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Cox Trailer: They Don't Make Them Like This Any More
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posted 01-13-2009 01:36 PM ET (US)
My original 1982 Cox trailer under my 13' Whaler just had a refurb done a month ago. We were taking it to the Keys and the original axle and springs looked a tad weary for the trip. Any hoot I replaced the whole setup for $200 and 2 hours of my time and she is good for another 27 years. Is Cox still in business? Supposedly they were comparable in quality to Holsclaw, and, after looking this over a few weeks ago, they certainly do not make them like this anymore. Not a spot of rust, and, yes, you can actually stand on the fenders; good for short people so they can put in the plug before launching. I looked on-line but the only Cox trailers were the business name and they make like horse and cargo trailers, no boats. Did semi-crap companies like Continental and Karavan put these good quality guys out of business? Did Elvis really die?
posted 01-13-2009 02:21 PM ET (US)
I've had two galvanized tilting keel roller/bunk Cox trailers under two Whalers, one under my first 18 Outrage and the second under my 15 SuperSport. Both were at least 20 years old when I sold them with the Whalers and neither had a speck of rust on the frame. They were built to last and of at least the quality, if not better quality, than Holsclaw.
I believe that Cox went out of business in the early 1990s, probably as a result of Congress' brilliant Luxury Tax which did much damage to the boating industry at that time. None of the galvanized trailer offerings today are nearly as good.
posted 01-13-2009 02:27 PM ET (US)
Been towing on a 1990 "semi-crap" Karavan for 15 years, no real complaints, yes, there probably were or are some higher quality trailer manufactures out there but I beleive it's more about how a trailer is sized for the boat, set up and cared for.
posted 01-13-2009 04:30 PM ET (US)
Hey guys why the aluminum trailer bashing? I've used aluminum Continentals for many years. I weigh a couple a bucks and stand on the fenders on mine and load gear all the time. With the stainless steel package and torsion axel(s), They've performed admirably for years. I'm wondering how your "up north" freshwater only, used 4-6 months a year, tailers would hold up in South Florida where we are lucky enough to be able to boat salt and fresh 365 days a year.( mostly salt for me) Am sure some of the older tailers are well built but so are some of todays offerings. Lastly, like our beloved Whalers, taking care of and maintaining our trailers goese along way towards the "Mine was 20 years old and looked like new, not a speck of rust" comments. Thanks for letting me vent,I just get really tired of hearing how great things USED to be built and not the benefits of how some things have evolved and improved.
posted 01-14-2009 12:22 PM ET (US)
Nobody mentioned aluminum trailers. This is about galvanized trailers which Continental offers at basement prices because they are pretty much junk. Their alum trailers are not in the same league.
My bud has a continental galv trailer that is a 2001 and basically has maybe another 5 years in it. Fenders broke off, frame starting to rust, a real POS. I had a Karavan, not a bad trailer but what I hear about the new ones is they are semi-junk as well. I own a Performance galv trailer and I will say it is a step up from Continental but it is no match for the Cox or any alum trailer made....hence why the $2000 price for a 20-22ft tandem.
posted 01-14-2009 07:20 PM ET (US)
I may have jumped before I was bit.
posted 01-14-2009 10:50 PM ET (US)
I had a Cox trailer under a 18 foot Hobie Cat I purchased around 5 year ago. The guy I purchased it from did not have a title for the trailer. I figured I'd just contact Cox Trailers, provide some figures of the identification sticker and they would be able to provide some information on how I go about getting a replacement title issued. Seeing so many Cox trailers at the marina in Cape May NJ I figured they must still be in business. I searched the web and came up empty. Ultimately I ended up going the homemade trailer route where you provide about 4-6 pictures of the trailer to a PA Department of Motor Vehicles trailer inspection shop along with receipts for materials used to build it and they will issue a title. I believe the only receipt I provided was for replacement trailer lights. It was quite a hassle.
posted 01-15-2009 07:45 AM ET (US)
I had a Cox trailer for my 16 foot Duranautic in 1983, both brand new. Seemed bulletproof for my intended uses then, and I've not heard this manufacturers name since.
posted 01-15-2009 11:00 AM ET (US)
Here is my 24 year Cox trailer, sorry it's not a BW boat. I just changed the coupler it had a 1 7/8" so I changed to a 2" and needed to drill a new hole though the frame. Burned two brand new high-speed bits drilling into that bad boy. Trailer looks great and this must have been splashed in saltwater almost 500 times during it's life.
posted 01-15-2009 11:29 AM ET (US)
I now have a high quality aluminum float-on trailer with torsion axles under my second 18 Outrage. This trailer has a wider wheel base than the Cox trailer and clearly tows behind the truck better than the Cox with its solid axle, leaf spring suspension. However, as far as launch and retrieve launch ramp flexibility is concerned, the Cox with its tilting capability had the float-on aluminum trailer beat. There are some ramps around here that I simply cannot launch with the float-on due to the ramp being constructed with an inadequate too shallow grade. Those same ramps were no problem with the Cox trailer as it was able to launch and retrieve in much shallower water. On ramps that have a proper grade that allow sufficient submersion of the trailer, the float-on aluminum trailer is ordinarily easier and faster to launch and retrieve as it requires less winch cranking than the Cox did.
In my search for a trailer for the second 18 Outrage, I was looking for a new galvanized steel bunk/keel roller trailer with a tilting frame like the Cox. None of the trailer dealers around here offered anything of the sort. Everything was a fixed frame bunk.
While I haven't seen one up close (not available in my area), in the photos that I have seen of Pacific Trailers' galvanized trailers appear to be of the same quality as Cox.
posted 01-15-2009 04:30 PM ET (US)
Cox Trailers Inc. (Grifton, N.C.) 1965 - 1997
posted 01-15-2009 04:37 PM ET (US)
12/07/2001 - ATLANTIC — Fred Cox, 85, of Atlantic died Dec. 5 at Carteret General Hospital.
A memorial service will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday at Smyrna Pentecostal Holiness Church with the Rev. Vance Harrell officiating.
He was the founder of Cox Trailers Inc. in Grifton and a member of Smyrna Pentecostal Holiness Church.
Survivors include his wife, Callie B. Cox; four sons, William F. Cox of Atlantic, L. Stephen Cox of Raleigh, David T. Cox of Blounts Creek and Gerald L. Cox of New Bern; 10 grandchildren and 11 great-grandchildren.
The family will receive friends from 7 to 8:30 tonight at the home, 112 Yaupon Lane.
Memorials may be made to the Smyrna Pentecostal Holiness Church Building Fund, 85 Hwy 70 E., Smyrna, N.C. 28579.
Arrangements are by Munden Funeral Home in Morehead City.
posted 01-15-2009 04:52 PM ET (US)
I have an "AROS" brand trailer under my 15' Sport.
It's wide, long and tows like a dream. It's also galvanized and after eight years of salt, shows no issues now that's in fresh (AZ).
AROS is a CA (West Coast) brand but I have high praises. This trailer is ROCK solid.
posted 01-15-2009 05:07 PM ET (US)
Cox Trailers, in Grifton, is was well-known in the eastern United States. Leon O. Cox and his sons started the company before the turn of the century, and they built bean and tobacco harvesters, tobacco trucks, and farm wagons. Later boat trailers were added. It was the Cox Camper, added in 1963, that made the company a household word in the recreation field. In 1967 Fred Cox, Leon's oldest son, started a marine division.
It seems there was a local scam that dragged down the company, I found this article in a local N.C. paper -
- A Greenville psychiatrist heads home after dealing his way into the world of Milken, failed S&Ls and BCCI.
Banker Kurt Lewin doesn’t mince words about Dr. P.S. Prasad a psychiatrist who gave up mending sick minds to cut slick business deals: "He was a con artist."
Nevertheless, Lewin understands why so many people were charmed by "He had this facade that he was a good ol' Christian boy," Lewin says. "When he talked with you, he wanted you to think he was so sincere and friendly. But I always knew there was more to the book than the cover."
The book on Ponnapula Sanjeeva Prasad has a convoluted, twisted plot and many chapters, the last of which has yet to be written. Operating out of Greenville, an unlikely base for an Indian-born wheeler-dealer, he spent the '80s spinning a web of complicated transactions that brought him together with some of the most controversial figures in American business, including junk-bond king Michael Milken.
They're evading angry litigants scattered across the country, including Derrick Cephas, New York's superintendent of banking, who alleges that Prasad fraudulently received $34 million in loans from BCCI -- more than any other U.S. citizen -- without any intention of paying it back. "There's so much flack here," Stubbs says, "I don't think he'll be back here tomorrow."-
posted 01-15-2009 07:45 PM ET (US)
I don't know if I would call Karavan "semi crap"; it's a galvanized trailer with leaf springs, so it already is at a severe disadvantage for lasting in saltwater use.
Comparing it to other new galvanized trailers, I can't tell any substantial differences. I don't really see that many galvanized trailers in my area anymore; generally when most folks want a good trailer, they buy an aluminum trailer/torsion spring setup.
posted 01-15-2009 09:16 PM ET (US)
They are all in a league of semi-crap trailers unfortunately. The days of a good quality galv trailer is long gone. Hence why Whaler only discounts a few hundred for the trailer on a 170 Montauk.
posted 01-17-2009 08:19 AM ET (US)
One of my former law partners was involved in the whole fiasco involving Cox Trailers and Dr. Prasad. I don't recall much about it, other than that it involved some forged loan documents, and that the only person left to pursue (all the other wrongdoers had fled the country, as I recall) was the poor lady who notarized the forged documents. I don't recall the outcome of the case, just that it involved lots of "interesting" fraud, and a whole slew of innocent victims that were left holding the bag.
posted 01-18-2009 02:16 PM ET (US)
I've never had a Cox, but I bought a Rolls Axle for my Montauk a few years ago and this thing is built like a tank. Big aluminum parts, stainless steel hubs and bolts and LED lights. It gets year-round salt only use (it's been in fresh maybe 3 or 4 times) though I do rinse it really well after each use... except for one vacation where we stored it in a hot storage unit and didn't even get to rinse the salt off between uses. So far it's holding up superbly. I had it custom sized for my Montauk (custom width) and they delivered exactly the size I requested. My only complaint is the suspension is rock solid, too stiff. Instead of springs they use a big block of rubber that is supposed to get squished, but it's the hardest rubber I've ever seen and it doesn't move. Maybe this design looked great on paper, but in the real world it's too stiff for this size trailer. Maybe airbags or torson bars would have been better. That and I did have to configure the bunks myself, it didn't come pre-adjusted to fit my boat. Otherwise I have zero complaints, a very solid trailer.
posted 01-19-2009 12:03 PM ET (US)
Rolls are a very good quality trailer. Most Alum trailers are but Rolls has an impecable reputation.
posted 07-25-2015 08:46 PM ET (US)
My thirty-year-old galvanized Cox trailer is holding up very well, despite a life of saltwater use. I think it helps that the frame is mostly c-channel formed steel, galvanized after (welded) assembly. There are few places for salt water to dwell.
posted 07-26-2015 03:05 PM ET (US)
I still have the same trailer I purchased with the boat in 1975, Horizion Galvanize C channel (same as Tom's) stolz rollers with bunks and the trailer is a break away. I have changed the springs a couple of times but never the axle. When I purchased the boat/trailer I coated the axle in 3M LPS #3, to keep it clean and rust free. I made a winch out of a truck starter and it still works like a champ as well. But, I can understand the thinking of a float on type trailer....
posted 07-28-2015 09:21 PM ET (US)
I have an all original from up north Holsclaw trailer in excellent condition sitting under my 1968 Sakonnet that I'd like to sell. I don't want to wear it out launching in salt water here in FL. Hoping some collector or serious OEMer will find interest in her.
posted 07-29-2015 07:53 PM ET (US)
Bought a 1988 15 SS in Dec 2013 that was on a 1988 Cox trailer. Thought I would sell or scrap the trailer but on closer inspection found that it was as sound as the Whaler. Changed the coupler to 2", new bunks and covers, tires & wheels, guide ons & lights and it is as good as new. My only regret is that I replaced the bearings rather than the complete hub. Spent some $ but have a better than new tow. My last two Whalers have been on Karavan trailers and the Cox is much better made. Just my opinion.
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