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Ferdinando posted 12-07-2009 08:39 PM ET (US)
I have a 190 Montauk with a new E-TEC 150. I would like to install a kicker to match the E-TEC, but Evinrude does not make anything smaller than a 25-HP engine. [Solicits] suggestions or recommendation to match up [the color] of both engines. [Thanks], Fred
anthonylisske posted 12-07-2009 09:20 PM ET (US)
My recommendation would be a Yamaha high-thrust 8 or 9.9-HP. [These engines have] little weight, and the little outboards are built to push big loads slowly. I have a 1973 OUTRAGE 21, but I put a 15-HP [four-cycle auxiliary engine] on it. I did this because I run far offshore and did not want to have to mix oil and have the ability to run it off my main tank.
The little high-thrust may come in [a four-cycle] nowadays.
My 2cents
jimh posted 12-07-2009 09:26 PM ET (US)
You can match the engine color by re-painting the auxiliary engine to match the main engine. Bombardier sells the paint for the E-TEC in small spray cans. It shouldn't take more than a two or three cans to paint a small auxiliary engine. The paint is about $10 per can.
jechura posted 12-07-2009 09:47 PM ET (US)
Painted my Yamaha 15hp 5 years ago.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/jerrym4/Harbor%20Springs/ ?action=view¤t=IMG_7497.jpg
Ferdinando posted 12-08-2009 07:14 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the input, I did think about a repaint but I wanted to avoid painting a new engine if possible. I also thought about a 9.9 and that might be the way I go although I'd rather let a pro do the painting than use spray cans.
Thks,
Fred
anthonylisske posted 12-09-2009 12:15 AM ET (US)
Fred,
sorry for totally missing the point of your post, lol
Jecuras yami looks great.
Goodluck
SJUAE posted 12-10-2009 05:18 PM ET (US)
Ferdinando
I to considered painting my Yamaha 9.9 with power tilt to match my ETEC200HO on my Outrage 210, but could not bring myself to do it on a new engine and there is more greased parts on the power tilt model, making it prone to peeling if not completly degreased.
You sort of get use to it:
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/SJUAE/Kicker/DSC02155.jpg
BTW the 9.9 maybe a bit heavy for your 190 Montauk
Regards
Steve
Ferdinando posted 12-10-2009 07:14 PM ET (US)
Steve:
What size do you recommend and why. The 190 is 2,000 lbs. I had a 6 HP on my old 17 and I thought it was to small.
Thks,
Fred
SJUAE posted 12-11-2009 05:48 AM ET (US)
Ferdinando
You can see in this picture by looking at the splashwell drains the amount of list you get with the 9.9.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/SJUAE/Kicker/DSC02165.jpg
Here's a nice and simple bracket for the Merc Bigfoot FYI,
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/SJUAE/Kicker/DSCN1369.jpg
My custom one was to match the boarding platform on the starboard side.
It's more noticeable underway as there is less hull in the water, I correct it by having one trim tab down a bit further.
The 9.9 with power tilt is quite heavy at ~100lbs and pushes my 210 easily at +6mph. Which I think is its normal max displacement speed.
I got the 9.9 as there is no way I was going to lean over the back and raise it manually, access is a bit better on your 190, also my 210 with all options is quite heavy.
You may of been disappointed with your previous 6HP if it did not have a large displacement prop on.
If you don't need the electric lift I think you may be lucky and find a new (but old) Johnson 4 stroke in white or even the old 8.8 that was a bit lighter
If you search the small boat electrical Jim posted the Yam wiring diagram for me and since these pictures I have installed a proper seastar/teleflex tie-bar and the Evinrude dual binnacle
Regards
Steve
Ferdinando posted 12-11-2009 08:44 PM ET (US)
Steve:
Thks for the info.
Fred

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Author	Topic: 190 MONTAUK Auxiliary Engine
Ferdinando	posted 12-07-2009 08:39 PM ET (US) I have a 190 Montauk with a new E-TEC 150. I would like to install a kicker to match the E-TEC, but Evinrude does not make anything smaller than a 25-HP engine. [Solicits] suggestions or recommendation to match up [the color] of both engines. [Thanks], Fred
anthonylisske	posted 12-07-2009 09:20 PM ET (US) My recommendation would be a Yamaha high-thrust 8 or 9.9-HP. [These engines have] little weight, and the little outboards are built to push big loads slowly. I have a 1973 OUTRAGE 21, but I put a 15-HP [four-cycle auxiliary engine] on it. I did this because I run far offshore and did not want to have to mix oil and have the ability to run it off my main tank. The little high-thrust may come in [a four-cycle] nowadays. My 2cents
jimh	posted 12-07-2009 09:26 PM ET (US) You can match the engine color by re-painting the auxiliary engine to match the main engine. Bombardier sells the paint for the E-TEC in small spray cans. It shouldn't take more than a two or three cans to paint a small auxiliary engine. The paint is about $10 per can.
jechura	posted 12-07-2009 09:47 PM ET (US) Painted my Yamaha 15hp 5 years ago. http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/jerrym4/Harbor%20Springs/ ?action=view¤t=IMG_7497.jpg
Ferdinando	posted 12-08-2009 07:14 AM ET (US) Thanks for the input, I did think about a repaint but I wanted to avoid painting a new engine if possible. I also thought about a 9.9 and that might be the way I go although I'd rather let a pro do the painting than use spray cans. Thks, Fred
anthonylisske	posted 12-09-2009 12:15 AM ET (US) Fred, sorry for totally missing the point of your post, lol Jecuras yami looks great. Goodluck
SJUAE	posted 12-10-2009 05:18 PM ET (US) Ferdinando I to considered painting my Yamaha 9.9 with power tilt to match my ETEC200HO on my Outrage 210, but could not bring myself to do it on a new engine and there is more greased parts on the power tilt model, making it prone to peeling if not completly degreased. You sort of get use to it: http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/SJUAE/Kicker/DSC02155.jpg BTW the 9.9 maybe a bit heavy for your 190 Montauk Regards Steve
Ferdinando	posted 12-10-2009 07:14 PM ET (US) Steve: What size do you recommend and why. The 190 is 2,000 lbs. I had a 6 HP on my old 17 and I thought it was to small. Thks, Fred
SJUAE	posted 12-11-2009 05:48 AM ET (US) Ferdinando You can see in this picture by looking at the splashwell drains the amount of list you get with the 9.9. http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/SJUAE/Kicker/DSC02165.jpg Here's a nice and simple bracket for the Merc Bigfoot FYI, http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww76/SJUAE/Kicker/DSCN1369.jpg My custom one was to match the boarding platform on the starboard side. It's more noticeable underway as there is less hull in the water, I correct it by having one trim tab down a bit further. The 9.9 with power tilt is quite heavy at ~100lbs and pushes my 210 easily at +6mph. Which I think is its normal max displacement speed. I got the 9.9 as there is no way I was going to lean over the back and raise it manually, access is a bit better on your 190, also my 210 with all options is quite heavy. You may of been disappointed with your previous 6HP if it did not have a large displacement prop on. If you don't need the electric lift I think you may be lucky and find a new (but old) Johnson 4 stroke in white or even the old 8.8 that was a bit lighter If you search the small boat electrical Jim posted the Yam wiring diagram for me and since these pictures I have installed a proper seastar/teleflex tie-bar and the Evinrude dual binnacle Regards Steve
Ferdinando	posted 12-11-2009 08:44 PM ET (US) Steve: Thks for the info. Fred