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kamie posted 04-20-2004 04:41 PM ET (US)   Profile for kamie   Send Email to kamie  
I found a good bet for why the water runs straight under the deck, besides the failing caulk job. Between the deck and the console there is some type of plastic piece that extends the rigging tunnel up into the console. From looking at it, this should be attached to the deck at least enough to deflect water around it and not straingt into the rigging tunnel. Well, it's not, in fact it's pretty cracked and seems to be held on by a single screw. Any idea what it was called? I would like to try to to fix or fabricate something so the water will have a chance to drain out the rear drains.

thanks

stefan posted 04-20-2004 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for stefan  Send Email to stefan     
kamie,

I think if any water gets into the tunnel at console, it just drains out at the transom end, where the plug is.

I have that plastic piece and that just covers the edges of the hole openning where the tunnel opens up for wires to get up to console, it doesn't cover anything.

The console side is supposed to protect water from getting underneath it, (caulking).

That's my best guess

Tom W Clark posted 04-20-2004 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Kamie,

Actually I'm not sure there is supposed to be anything between the deck and the bottom of the console. What you may be seeing is what Whaler called the "Tunnel Collar" which by design is mounted in the console on top of the "Console Shelf" and faces upwards, not downwards.

The purpose of the Tunnel Collar is to keep small items from falling out of the console through the hole the cables pass through.

There is no part that surrounds the entry to the rigging tunnel. It sounds as if somebody may have flipped the Tunnel Collar over at some point and left if pointing downwards.

And yes, there isn't anything to stop water from getting down there. Likewise the covers on the ides don't really stop water from the deck draining to the fuel tank cavity either.

Tom W Clark posted 04-20-2004 05:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Oops, I retract some of what I just said.

There is another "Tunnel Collar" that mounts the the "Fuel Tank Cover" (deck, floor) that is a two part piece. It simply screws to the fuel tank cover without benefit of caulk. It face downwards as well and acts as a grommet to cover the rough edge of the hole that is cut in the fuel tank cover. It is sort of a big grommet for the wires and cables, not a water deflector.

Stefan is correct that water entering here will (mostly) stay in the rigging tunnel and drain to the sump in the starboard stern, but the fuel tank cavity is not entirely separate and some water will ALWAYS get in there.

Joe Kriz posted 04-20-2004 05:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
Tom,

There are actually (2) Tunnel Collars...

One that is a full collar that faces upwards as you mention and is part of the console.. Whaler part #12133800, Quantity = 1

The second collar is a half collar and is mounted on the floor facing down.
Whaler part #12133800, Quantiy = .50

Obviously they are splitting one of these parts and making two halves which can then be used on two different boats.

I have both of these on my Outrage 18.. I thought my deck tunnel collar was broken until I saw it listed that way in the Parts Catalog for the Outrage 18..

Joe

kamie posted 04-20-2004 05:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     
I have the tunnel collar in place inside the console.
[url]http://kamie.homeip.net/evenstar/html/thumper_20.html[/ur]
This is between the console and the deck.
Here is a picture
http://kamie.homeip.net/evenstar/html/thumper_24.html
Joe Kriz posted 04-20-2004 05:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
kamie,

The 1/2 piece you show pointing upwards from the floor is pointing down, inside the hull on my Outrage... Down is the direction it shows in the parts catalog also... I believe someone put yours in backwards..

Joe Kriz posted 04-20-2004 05:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe Kriz  Send Email to Joe Kriz     
I just noticed your other link:
http://kamie.homeip.net/evenstar/html/thumper_20.html

This is correct for the inside of the console. Mine is the same way and it shows it this way in the parts catalog.

Joe

kamie posted 04-20-2004 05:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     
My guess is that it was switched when they put the t-top on. Although it's possible that it was done when they swapped the console from the original hull to the new one. Either way I can't see it being installed the way it is with the console in place.
Gep posted 04-21-2004 08:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
Kamie,
When I redid my Outrage last year I ran into this same dilemma.

I chose to buy two new tunnel collars and I used one inside the console facing up, like Tom said, to make sure nothing from inside the console would fall into the rigging tunnel.

I used another full one on the gas tank deck cover, also facing up, and cauled around it so water could not run into the tunnel.

Mike

sailorson posted 04-21-2004 03:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for sailorson  Send Email to sailorson     
Kamie,
My '95 Outrage 17 has a similar collar on the deck facing up, as well as the collar in the console floor, facing up also. I don't think the collar has room to face down, into the rigging tunnel, on my boat. It seems to work well as a splash guard (if properly sealed). The rigging tunnel on my boat is not sealed but is open to the fuel tank and the foam which surrounds the tank. I would think it would be advantageous to keep this area as dry as possible. I don't know what the part is called. Hope this helps.
Dan
sailorson posted 04-21-2004 03:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for sailorson  Send Email to sailorson     
Kamie,
My '95 Outrage 17 has a similar collar on the deck facing up, as well as the collar in the console floor, facing up also. I don't think the collar has room to face down, into the rigging tunnel, on my boat. It seems to work well as a splash guard (if properly sealed). The rigging tunnel on my boat is not sealed but is open to the fuel tank and the foam which surrounds the tank. I would think it would be advantageous to keep this area as dry as possible. I don't know what the part is called. Hope this helps.
Dan
rayl posted 04-21-2004 03:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for rayl    
kamie,
I hate to take this slightly off topic, but I was looking at your photos and have to ask a question about your console. Is it original? I have an 86 OR with the same console and my research is indicating that it is NOT original.

Just checking.

Ray

kamie posted 04-21-2004 05:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for kamie  Send Email to kamie     
Ray,
It's original to the original hull which was an 82. The hull was replaced in 87. When Whaler did that, they sent the bare hull and you moved all the options from the original hull to the new one ( i have the original wise seats as well). the old one is listed as destroyed in the whaler records. My guess is that the owner of your boat had one of the early hulls that had delaminating issues and got it replaced under warranty. I purchased mine from the original owner and so I found the original hin# in his paperwork.
rayl posted 04-22-2004 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for rayl    
kamie,
Thanks for the info(thanks as well to you Joseph). I have been trying to figure out what could have happened to cause the mismatch. This is probably the reason. The boat was left to my family by a deceased relative and I think it was purchased by the relative after the previous owner did the hull change. That's my guess anyway. I really appreciate the info.

Thanks!

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