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wstr75 posted 03-09-2010 10:32 PM ET (US)
[The Evinrude 70-HP four-cycle outboard was manufactured by Suzuki for Evinrude and Johnson from about 1998 to 2004. Can current Suzuki controls be used with an Evinrude motor from that epoch?]
My boat currently has c.1987 OMC controls. [To use a motor from Evinrude made in 1998 to 2004 would] mean putting new controls on the boat or extensively retrofitting components to the controls to make them compliant.
>Bill in NC

jimh posted 03-10-2010 08:54 AM ET (US)
If by "controls" you mean just the mechanical throttle and shift cables, I suspect that these can be easily converted.
If you are wondering about the electrical rigging harness, there was a sea change in rigging which occurred in the 1990's. OMC changed their electrical rigging harness connectors. Older harnesses, like the one on your c.1987 rigging, have a large red round Amphenol multi-pin connector with a rubber body. This rigging was used from 1973 to 1995. The newer rigging harnesses have several rectangular multi-pin Deutsch connectors. I believe this new rigging style is referred to as MWS rigging. It debuted in 1996, along with the introduction of the System Check gauge or System Check tachometer. The MWS rigging is still in use today.
Bombardier makes a rigging adapter harness which can be used to connect an engine with the new MWS rigging to a boat which has the old style harness. If your current rigging was in good condition and you did not want to replace it, you can continue to use it and just buy the adaptor. I believe the cost of the adaptor is less than $200.
If you have an engine sold as an Evinrude or Johnson in 1998 to 2004, its electrical harness would be likely be in the MWS rigging style.
You can find a listing of the adapter on the website SHOP.EVINRUDE.COM. I cannot give you a direct hyperlink to the listing. Follow this procedure:
--visit SHOP.EVINRUDE.COM
--select tab "PARTS"
--select "OB Accessories" drop down menu selector on left
--select "2001-2004 folder"
--select "ELECTRICAL SYSTEM" folder
--select subfolder "ENGINE CABLE ADAPTER KIT - 95 BOAT to 99 ENGINE SYSTEM CHECK"
--locate item with callout 36
--scroll to item 36 in listing
--get part number and price
I also recommend you consult with a knowledgeable dealer before ordering. Sometimes there are some subtleties about these parts that may need a bit of expert advice.
This should lead you to a diagram showing the adaptor and its retail price.
seahorse posted 03-10-2010 10:21 AM ET (US)
In addition, because the Evinrude uses their own wiring system (not Suzuki's), you will also need a warning system consisting of a buzzer and aSystem Check tachometer with the 4 warning lights or a 2" SystemCheck gauge so you have an alarm system should any malfunction occur.
Tohsgib posted 03-10-2010 11:40 AM ET (US)
Your controls will work. Suzuki controls should also work with the right cables. Newer OMC or BRP controls are your best choice and probably the cheapest. You will also need a new wiring harness that just plugs in to your new system's check tach. The horn and key depends on which control you buy. When I bought my 1999 Evinzuki 70 I went to marine surplus in Sarasota, FL(they ship) and bought a new OMC control with key and alarm for $225. Wiring harness for $69, and tach w/lights $69. This is about 1/2 of dealer cost. You can also find everything on E-bay. I also have a 2004 Johnzuki 40 that I used my old controls with and bought the harness & Tach from Marine surplus as well.
SJUAE posted 03-10-2010 02:38 PM ET (US)
BRP specifically have shift and throttle cables that will work with Suzuki or Yamaha outboards to the BRP controls, although supply is limited and dwindling.
I suggest you get these as I tried to convert my Yamaha cables with various Teleflex kits when I fitted my 9.9hp kicker to my dual BRP control which is also attached to my ETEC.
Regards
Steve
wstr75 posted 03-10-2010 09:35 PM ET (US)
Thanks to everyone for their responses.
Bill in NC

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Author	Topic: OMC Controls and Wiring Harnesses c.2000
wstr75	posted 03-09-2010 10:32 PM ET (US) [The Evinrude 70-HP four-cycle outboard was manufactured by Suzuki for Evinrude and Johnson from about 1998 to 2004. Can current Suzuki controls be used with an Evinrude motor from that epoch?] My boat currently has c.1987 OMC controls. [To use a motor from Evinrude made in 1998 to 2004 would] mean putting new controls on the boat or extensively retrofitting components to the controls to make them compliant. >Bill in NC
jimh	posted 03-10-2010 08:54 AM ET (US) If by "controls" you mean just the mechanical throttle and shift cables, I suspect that these can be easily converted. If you are wondering about the electrical rigging harness, there was a sea change in rigging which occurred in the 1990's. OMC changed their electrical rigging harness connectors. Older harnesses, like the one on your c.1987 rigging, have a large red round Amphenol multi-pin connector with a rubber body. This rigging was used from 1973 to 1995. The newer rigging harnesses have several rectangular multi-pin Deutsch connectors. I believe this new rigging style is referred to as MWS rigging. It debuted in 1996, along with the introduction of the System Check gauge or System Check tachometer. The MWS rigging is still in use today. Bombardier makes a rigging adapter harness which can be used to connect an engine with the new MWS rigging to a boat which has the old style harness. If your current rigging was in good condition and you did not want to replace it, you can continue to use it and just buy the adaptor. I believe the cost of the adaptor is less than $200. If you have an engine sold as an Evinrude or Johnson in 1998 to 2004, its electrical harness would be likely be in the MWS rigging style. You can find a listing of the adapter on the website SHOP.EVINRUDE.COM. I cannot give you a direct hyperlink to the listing. Follow this procedure: --visit SHOP.EVINRUDE.COM --select tab "PARTS" --select "OB Accessories" drop down menu selector on left --select "2001-2004 folder" --select "ELECTRICAL SYSTEM" folder --select subfolder "ENGINE CABLE ADAPTER KIT - 95 BOAT to 99 ENGINE SYSTEM CHECK" --locate item with callout 36 --scroll to item 36 in listing --get part number and price I also recommend you consult with a knowledgeable dealer before ordering. Sometimes there are some subtleties about these parts that may need a bit of expert advice. This should lead you to a diagram showing the adaptor and its retail price.
seahorse	posted 03-10-2010 10:21 AM ET (US) In addition, because the Evinrude uses their own wiring system (not Suzuki's), you will also need a warning system consisting of a buzzer and aSystem Check tachometer with the 4 warning lights or a 2" SystemCheck gauge so you have an alarm system should any malfunction occur.
Tohsgib	posted 03-10-2010 11:40 AM ET (US) Your controls will work. Suzuki controls should also work with the right cables. Newer OMC or BRP controls are your best choice and probably the cheapest. You will also need a new wiring harness that just plugs in to your new system's check tach. The horn and key depends on which control you buy. When I bought my 1999 Evinzuki 70 I went to marine surplus in Sarasota, FL(they ship) and bought a new OMC control with key and alarm for $225. Wiring harness for $69, and tach w/lights $69. This is about 1/2 of dealer cost. You can also find everything on E-bay. I also have a 2004 Johnzuki 40 that I used my old controls with and bought the harness & Tach from Marine surplus as well.
SJUAE	posted 03-10-2010 02:38 PM ET (US) BRP specifically have shift and throttle cables that will work with Suzuki or Yamaha outboards to the BRP controls, although supply is limited and dwindling. I suggest you get these as I tried to convert my Yamaha cables with various Teleflex kits when I fitted my 9.9hp kicker to my dual BRP control which is also attached to my ETEC. Regards Steve
wstr75	posted 03-10-2010 09:35 PM ET (US) Thanks to everyone for their responses. Bill in NC