brush and water. Then when the oil fades give it a quick sand and put another coat on it. The process I described earlier is for restoring the teak not maintaining it. You will only have to do it once. To maintain, simply do the brushing with water and re-apply a coat or two as needed. Unfortunately, in boating there is nothing that is maintenence free. Brian
bluewater	posted 04-03-2003 01:43 PM ET (US) Used Starbrite Teak cleaner and restorer after a lot of sanding. Finished it up with 3 coats of Meguiar's gold teak oil. Looks good so far. Now, I just have to see what the weather is going to do to it. bluewater
BabySitter	posted 04-03-2003 04:16 PM ET (US) Mine looked great too for about 6 months. Now has black spots and streaks - don't think it is dirt because of the cover. Outrage - are you saying just wash and re-oil at this point ... or start sanding. JB
BMARSH	posted 04-03-2003 04:41 PM ET (US) I PURCHASED STRYPEEZE SEMI PASTE WILL THIS DO THE JOB MADE BY SAVOGRAN.
andygere	posted 04-03-2003 05:25 PM ET (US) When cleaning with a scrub brush and water, scrub across the grain not with it. This will help prevent raising the grain by scrubbing out softer fibers. I keep a bottle of teak oil and a terry cloth rag on the boat and give it a light wipe every couple of trips. The rag picks up and removes a lot of dirt, and the oil keeps the wood from drying out and becoming a dirt sponge. Also, keep it covered. I am amazed at the number of boats that look like junk because the owners are too cheap or lazy to cover them. The elements are the biggest boat killers out there. Words of wisdom from a guy who just wrote a big check at the canvas shop.
OutrageMan	posted 04-03-2003 09:34 PM ET (US) Bluewater: Yes, just clean it up a bit. You can even use a teak cleaner (not teak bleach) then slap on another coat. Most people I know only sand it down - and then only enough to knock down the grain - in the winter. Brian
BMARSH	posted 04-04-2003 09:21 AM ET (US) OUTRAGEMAN I STRIPED SCRAPED AND SANDED,ON ONE PANEL OF SEAT BACK.PUT TEAK OIL ON ONE FOOT SECTION,HAS SOME BLACK LINES THROUGH IT OTHER THAN THAT LOOKS GOOD.I WOULD PREFER IT WITHOUT THE BLACK LINES.DOES THIS MEAN MORE ELBOW GREASE.I AM ASSUMING THE LINES ARE DIRT