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Sal A posted 11-07-2012 06:41 AM ET (US)
Hi,
I filed a claim with my insurance, but I will not be able to see the boat or travel down for a while. A National Guardsman snapped this photo of my Whaler in front of my house, where the first floow was 6 feet penetrated with storm surge.
The boat was on blocks in the front yard, but floated off. What damage might I typically incur from this boat being on pebbles? I don't have pics of damage to the 2011 175 eTec.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/Hurricane%20Sandy/ whaler1jpg.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/Hurricane%20Sandy/ SANDY2.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/Hurricane%20Sandy/ SANDY1.jpg
RevengeFamily posted 11-07-2012 07:32 AM ET (US)
Sal,
Looking at the photos, you may have dodged a bullet. Being aground is obviously never good. But the stones you have in your yard look like river wash... which are typically smooth round stones... as compared to cracked stone which is typically jagged... Then again, it really depends on how much rocking and rolling she did before she finally settled onto the ground.
Best of luck, keep us posted...
Norm
jimh posted 11-07-2012 08:16 AM ET (US)
The Boston Whaler hull is tough. Based on the pictures it is my opinion there is a good chance that any hull damage is just cosmetic.
dfmcintyre posted 11-07-2012 09:08 AM ET (US)
Sal -
I'm with Jim on this, aside from the motor, and since she's sitting on one whole side of the keel, it will be more cosmetic then structural.
Good luck - Don
Peter posted 11-07-2012 09:25 AM ET (US)
Another vote for cosmetic damage, if any. She looks like many of the boats at our local yacht club that got lifted off their blocks, appear to have drifted in the direction of the surge current into a pile and then laid down gently. Some had their motors down so the motors may have some damage to the lower units.
In your case, it appears that the boat drifted in the direction of the surge current until it made gentle contact with the house and shed. It does not appear that there was any signficant wave activity otherwise I think we would see some structural damage on the house or shed. The only thing not really visible is the motor and whether it landed in any way that put some stress on the motor bracket.
Sal A posted 11-07-2012 09:26 AM ET (US)
Thanks guys.
I am a little more worried about the house, even though I am so happy it is there. My damage is relatively light compared to the are.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/ 508normandywaterline.jpg
I get to see the house and boat next Tuesday, with an escort, and then they close the island for a few months. So whatever damage is there will stay untouched, which can't help.
To get an idea of how lucky we are, see these photos:
https://picasaweb.google.com/travisblindt/NormandyBeachHurricaneSandy#
andygere posted 11-07-2012 11:33 AM ET (US)
Sal, The boat shouldn't be harmed from just sitting on the gravel, but I'd do a careful inspection once you are able to get there to see if other floating storm debris punctured the hull skin or otherwise damaged the gelcoat. Also, look closely at the lower unit of your outboard since that may have banged against the house, fence, etc. Probably worth having the prop shaft checked out if the prop shows any sign of damage.
Glad to see your home is still standing, but I'm sure the amount of damage from the flood waters is substantial. Best to you and your neighbors in recovering.
jimh posted 11-07-2012 08:31 PM ET (US)
Pull out all the plugs in the drains if they were not already out. With the boat sitting at an odd list, there may be water trapped in the cockpit or cabin. I'd try to get that out before it turns everything into mold, mildew, and yuck.
Jerry Townsend posted 11-07-2012 10:35 PM ET (US)
Sal - I suspect (and hope) that you could only have relatively minor damage - because your boat was somewhat "sheltered" in front of your home and the one next door. That "protection" kept your boat from really moving and hitting something hard, sharp and perhaps a very concentrated impact point - like a pole, huge rock or concrete wall - and being stopped very quickly. That type of impact loading can really cause damage.
But not being able to get back in there for a few months, with winter a'coming could take a toll too.
Good luck --- Jerry/Idaho
Sal A posted 11-08-2012 03:57 AM ET (US)
Thanks everyone.
dfmcintyre posted 11-08-2012 05:37 PM ET (US)
Sal -
Between now and Tuesday, any chance of bringing with you a guy that knows how to do a quick and dirty shrink wrap?
Just thinking...
Regards - Don
Sal A posted 11-08-2012 06:42 PM ET (US)
Thanks Don,
On Tuesday we are allowed to bring one suitcase to get our most cherished valuables (by bus)- No contractors, insurance guys, or builders. I think the boat should be fine.
My home fared so much better than others. The video I have seen even from yesterday is nothing short of stunning.
I wish the homes were built like our Whalers!
Good luck to all without power and homes. My heart breaks for you all.
Over the LINE posted 11-08-2012 07:59 PM ET (US)
Make sure to use someone that knows what they are doing for the salvage operation. If it is anything like Gulf Coast hurricanes, every jackleg redneck that can will call himself a salvor and insurance companies either don't know or don't care. Also, make sure to tell your insurance company you want to keep it. They have been known to send out salvage teams in search of insured boats.
After Katrina, I had a large "DO NOT SALVAGE" sign on my sailboat and had to tell the insurance company multiple times that it was floating and did not need to be hauled away. I know a few boats that were possible OK until salvage operations started.
Lastly, I must say you seem to take being told when and how you can access your property much better than I do. I am one of the many that no longer leave for storms because we will be barred from getting back to our property to minimize damage once the storm has passed.
Sal A posted 11-08-2012 08:14 PM ET (US)
Thanks over...
I like control of property as much as the next guy. Armed military has turned away my friends by land and by boat. I'll respect them- they need o do do their jobs rebuilding infrastructure (roads, utilities, losing the new inlets crated by Sandy).
Tom W Clark posted 11-09-2012 10:36 AM ET (US)
The gravel will not do much harm. At worst, the chines may have suffered some gel coat chips which can be easily repaired.
Bulldog posted 11-09-2012 11:47 PM ET (US)
Leaving it sit for a couple months with it sitting with the drain sump high will leave some water in there, but it sounds like no option anyway, so relax and be glad you have a tough boat and apparently house also! Good luck Sal.....Jack
SpongeBob posted 11-10-2012 11:31 AM ET (US)
Sal this is just a thought but it may be possible for you to use a small jack to re-block the boat level where it sits to allow it to drain properly. I know the house and what you can bring out of it is more important but if you've got time it might be worth it. Good luck with what you find!

Jeff

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Author	Topic: Revenge 20 damage from sitting on the hard
Sal A	posted 11-07-2012 06:41 AM ET (US) Hi, I filed a claim with my insurance, but I will not be able to see the boat or travel down for a while. A National Guardsman snapped this photo of my Whaler in front of my house, where the first floow was 6 feet penetrated with storm surge. The boat was on blocks in the front yard, but floated off. What damage might I typically incur from this boat being on pebbles? I don't have pics of damage to the 2011 175 eTec. http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/Hurricane%20Sandy/ whaler1jpg.jpg http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/Hurricane%20Sandy/ SANDY2.jpg http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/Hurricane%20Sandy/ SANDY1.jpg
RevengeFamily	posted 11-07-2012 07:32 AM ET (US) Sal, Looking at the photos, you may have dodged a bullet. Being aground is obviously never good. But the stones you have in your yard look like river wash... which are typically smooth round stones... as compared to cracked stone which is typically jagged... Then again, it really depends on how much rocking and rolling she did before she finally settled onto the ground. Best of luck, keep us posted... Norm
jimh	posted 11-07-2012 08:16 AM ET (US) The Boston Whaler hull is tough. Based on the pictures it is my opinion there is a good chance that any hull damage is just cosmetic.
dfmcintyre	posted 11-07-2012 09:08 AM ET (US) Sal - I'm with Jim on this, aside from the motor, and since she's sitting on one whole side of the keel, it will be more cosmetic then structural. Good luck - Don
Peter	posted 11-07-2012 09:25 AM ET (US) Another vote for cosmetic damage, if any. She looks like many of the boats at our local yacht club that got lifted off their blocks, appear to have drifted in the direction of the surge current into a pile and then laid down gently. Some had their motors down so the motors may have some damage to the lower units. In your case, it appears that the boat drifted in the direction of the surge current until it made gentle contact with the house and shed. It does not appear that there was any signficant wave activity otherwise I think we would see some structural damage on the house or shed. The only thing not really visible is the motor and whether it landed in any way that put some stress on the motor bracket.
Sal A	posted 11-07-2012 09:26 AM ET (US) Thanks guys. I am a little more worried about the house, even though I am so happy it is there. My damage is relatively light compared to the are. http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o295/TheMaryAlice/ 508normandywaterline.jpg I get to see the house and boat next Tuesday, with an escort, and then they close the island for a few months. So whatever damage is there will stay untouched, which can't help. To get an idea of how lucky we are, see these photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/travisblindt/NormandyBeachHurricaneSandy#
andygere	posted 11-07-2012 11:33 AM ET (US) Sal, The boat shouldn't be harmed from just sitting on the gravel, but I'd do a careful inspection once you are able to get there to see if other floating storm debris punctured the hull skin or otherwise damaged the gelcoat. Also, look closely at the lower unit of your outboard since that may have banged against the house, fence, etc. Probably worth having the prop shaft checked out if the prop shows any sign of damage. Glad to see your home is still standing, but I'm sure the amount of damage from the flood waters is substantial. Best to you and your neighbors in recovering.
jimh	posted 11-07-2012 08:31 PM ET (US) Pull out all the plugs in the drains if they were not already out. With the boat sitting at an odd list, there may be water trapped in the cockpit or cabin. I'd try to get that out before it turns everything into mold, mildew, and yuck.
Jerry Townsend	posted 11-07-2012 10:35 PM ET (US) Sal - I suspect (and hope) that you could only have relatively minor damage - because your boat was somewhat "sheltered" in front of your home and the one next door. That "protection" kept your boat from really moving and hitting something hard, sharp and perhaps a very concentrated impact point - like a pole, huge rock or concrete wall - and being stopped very quickly. That type of impact loading can really cause damage. But not being able to get back in there for a few months, with winter a'coming could take a toll too. Good luck --- Jerry/Idaho
Sal A	posted 11-08-2012 03:57 AM ET (US) Thanks everyone.
dfmcintyre	posted 11-08-2012 05:37 PM ET (US) Sal - Between now and Tuesday, any chance of bringing with you a guy that knows how to do a quick and dirty shrink wrap? Just thinking... Regards - Don
Sal A	posted 11-08-2012 06:42 PM ET (US) Thanks Don, On Tuesday we are allowed to bring one suitcase to get our most cherished valuables (by bus)- No contractors, insurance guys, or builders. I think the boat should be fine. My home fared so much better than others. The video I have seen even from yesterday is nothing short of stunning. I wish the homes were built like our Whalers! Good luck to all without power and homes. My heart breaks for you all.
Over the LINE	posted 11-08-2012 07:59 PM ET (US) Make sure to use someone that knows what they are doing for the salvage operation. If it is anything like Gulf Coast hurricanes, every jackleg redneck that can will call himself a salvor and insurance companies either don't know or don't care. Also, make sure to tell your insurance company you want to keep it. They have been known to send out salvage teams in search of insured boats. After Katrina, I had a large "DO NOT SALVAGE" sign on my sailboat and had to tell the insurance company multiple times that it was floating and did not need to be hauled away. I know a few boats that were possible OK until salvage operations started. Lastly, I must say you seem to take being told when and how you can access your property much better than I do. I am one of the many that no longer leave for storms because we will be barred from getting back to our property to minimize damage once the storm has passed.
Sal A	posted 11-08-2012 08:14 PM ET (US) Thanks over... I like control of property as much as the next guy. Armed military has turned away my friends by land and by boat. I'll respect them- they need o do do their jobs rebuilding infrastructure (roads, utilities, losing the new inlets crated by Sandy).
Tom W Clark	posted 11-09-2012 10:36 AM ET (US) The gravel will not do much harm. At worst, the chines may have suffered some gel coat chips which can be easily repaired.
Bulldog	posted 11-09-2012 11:47 PM ET (US) Leaving it sit for a couple months with it sitting with the drain sump high will leave some water in there, but it sounds like no option anyway, so relax and be glad you have a tough boat and apparently house also! Good luck Sal.....Jack
SpongeBob	posted 11-10-2012 11:31 AM ET (US) Sal this is just a thought but it may be possible for you to use a small jack to re-block the boat level where it sits to allow it to drain properly. I know the house and what you can bring out of it is more important but if you've got time it might be worth it. Good luck with what you find! Jeff