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cgodfrey posted 08-08-2008 05:21 PM ET (US)
I've had an experience with Turtle Wax brand Rubbing Compound unpleasant enough that I've decided to write about it here as a warning to others.
I flipped and cleaned my old 13 hull this morning and spend several hours gently powerwashing and then scrubbing the heck out of it. I rinsed, let dry, and admired my surprisingly clean 45 year old hull.
I decided I had the time and ambition to attempt to take it to the next level and polish and wax the hull as well.
I applied the Turtle Wax Rubbing Compound to half of my clean, dry hull, Apply, let haze, buff off in one direction. 95 percent of the compound dried and easily buffed off without incident.
To my horror, I found that the pigment in the rubbing compound (a deep copper red) left quite a bit of blotchy peach colored stains on my hull.
I spent the better part of two additional hours scouring the hull again with only moderate success. Some of the stains seem to be quite deep and stubborn, despite the fact the rubbing compound was on the hull for less tan 15 minutes.
Parts of my hull now vaguely resemble a plastic container after you've stored spaghetti sauce leftovers in, and it's pretty disheartening.
If my hull weren't 45 years old and had it's fair share of battle scars already, I'd probably be outraged.
jeffs22outrage posted 08-08-2008 09:16 PM ET (US)
C,
Bummer. I also learned the hard way with the red oxide rubbing compounds. Not only will it stain the glass but it loves to stain the rub rail track as well. All might not be lost though. Get some acetone on a white cotton rag and try giving an area a good rubbing. If it is not to set in it should clean it off. I used lacquer thinner on the rubrail and it cleaned it up as well.
vkr posted 08-08-2008 09:41 PM ET (US)
Sorry to hear about your problems. There is nothing more frustrating than investing time in something and not obtaining the desired results.
Do a search on lhg and the hull polishing process I believe he obtained from Boston Whaler. It involves the use of McGuires #44 (I believe), 3M Finesse-It II, and Colonite wax. This is the process you should try and use.
Good Luck,
phatwhaler posted 08-08-2008 11:48 PM ET (US)
You can buy all that expensive stuff mentioned above or you can buy a can of aqua-buff 2000. You're going to need a variable speed polisher and a wool pad. AB is the deal. It's cheap works great and is easy to use.
cohasett73 posted 08-09-2008 09:14 AM ET (US)
You might wat to try Morton rust raise if in fact the red is iron oxide.
Tom from Rubicon
ouachita posted 08-09-2008 11:02 AM ET (US)
My can of compound specifically says not to allow it to dry and to do small areas at a time. It dries and can stain quickly.
Spectrum recommends white rubbing compound but I can't find that in my area.
I wash thoughroughly with water and a rag when using the turtle wax compound.
cgodfrey posted 08-09-2008 01:18 PM ET (US)
My can of Turtle Wax says to test in inconspicuous area, apply with damp rag, remove excess, let dry, then buff off with clean dry rag. No warnings about staining.
Works great on my red car, however I will obviously not be using it again on my White hulled fiberglass boat.
It should be said that I got 98% of the stains off.
Most of the remaining stains are in the pre-existing scuffs and scratches (they kinda look like papercuts now) and a few larger blotches. I plan to use some MEK and harsher rust stain removers as recommended by other users.
Chris

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Author	Topic: Rubbing Compound Stains Debacle
cgodfrey	posted 08-08-2008 05:21 PM ET (US) I've had an experience with Turtle Wax brand Rubbing Compound unpleasant enough that I've decided to write about it here as a warning to others. I flipped and cleaned my old 13 hull this morning and spend several hours gently powerwashing and then scrubbing the heck out of it. I rinsed, let dry, and admired my surprisingly clean 45 year old hull. I decided I had the time and ambition to attempt to take it to the next level and polish and wax the hull as well. I applied the Turtle Wax Rubbing Compound to half of my clean, dry hull, Apply, let haze, buff off in one direction. 95 percent of the compound dried and easily buffed off without incident. To my horror, I found that the pigment in the rubbing compound (a deep copper red) left quite a bit of blotchy peach colored stains on my hull. I spent the better part of two additional hours scouring the hull again with only moderate success. Some of the stains seem to be quite deep and stubborn, despite the fact the rubbing compound was on the hull for less tan 15 minutes. Parts of my hull now vaguely resemble a plastic container after you've stored spaghetti sauce leftovers in, and it's pretty disheartening. If my hull weren't 45 years old and had it's fair share of battle scars already, I'd probably be outraged.
jeffs22outrage	posted 08-08-2008 09:16 PM ET (US) C, Bummer. I also learned the hard way with the red oxide rubbing compounds. Not only will it stain the glass but it loves to stain the rub rail track as well. All might not be lost though. Get some acetone on a white cotton rag and try giving an area a good rubbing. If it is not to set in it should clean it off. I used lacquer thinner on the rubrail and it cleaned it up as well.
vkr	posted 08-08-2008 09:41 PM ET (US) Sorry to hear about your problems. There is nothing more frustrating than investing time in something and not obtaining the desired results. Do a search on lhg and the hull polishing process I believe he obtained from Boston Whaler. It involves the use of McGuires #44 (I believe), 3M Finesse-It II, and Colonite wax. This is the process you should try and use. Good Luck,
phatwhaler	posted 08-08-2008 11:48 PM ET (US) You can buy all that expensive stuff mentioned above or you can buy a can of aqua-buff 2000. You're going to need a variable speed polisher and a wool pad. AB is the deal. It's cheap works great and is easy to use.
cohasett73	posted 08-09-2008 09:14 AM ET (US) You might wat to try Morton rust raise if in fact the red is iron oxide. Tom from Rubicon
ouachita	posted 08-09-2008 11:02 AM ET (US) My can of compound specifically says not to allow it to dry and to do small areas at a time. It dries and can stain quickly. Spectrum recommends white rubbing compound but I can't find that in my area. I wash thoughroughly with water and a rag when using the turtle wax compound.
cgodfrey	posted 08-09-2008 01:18 PM ET (US) My can of Turtle Wax says to test in inconspicuous area, apply with damp rag, remove excess, let dry, then buff off with clean dry rag. No warnings about staining. Works great on my red car, however I will obviously not be using it again on my White hulled fiberglass boat. It should be said that I got 98% of the stains off. Most of the remaining stains are in the pre-existing scuffs and scratches (they kinda look like papercuts now) and a few larger blotches. I plan to use some MEK and harsher rust stain removers as recommended by other users. Chris