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ContinuousWave Whaler Moderated Discussion Areas ContinuousWave: Whaler Repairs/Mods Montauk: Location of Reinforcements; Fasteners for Mounting Leaning Post
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Author | Topic: Montauk: Location of Reinforcements; Fasteners for Mounting Leaning Post |
twista |
posted 02-15-2009 12:18 PM ET (US)
[Inquires about the location of reinforcements in the floor of a Montauk and the best technique for permanently fastening to it a leaning post which provides only four holes for screw fasteners.] |
jimh |
posted 02-15-2009 12:39 PM ET (US)
The cockpit of a Boston Whaler MONTAUK will have some embedded reinforcements. In the REFERENCE section there is an article about the 16/17-foot hull, and under the subheading "Embedded Wood" you will find a link to two diagrams which show the location of the reinforcements and the nature of them. Here is a direct hyperlink to that section of the website which provides the information you are seeking: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/ In the REFERENCE section there is a reproduction of the owner's manual for your boat. If you read the section "Hull Attachments" you will find the recommendations of Boston Whaler for attaching new accessories to the boat. Here is a direct hyperlink to that section of the website that provides the information you are seeking: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/manual9-17/hull.html Regarding fastening of seating, it generally not possible to through-bolt the seat bases or other seating supports. The usual fasteners used are just wood screws or self-tapping screws of the appropriate size. Old holes which are no longer used should be sealed so that water does not get into the wood below the deck. If adapting some new seating, be sure that the attachment point spreads the load over an appropriate area. Typically the seat bases have a wide metal plate about a foot in diameter and use eight fasteners. You should use a fastener whose size is not excessively large as there is generally not more than 1/2-inch of plywood below the deck as reinforcement. Any fastener longer than the reinforced area's thickness just goes into the foam, which provides little holding power. To augment the mechanical fasteners, you might consider a high-strength adhesive like 3M5200. If a mounting flange has only one hole, you might consider modifying it so that it has several smaller holes, allowing use of multiple fasteners instead of one big lag screw. |
jimh |
posted 02-15-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)
If you must install something in an area that lacks proper reinforcement, there are two techniques for augmenting the strength of the area: One remedy often suggested: --drill a small hole in the laminate and into the foam beneath it to a depth of about 0.5-inch --fashion a custom L-shaped auger bit from a piece of steel or a small Allen wrench, insert this bit into a drill --carefully insert the L-shaped auger into the hole and use it to bore a relief under the laminate in the foam --vacuum out the foam particles --fill the void created below the laminate with a mixture of resin and filler to create a small "puck" of material. Epoxy is often used as the resin with a high-density powder filler. Be careful not to fill the void with a mass of resin that is so large that it generates too much heat during curing and begins to melt into the foam --when the resin has cured you can obtain good holding in it with a screw. Some drill and tap the hole for best results. An alternative technique: --using a cutting tool like a Dremel tool, cut a small portion, say 3-inch by 5-inch, of the deck --lift out the cut portion of the deck, carefully prying it out of the foam --carefully carve out an area in the foam in the hull into which you will place reinforcement wood --undercut the foam under the un-cut deck by at least 0.5-inch --cut and shape three or four pieces of wood so that they fit into the area created by removing the foam --using resin and filler as an adhesive, glue the reinforcement wood into the hull interior --replace the cut out portion of the deck and glue in place with more resin and filler --fill the cut lines with resin --top coat the cut lines with gel coat resin to match the original color |
twista |
posted 02-15-2009 11:07 PM ET (US)
Well if im reading correctly,, the 1985 boat i have falls into the 17 class,, and if im reading the schematic,, the L is what section of the boat i should be concerned with so in general the area between holes on the floor is a large section that should be fine to attach to.. the post is only 38 wide si i should be fine as long as i dont go to deep into the hull and into the foam,, what is an aveerage depth of hardware used,, and should bronze be used or stainless.. thanx for the link Jim learning more about the boat each time i log on! Vic |
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