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mike pape posted 08-12-2005 03:52 PM ET (US)
i seen someone was thinking of a teak deck can't remember who but i just put in a teak deck and was doing some research here is a site that has some do's and don'ts or like they say no no's
http://www.yandina.com/TeakDeck.htm#NoNos
mike
jeffs22outrage posted 08-13-2005 02:38 PM ET (US)
Mike, I know Buckda (Dave) was thinking of heading this route. Do you have any pictures yet of your new deck?
mike pape posted 08-13-2005 09:29 PM ET (US)
will get pictures,
jeffs22outrage posted 08-14-2005 08:25 PM ET (US)
Thanks!
Cicada posted 08-14-2005 10:47 PM ET (US)
Mike,
I'd like to see some pictures also.
I've been thinking about a teak deck but that's about as far as I've got.
I see one of the no nos is finishing the teak with a recommendation to just leave the teak bare and clean. That's an interesting way to handlle the finish and am looking at it. I'd like to see some photos of a whaler in bare wood allowed to age to gray with care.
Is that the way you're going to go with your deck?
Thanks for the reference to the Yandina page - kind of an interesting site.
Another nice reference is "Brightwork..." or "Brightwork Companion..." by Rebecca Wittman. She doesn't recommend a finish on exterior decks either.
Paul
OutrageMan posted 08-15-2005 08:00 AM ET (US)
Traditionally, teak decks have not been finished. Unfinished teak is naturally non-skid. However, it must be kept clean. If you want to see what it looks like, take a look at some old wood boats in your area. Many of then will have this type of deck.
Brian
Buckda posted 08-15-2005 10:11 AM ET (US)
Yes - I'm interested in hearing details about your install Mike.
Right now, I'm in a quandry because I want 1/4 inch teak decking (thickness), but it seems that the way these decks hang, that they are trimmed to the 1/4 inch thickness along the edges and then thicken back out to 3/4 inch thickness in the center. How to do this and maintain structrual integrity is escaping me for the moment, as it would seem that the plywood underneat would just be "hanging" from the teak decking and not really adding to strength at all.
The gentleman I contacted about this mentioned that he uses three coats of penetrating teak oil on the decking, but I haven't yet discussed with him the tapered edges of the decking and how that might work with teak strips on the top.
mike pape posted 08-15-2005 05:41 PM ET (US)
i used 1/2 " teak one solid piecewith rubber inserts,(was advised against planks) then half inch plywood underneath then epoxy the plywood just like jeff did with his deck, glueing it epoxy everything is the same as jeff notes just your using teak on top instead of fiberglass,
i have laid it on the deck i have not scewed it down yet as time has not allowed me, but walking on it seems strong, as far as putting oil on it, for years i put oil on the boards on the gunnels and that did nothing but make things worse and collect dirt, alot of sailboats have teak decks last them years, if your worried that it will look white that is going to protect it once you get out in the water throw some water on the deck it will look great :) i have a cover and also going to keep it in a covered area, before i started restoring this boat it sat out in the florida sun for 5 years and the teak that was on it (gunnels) just took some light sanding and epoxy and varnish and it looks great, i wish fiberglass was as easy to fix as teak
getting pictures of tonight
putting the deck on has been the easy part of restoring this boat so far
Buckda posted 08-15-2005 05:57 PM ET (US)
The deck lies flat with 1/2 inch of material?
I guess I was under the impression that for the edges, you only had 1/4 inch...then the other 1/2 inch hangs below in the center, per the diagram on page 2 of Jeff Rolfing's article on deck repair.....
Buckda posted 08-15-2005 06:23 PM ET (US)
The gentleman I spoke with was planning to build thusly:
1/2 inch thick mahogany plywood for the substrate, then 2 3/8 inch wide by 1/4 inch thick teak decking planks, separated by 1/4 inch by 1/4 inch black material (plastic?).
The current configuration appears to be 3/8 inch thick resin-impregnated marine grade plywood with a 1/8 inch thick gelcoat nonskid.
How did you get that 1 inch thick deck to fit right?
Thanks for the information.

Dave
mike pape posted 08-15-2005 09:57 PM ET (US)
its 1 inch on an outrage 18 86 model, its 1/2 on the lip then on the plywood i cut at a 45 drops right in, what i did was take a scap piece of plywood 1/2 then another 1/2 glue them togetheror just lay them together on the deck and you'll see
i did not think it was a inch either
i
Buckda posted 08-15-2005 10:56 PM ET (US)
Thanks Mike. I appreciate the voice of experience.
SpongeBob posted 08-16-2005 10:01 AM ET (US)
You guys seem pretty well along in your projects, but check out this company's site.
www.teakdecking.com
They manufacture teak pannels for decks. Any size and shape. The deck consists of different sizes (your choice of width & thickness) laminated to a fibreglass substrate. This is then glued to the existing deck of your boat. I assume you could glue it to a 1/4 in (or more) thick piece of marine plywood for the deck inserts in Outrages. If you want the whole deck teaked they cah do that also. I've seen their products on several boats and it looks very nice.
Jeff
Buckda posted 08-16-2005 03:24 PM ET (US)
Link to Mike Pape's photos:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b119/KETCHTHIS/
Nice work Mike!
Dave
mike pape posted 08-16-2005 03:33 PM ET (US)
Its fairly easy dave i got this board from specialty marine
4 weeks
jeffs22outrage posted 08-16-2005 03:53 PM ET (US)
the photobucket page is asking for a login password
mike pape posted 08-16-2005 04:26 PM ET (US)
OUTRAGE
Buckda posted 08-16-2005 04:27 PM ET (US)
Jeff - I believe it is OUTRAGE
jeffs22outrage posted 08-16-2005 05:34 PM ET (US)
Mike A+ on that deck...Makes me wish I had gone that route...Maybe...Oh well. Keep us updated on this project. Very nice.
mike pape posted 08-16-2005 05:53 PM ET (US)
THANKS jeff will see what it looks like after a few months of fishing

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Author	Topic: teak deck
mike pape	posted 08-12-2005 03:52 PM ET (US) i seen someone was thinking of a teak deck can't remember who but i just put in a teak deck and was doing some research here is a site that has some do's and don'ts or like they say no no's http://www.yandina.com/TeakDeck.htm#NoNos mike
jeffs22outrage	posted 08-13-2005 02:38 PM ET (US) Mike, I know Buckda (Dave) was thinking of heading this route. Do you have any pictures yet of your new deck?
mike pape	posted 08-13-2005 09:29 PM ET (US) will get pictures,
jeffs22outrage	posted 08-14-2005 08:25 PM ET (US) Thanks!
Cicada	posted 08-14-2005 10:47 PM ET (US) Mike, I'd like to see some pictures also. I've been thinking about a teak deck but that's about as far as I've got. I see one of the no nos is finishing the teak with a recommendation to just leave the teak bare and clean. That's an interesting way to handlle the finish and am looking at it. I'd like to see some photos of a whaler in bare wood allowed to age to gray with care. Is that the way you're going to go with your deck? Thanks for the reference to the Yandina page - kind of an interesting site. Another nice reference is "Brightwork..." or "Brightwork Companion..." by Rebecca Wittman. She doesn't recommend a finish on exterior decks either. Paul
OutrageMan	posted 08-15-2005 08:00 AM ET (US) Traditionally, teak decks have not been finished. Unfinished teak is naturally non-skid. However, it must be kept clean. If you want to see what it looks like, take a look at some old wood boats in your area. Many of then will have this type of deck. Brian
Buckda	posted 08-15-2005 10:11 AM ET (US) Yes - I'm interested in hearing details about your install Mike. Right now, I'm in a quandry because I want 1/4 inch teak decking (thickness), but it seems that the way these decks hang, that they are trimmed to the 1/4 inch thickness along the edges and then thicken back out to 3/4 inch thickness in the center. How to do this and maintain structrual integrity is escaping me for the moment, as it would seem that the plywood underneat would just be "hanging" from the teak decking and not really adding to strength at all. The gentleman I contacted about this mentioned that he uses three coats of penetrating teak oil on the decking, but I haven't yet discussed with him the tapered edges of the decking and how that might work with teak strips on the top.
mike pape	posted 08-15-2005 05:41 PM ET (US) i used 1/2 " teak one solid piecewith rubber inserts,(was advised against planks) then half inch plywood underneath then epoxy the plywood just like jeff did with his deck, glueing it epoxy everything is the same as jeff notes just your using teak on top instead of fiberglass, i have laid it on the deck i have not scewed it down yet as time has not allowed me, but walking on it seems strong, as far as putting oil on it, for years i put oil on the boards on the gunnels and that did nothing but make things worse and collect dirt, alot of sailboats have teak decks last them years, if your worried that it will look white that is going to protect it once you get out in the water throw some water on the deck it will look great :) i have a cover and also going to keep it in a covered area, before i started restoring this boat it sat out in the florida sun for 5 years and the teak that was on it (gunnels) just took some light sanding and epoxy and varnish and it looks great, i wish fiberglass was as easy to fix as teak getting pictures of tonight putting the deck on has been the easy part of restoring this boat so far
Buckda	posted 08-15-2005 05:57 PM ET (US) The deck lies flat with 1/2 inch of material? I guess I was under the impression that for the edges, you only had 1/4 inch...then the other 1/2 inch hangs below in the center, per the diagram on page 2 of Jeff Rolfing's article on deck repair.....
Buckda	posted 08-15-2005 06:23 PM ET (US) The gentleman I spoke with was planning to build thusly: 1/2 inch thick mahogany plywood for the substrate, then 2 3/8 inch wide by 1/4 inch thick teak decking planks, separated by 1/4 inch by 1/4 inch black material (plastic?). The current configuration appears to be 3/8 inch thick resin-impregnated marine grade plywood with a 1/8 inch thick gelcoat nonskid. How did you get that 1 inch thick deck to fit right? Thanks for the information. Dave
mike pape	posted 08-15-2005 09:57 PM ET (US) its 1 inch on an outrage 18 86 model, its 1/2 on the lip then on the plywood i cut at a 45 drops right in, what i did was take a scap piece of plywood 1/2 then another 1/2 glue them togetheror just lay them together on the deck and you'll see i did not think it was a inch either i
Buckda	posted 08-15-2005 10:56 PM ET (US) Thanks Mike. I appreciate the voice of experience.
SpongeBob	posted 08-16-2005 10:01 AM ET (US) You guys seem pretty well along in your projects, but check out this company's site. www.teakdecking.com They manufacture teak pannels for decks. Any size and shape. The deck consists of different sizes (your choice of width & thickness) laminated to a fibreglass substrate. This is then glued to the existing deck of your boat. I assume you could glue it to a 1/4 in (or more) thick piece of marine plywood for the deck inserts in Outrages. If you want the whole deck teaked they cah do that also. I've seen their products on several boats and it looks very nice. Jeff
Buckda	posted 08-16-2005 03:24 PM ET (US) Link to Mike Pape's photos: http://photobucket.com/albums/b119/KETCHTHIS/ Nice work Mike! Dave
mike pape	posted 08-16-2005 03:33 PM ET (US) Its fairly easy dave i got this board from specialty marine 4 weeks
jeffs22outrage	posted 08-16-2005 03:53 PM ET (US) the photobucket page is asking for a login password
mike pape	posted 08-16-2005 04:26 PM ET (US) OUTRAGE
Buckda	posted 08-16-2005 04:27 PM ET (US) Jeff - I believe it is OUTRAGE
jeffs22outrage	posted 08-16-2005 05:34 PM ET (US) Mike A+ on that deck...Makes me wish I had gone that route...Maybe...Oh well. Keep us updated on this project. Very nice.
mike pape	posted 08-16-2005 05:53 PM ET (US) THANKS jeff will see what it looks like after a few months of fishing