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alphams posted 09-29-2009 10:12 PM ET (US)
I'm trying to add T&T to my great running 85 hp Johnson. I can find T&T for a 1978 model. Will it fit?
Thanks for any help.
Jeff posted 09-29-2009 10:52 PM ET (US)
Yes, it should fit so long as it is an external mount unit. Here is my 1976 Newport with a 1974 Evinrude with a classic external mount TnT unit. You will need both the external bracket with the two rams and pump unit that mounts to the transom bracket along with the lift plate that mounts to the motor side of the leg bracket.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jrohlfing/1976NewportOn709#
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ 76%20Newport%20Near%20Complete/
Tohsgib posted 09-30-2009 10:32 AM ET (US)
You are better off finding a used CMC PT130 unit for about $300($500 new). This acts as a jackplate as well so if your engine is mounted in the blind holes, you can raise it up and get some much better performance. Also if the engine pukes, you can reuse or sell the unit.
brisboats posted 09-30-2009 10:40 AM ET (US)
If the unit you are looking at is the oem external mount with the prestolite pump go for it. They work great and if the engine dies you can also resell them for $300+. CMC is fine too. Your mid section should be pre tapped already for the oem install.
brian
Jeff posted 09-30-2009 08:06 PM ET (US)
Skip the CMC unit and go OEM. My boat had the CMC unit on it when I bought it. I hated it hence why there is now the OEM unit on there.
Tohsgib posted 10-01-2009 10:04 AM ET (US)
Depends. If you want PTnT and a jackplate you are now talking another $200. The CMC can do both.
alphams posted 10-01-2009 10:18 PM ET (US)
So far, I have not been able to find a used CMC or an OEM. The used OEMs are for a 78 and forward (the piston is internal to the mount). Any suggestions where to find either used?
Alphams
Jeff posted 10-01-2009 11:04 PM ET (US)
If you could live with the clunkiness of the CMC unit contact superdave_gv as I sold him my old unit and I do not think he used nor, is going to use it. If tohsgib thinks a used unit is worth 300 then you should be able to get it from him for a very fair price.
http://continuouswave.com/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio& UserName=superdave_gv
here is an image of it.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/whalerforsale/DSC_1822.jpg
Tohsgib posted 10-02-2009 11:00 AM ET (US)
I sold mine that was 2-3 years old for $300. That is what I am going by. I have seen them on CL in the $100's but not sure of condition. New I think you can get one for like $450+ shipping. Mine was not clunky...just a tad loud and maybe a bit slow compared to OEM.

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Author	Topic: Trim and Tilt for 1976 Johnson 85hp
alphams	posted 09-29-2009 10:12 PM ET (US) I'm trying to add T&T to my great running 85 hp Johnson. I can find T&T for a 1978 model. Will it fit? Thanks for any help.
Jeff	posted 09-29-2009 10:52 PM ET (US) Yes, it should fit so long as it is an external mount unit. Here is my 1976 Newport with a 1974 Evinrude with a classic external mount TnT unit. You will need both the external bracket with the two rams and pump unit that mounts to the transom bracket along with the lift plate that mounts to the motor side of the leg bracket. http://picasaweb.google.com/jrohlfing/1976NewportOn709# http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ 76%20Newport%20Near%20Complete/
Tohsgib	posted 09-30-2009 10:32 AM ET (US) You are better off finding a used CMC PT130 unit for about $300($500 new). This acts as a jackplate as well so if your engine is mounted in the blind holes, you can raise it up and get some much better performance. Also if the engine pukes, you can reuse or sell the unit.
brisboats	posted 09-30-2009 10:40 AM ET (US) If the unit you are looking at is the oem external mount with the prestolite pump go for it. They work great and if the engine dies you can also resell them for $300+. CMC is fine too. Your mid section should be pre tapped already for the oem install. brian
Jeff	posted 09-30-2009 08:06 PM ET (US) Skip the CMC unit and go OEM. My boat had the CMC unit on it when I bought it. I hated it hence why there is now the OEM unit on there.
Tohsgib	posted 10-01-2009 10:04 AM ET (US) Depends. If you want PTnT and a jackplate you are now talking another $200. The CMC can do both.
alphams	posted 10-01-2009 10:18 PM ET (US) So far, I have not been able to find a used CMC or an OEM. The used OEMs are for a 78 and forward (the piston is internal to the mount). Any suggestions where to find either used? Alphams
Jeff	posted 10-01-2009 11:04 PM ET (US) If you could live with the clunkiness of the CMC unit contact superdave_gv as I sold him my old unit and I do not think he used nor, is going to use it. If tohsgib thinks a used unit is worth 300 then you should be able to get it from him for a very fair price. http://continuouswave.com/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio& UserName=superdave_gv here is an image of it. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/whalerforsale/DSC_1822.jpg
Tohsgib	posted 10-02-2009 11:00 AM ET (US) I sold mine that was 2-3 years old for $300. That is what I am going by. I have seen them on CL in the $100's but not sure of condition. New I think you can get one for like $450+ shipping. Mine was not clunky...just a tad loud and maybe a bit slow compared to OEM.