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Nauset1965 posted 09-26-2008 03:36 PM ET (US)
I just picked up a 1965 Nauset and would like to restore it, but I don't know if it is worth the investment. How can I figure that out?

Nauset1965 posted 09-26-2008 03:55 PM ET (US)
It is hull # 33231, pictures are here. Comments welcome.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nauset1965/
JMARTIN posted 09-26-2008 04:59 PM ET (US)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nauset1965/
It all depends on how much your time is worth. Is that wood OK under the paint? Is that rub rail OK? Can you bring the shine back? I think you can, go for it. John
floatinghat posted 09-26-2008 05:08 PM ET (US)

The ultimate answer is up to you, what is worth? Are you looking to sell it next year after some type of resto or are you planning on keeping it for years?
Restoration has a different meaning to almost everyone. To me it means bringing back to original condition, using NOS parts , finishes, and engine all needs to be correct for the period and vessel.
That is why I did not restore my Montauk, I am fixing things.
andygere posted 09-26-2008 06:40 PM ET (US)

quote:
I don't know if it is worth the investment. How can I figure that out?
How much money do you have to spend on the project?
In all seriousness, the boat looks fairly original, except for the white paint and missing seatback. I would not attempt to remove the paint from the console, seat and anchor locker cover. I would do one of two things: Use them as patterns (along with diagrams available from members of this forum) to make reproduction pieces; or purchase new reproduction furniture and install it. Here is at least one source for these components: http://www.nauticallumber.com/
If the gelcoat is in decent shape, it can often be brought back to a nice finish with cleaning, wet sanding and polishing. Small holes and cracks may be repaired with color matched gelcoat patch paste from Spectrum Color http://www.spectrumcolor.com/ If it's heavily cracked and oxidized, you may need to either repair and re-gelcoat it or repair and paint it. There are dozens of articles on all of these topics in the archives, do a search on the specific information you are looking for.
So, is it worth it? Of course! There are a limited number of these classics left on earth, and you are lucky enough to own one. Go for it!
elaelap posted 09-26-2008 07:47 PM ET (US)
I've used each of my classic Whalers hard and often, so I agree with floatinghat--at this stage think 'fix' rather than 'restore.' You've got what looks like a beautiful boat there, well capable of being brought back to showroom if you've got the skill, time & money. But don't lose sight of the fact that these boats are essentially workboats, made to be used. I love seeing beautifully restored Whalers, but I enjoy more seeing them all gnarly and salty, pounding into the stuff well offshore, maybe with some fish blood dripping out of their splashwell thru-hulls, rather than sitting all shiny and glistening on a trailer in a garage month after month. So my advice is fix (or restore) to your own aesthetic level of satisfaction, slowly and carefully, but have lots of fun along the way.
Nice boat! And welcome to this website.
Tony
Tom Hemphill posted 09-26-2008 08:13 PM ET (US)
I'm in agreement with previous opinions given here, especially what elaelap (Tony) said. If that is your child visible in one of the pictures, all the more reason to use the boat now and worry about cosmetics as time permits. Given its largely original condition, it might be a good candidate for restoration in the future.
gcl posted 09-27-2008 09:47 PM ET (US)
I suggest you clean/wax the hull and put a fresh coat of quality marine paint on the console and trim; then use her. That's what I did with my 1971 Nauset, and I have been loving using her for the past five seasons. She well-seasoned, but still turns heads. More importantly, she is a fine, safe platform for my cruising and fishing adventures.
Nauset1965 posted 09-28-2008 01:29 PM ET (US)
Thanks everyone, the feedback is great, and I have a couple of questions:
I certainly plan to use her as often as possible, fishing, beach, cruising, whatever... I don't plan on letting the project get in the way of usage.
So, I think I am "fixing" her. I want her to look good, but be functional, this is my boat, I use my boats! I plan on getting a new console and seat from the site posted by andygere, thanks! I am having it looked over by a fiberglass guy at the marina near me, I may have some wet wood in in the transom, nit sure, everything else seems good.
So I do plan to take my time, and plan on spending some money, so hopefully I can get her to look very good, as close to original as possible while still being very usable for the things I want to do.
A couple of questions if anyone can help:
- I've added some pictures of a console seat, but have not seen t his on any other Nauset. Is this original? http://www.flickr.com/photos/nauset1965/
- Does anyone know of Metan Marine in Rockland, MA? http://www.metanmarine.com/
Interesting it's in Rockland, maybe they have some of the old Whaler guys. I live about 3 towns away from Rockland, the old plant is a Home Depot... You used to be able to smell the fiberglass resin from the highway when they made boats there...
Thanks again!

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Author	Topic: 1965 Nauset - How do I know if it is worth restoring?
Nauset1965	posted 09-26-2008 03:36 PM ET (US) I just picked up a 1965 Nauset and would like to restore it, but I don't know if it is worth the investment. How can I figure that out?
Nauset1965	posted 09-26-2008 03:55 PM ET (US) It is hull # 33231, pictures are here. Comments welcome. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nauset1965/
JMARTIN	posted 09-26-2008 04:59 PM ET (US) http://www.flickr.com/photos/nauset1965/ It all depends on how much your time is worth. Is that wood OK under the paint? Is that rub rail OK? Can you bring the shine back? I think you can, go for it. John
floatinghat	posted 09-26-2008 05:08 PM ET (US) The ultimate answer is up to you, what is worth? Are you looking to sell it next year after some type of resto or are you planning on keeping it for years? Restoration has a different meaning to almost everyone. To me it means bringing back to original condition, using NOS parts , finishes, and engine all needs to be correct for the period and vessel. That is why I did not restore my Montauk, I am fixing things.
andygere	posted 09-26-2008 06:40 PM ET (US) quote: I don't know if it is worth the investment. How can I figure that out? How much money do you have to spend on the project? In all seriousness, the boat looks fairly original, except for the white paint and missing seatback. I would not attempt to remove the paint from the console, seat and anchor locker cover. I would do one of two things: Use them as patterns (along with diagrams available from members of this forum) to make reproduction pieces; or purchase new reproduction furniture and install it. Here is at least one source for these components: http://www.nauticallumber.com/ If the gelcoat is in decent shape, it can often be brought back to a nice finish with cleaning, wet sanding and polishing. Small holes and cracks may be repaired with color matched gelcoat patch paste from Spectrum Color http://www.spectrumcolor.com/ If it's heavily cracked and oxidized, you may need to either repair and re-gelcoat it or repair and paint it. There are dozens of articles on all of these topics in the archives, do a search on the specific information you are looking for. So, is it worth it? Of course! There are a limited number of these classics left on earth, and you are lucky enough to own one. Go for it!
elaelap	posted 09-26-2008 07:47 PM ET (US) I've used each of my classic Whalers hard and often, so I agree with floatinghat--at this stage think 'fix' rather than 'restore.' You've got what looks like a beautiful boat there, well capable of being brought back to showroom if you've got the skill, time & money. But don't lose sight of the fact that these boats are essentially workboats, made to be used. I love seeing beautifully restored Whalers, but I enjoy more seeing them all gnarly and salty, pounding into the stuff well offshore, maybe with some fish blood dripping out of their splashwell thru-hulls, rather than sitting all shiny and glistening on a trailer in a garage month after month. So my advice is fix (or restore) to your own aesthetic level of satisfaction, slowly and carefully, but have lots of fun along the way. Nice boat! And welcome to this website. Tony
Tom Hemphill	posted 09-26-2008 08:13 PM ET (US) I'm in agreement with previous opinions given here, especially what elaelap (Tony) said. If that is your child visible in one of the pictures, all the more reason to use the boat now and worry about cosmetics as time permits. Given its largely original condition, it might be a good candidate for restoration in the future.
gcl	posted 09-27-2008 09:47 PM ET (US) I suggest you clean/wax the hull and put a fresh coat of quality marine paint on the console and trim; then use her. That's what I did with my 1971 Nauset, and I have been loving using her for the past five seasons. She well-seasoned, but still turns heads. More importantly, she is a fine, safe platform for my cruising and fishing adventures.
Nauset1965	posted 09-28-2008 01:29 PM ET (US) Thanks everyone, the feedback is great, and I have a couple of questions: I certainly plan to use her as often as possible, fishing, beach, cruising, whatever... I don't plan on letting the project get in the way of usage. So, I think I am "fixing" her. I want her to look good, but be functional, this is my boat, I use my boats! I plan on getting a new console and seat from the site posted by andygere, thanks! I am having it looked over by a fiberglass guy at the marina near me, I may have some wet wood in in the transom, nit sure, everything else seems good. So I do plan to take my time, and plan on spending some money, so hopefully I can get her to look very good, as close to original as possible while still being very usable for the things I want to do. A couple of questions if anyone can help: - I've added some pictures of a console seat, but have not seen t his on any other Nauset. Is this original? http://www.flickr.com/photos/nauset1965/ - Does anyone know of Metan Marine in Rockland, MA? http://www.metanmarine.com/ Interesting it's in Rockland, maybe they have some of the old Whaler guys. I live about 3 towns away from Rockland, the old plant is a Home Depot... You used to be able to smell the fiberglass resin from the highway when they made boats there... Thanks again!