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peteinsf posted 03-24-2004 10:23 AM ET (US)
Can you use swap motors and keep the same shift controls.
ie; Can a OMC box control a Susuki? Merc control a Yamaha?
It always seemed odd that a Morse or Telex could control all the motors but you can't interchange them (if it's true).
Pete

Bigshot posted 03-24-2004 01:49 PM ET (US)
Some you can and some you can't. Depends on the type of fitting the box takes along with the engine. I have seen all kinds of mix-matched boxes but it does not mean they are ALL interchangeable. Recently I saw a new merc that had Suzuki controls and gauges.
LHG posted 03-24-2004 04:32 PM ET (US)
Yamaha Shift/throttle controls can be used with Mercury engines, at least at the V-6 size. I have seen many such re-riggings in the SE FL market.
tarbaby posted 03-24-2004 05:35 PM ET (US)
It depends, Some throttles are pushed and some are pulled. A Morse shifter can do both..... You just flip a part inside of it. They look great too.
LHG posted 03-24-2004 05:57 PM ET (US)
Speaking of controls, wait 'til you have a chance to expereince the new Mercury Digital (fly by wire) controls.
No push-pull cables at all.
These are really slick and super smooth. I would not buy a 225 Optimax without this option, and hopefully, these will become available thoughout the line. The new Verado line has them as standard equipment.
Peter posted 03-24-2004 06:50 PM ET (US)
A friend of mine piloted a boat with fly-by-wire controls (not Mercury) and said they were awful in a heavy sea because they were too sensitive to the touch making control of boat speed difficult in those conditions.
I've played around with those DTS controls as well as the others several times at boat shows and didn't like the very light feel compared to the mechanical counterparts. Is there a friction adjustment? I gave them a look over and couldn't find anything obvious.
Buckda posted 03-24-2004 08:11 PM ET (US)
Similar responses to the "feel" of fly by wire controls have been reflected by Pilots who change over from Boeing products to those manufactured by Airbus Industrie.
Given the relatively small number of airline pilots to boat owners, one would hope that the makers of these new fly-by wire control devices will research some issues management and public communications and education initiatives before rolling them out on a widescale basis, else they risk backlash from their buying public.
I can see how the new fly-by wire controls would require some getting used to, but have a feeling that once you GET the feeling for them, you'll be in good shape.
Dave

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Author	Topic: Are control boxes interchangeable between brands?
peteinsf	posted 03-24-2004 10:23 AM ET (US) Can you use swap motors and keep the same shift controls. ie; Can a OMC box control a Susuki? Merc control a Yamaha? It always seemed odd that a Morse or Telex could control all the motors but you can't interchange them (if it's true). Pete
Bigshot	posted 03-24-2004 01:49 PM ET (US) Some you can and some you can't. Depends on the type of fitting the box takes along with the engine. I have seen all kinds of mix-matched boxes but it does not mean they are ALL interchangeable. Recently I saw a new merc that had Suzuki controls and gauges.
LHG	posted 03-24-2004 04:32 PM ET (US) Yamaha Shift/throttle controls can be used with Mercury engines, at least at the V-6 size. I have seen many such re-riggings in the SE FL market.
tarbaby	posted 03-24-2004 05:35 PM ET (US) It depends, Some throttles are pushed and some are pulled. A Morse shifter can do both..... You just flip a part inside of it. They look great too.
LHG	posted 03-24-2004 05:57 PM ET (US) Speaking of controls, wait 'til you have a chance to expereince the new Mercury Digital (fly by wire) controls. No push-pull cables at all. These are really slick and super smooth. I would not buy a 225 Optimax without this option, and hopefully, these will become available thoughout the line. The new Verado line has them as standard equipment.
Peter	posted 03-24-2004 06:50 PM ET (US) A friend of mine piloted a boat with fly-by-wire controls (not Mercury) and said they were awful in a heavy sea because they were too sensitive to the touch making control of boat speed difficult in those conditions. I've played around with those DTS controls as well as the others several times at boat shows and didn't like the very light feel compared to the mechanical counterparts. Is there a friction adjustment? I gave them a look over and couldn't find anything obvious.
Buckda	posted 03-24-2004 08:11 PM ET (US) Similar responses to the "feel" of fly by wire controls have been reflected by Pilots who change over from Boeing products to those manufactured by Airbus Industrie. Given the relatively small number of airline pilots to boat owners, one would hope that the makers of these new fly-by wire control devices will research some issues management and public communications and education initiatives before rolling them out on a widescale basis, else they risk backlash from their buying public. I can see how the new fly-by wire controls would require some getting used to, but have a feeling that once you GET the feeling for them, you'll be in good shape. Dave