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R DAVIS posted 10-30-2013 10:47 AM ET (US)
I have a 1982 Boston Whaler Sport 15. I usually launch by myself, by backing the trailer into the water, hitting the brakes, and letting it slide off the trailer (naturally a rope is attached).
The problem is, it often causes water to come back into the motor well and into the cockpit, through the two motor well drains. I can overcome that by temporarily plugging the drains, but that is a pain. I leave a plug in the bilge drain and have a bilge pump installed there to pump out any water while underway from rain etc.
I was looking on line for scuppers, and saw the Sea Choice Small Ball Type, self baling scuppers that would attach to the outside of the drains on the transom. Before drilling holes to install them however, I figured I should ask here if it's worth the effort.
Do they work, and is the black color better than the clear?
Also, how well do they stand up to the elements?
Any comments / input appreciated.
andygere posted 10-31-2013 10:59 AM ET (US)
I have been on boats with the ball type scuppers installed, and in general they do the job. I'm not sure if they'd solve the launch problem since I've not seen that in action. My one comment on them is the annoying noise they make when you are drifting or at anchor. The constant rattling sound would drive me insane. Others may have a different experience...
skred posted 10-31-2013 11:32 AM ET (US)
I replaced the factory scupper assemblies on my former 2001 Dauntless 15 with the SeaSense ball-type. Worked just fine - never noticed much noise from them.
djahncke posted 10-31-2013 02:15 PM ET (US)
I replaced the factory rubber flap style scuppers on my Dauntless 17 the SeaSense ball scupper. I have found them to be much more effect than the oem scuppers.
tedious posted 11-01-2013 07:04 AM ET (US)
Try not going in quite so deep before you hit the brakes.
I'd imagine you technique is best done only on ramps with which you're familiar.
Tim
lanlubber posted 11-01-2013 08:18 AM ET (US)
I was wondering about this myself. The boat I just bought 1986 22 Outrage just has a through hull drain in the rear well, no scupper at all. I haven't launched it yet but I would imagine I'd have the same issue. What's the recommended replacement?
Jefecinco posted 11-01-2013 08:48 AM ET (US)
In general a steep ramp will allow backflow through the scuppers onto the aft deck area. As soon as the boat is fully launched the deck will drain.
The ping pong ball device is most effective on boats such as the Dauntless which have a tendency to take water onto the aft deck at rest with anything more than a light load behind the console.
I would not install the devices just to prevent a wet aft deck after launching.
Butch
R DAVIS posted 11-10-2013 08:09 PM ET (US)
I bought the TH Marine version of the ball scuppers. The cover can be removed if necessary to clean them out, but I doubt that will ever be an issue.
They installed easily, and are quite strong and well made. I tried them out and they work perfectly. I can now launch the boat by sliding it briskly off the trailer, and can back down without taking any water through the transom well drains.
I didn't have a problem with them making any noise, when drifting or at anchor, even in heavy chop. I think part of the reason is the rake angle of the Whaler Sport 15 transom causes the balls to roll back to the rear of the scupper cone, and stay there, except when water comes in and pushes them shut. Since the drains are situated above the water line, that doesn't happen under normal conditions.
I am quite pleased with them, and wish to thank all who replied
Jamesgt727 posted 11-10-2013 10:51 PM ET (US)
The ramp I have behind the house is steep, so I push my boat in prior to it floating. My boat fills up with water so fast if I try to back it in. I have a 1987 15' sport. I will always pull it in so the boat gets wet, then push it by hand the rest of the way. No scuppers.

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Author	Topic: Scuppers
R DAVIS	posted 10-30-2013 10:47 AM ET (US) I have a 1982 Boston Whaler Sport 15. I usually launch by myself, by backing the trailer into the water, hitting the brakes, and letting it slide off the trailer (naturally a rope is attached). The problem is, it often causes water to come back into the motor well and into the cockpit, through the two motor well drains. I can overcome that by temporarily plugging the drains, but that is a pain. I leave a plug in the bilge drain and have a bilge pump installed there to pump out any water while underway from rain etc. I was looking on line for scuppers, and saw the Sea Choice Small Ball Type, self baling scuppers that would attach to the outside of the drains on the transom. Before drilling holes to install them however, I figured I should ask here if it's worth the effort. Do they work, and is the black color better than the clear? Also, how well do they stand up to the elements? Any comments / input appreciated.
andygere	posted 10-31-2013 10:59 AM ET (US) I have been on boats with the ball type scuppers installed, and in general they do the job. I'm not sure if they'd solve the launch problem since I've not seen that in action. My one comment on them is the annoying noise they make when you are drifting or at anchor. The constant rattling sound would drive me insane. Others may have a different experience...
skred	posted 10-31-2013 11:32 AM ET (US) I replaced the factory scupper assemblies on my former 2001 Dauntless 15 with the SeaSense ball-type. Worked just fine - never noticed much noise from them.
djahncke	posted 10-31-2013 02:15 PM ET (US) I replaced the factory rubber flap style scuppers on my Dauntless 17 the SeaSense ball scupper. I have found them to be much more effect than the oem scuppers.
tedious	posted 11-01-2013 07:04 AM ET (US) Try not going in quite so deep before you hit the brakes. I'd imagine you technique is best done only on ramps with which you're familiar. Tim
lanlubber	posted 11-01-2013 08:18 AM ET (US) I was wondering about this myself. The boat I just bought 1986 22 Outrage just has a through hull drain in the rear well, no scupper at all. I haven't launched it yet but I would imagine I'd have the same issue. What's the recommended replacement?
Jefecinco	posted 11-01-2013 08:48 AM ET (US) In general a steep ramp will allow backflow through the scuppers onto the aft deck area. As soon as the boat is fully launched the deck will drain. The ping pong ball device is most effective on boats such as the Dauntless which have a tendency to take water onto the aft deck at rest with anything more than a light load behind the console. I would not install the devices just to prevent a wet aft deck after launching. Butch
R DAVIS	posted 11-10-2013 08:09 PM ET (US) I bought the TH Marine version of the ball scuppers. The cover can be removed if necessary to clean them out, but I doubt that will ever be an issue. They installed easily, and are quite strong and well made. I tried them out and they work perfectly. I can now launch the boat by sliding it briskly off the trailer, and can back down without taking any water through the transom well drains. I didn't have a problem with them making any noise, when drifting or at anchor, even in heavy chop. I think part of the reason is the rake angle of the Whaler Sport 15 transom causes the balls to roll back to the rear of the scupper cone, and stay there, except when water comes in and pushes them shut. Since the drains are situated above the water line, that doesn't happen under normal conditions. I am quite pleased with them, and wish to thank all who replied
Jamesgt727	posted 11-10-2013 10:51 PM ET (US) The ramp I have behind the house is steep, so I push my boat in prior to it floating. My boat fills up with water so fast if I try to back it in. I have a 1987 15' sport. I will always pull it in so the boat gets wet, then push it by hand the rest of the way. No scuppers.