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Playing Hookey posted 02-16-2014 04:29 PM ET (US)
Greetings,
I have been searching for information regarding the attachment mechanism for the interior cabin rails in the Outrage 22 Cuddy. I have been unable to find OEM or other replacement parts nor have I seen discussions referring to them.
The rails in my boat are loosely attached and will not serve their function as they are. It seems there is a threaded machine screw with a rubber bushing or grommet material that inserts into a hole in the deck shelf. This bushing is badly frayed and the rail is not secure.
I cannot offer any photos right now due to the fact that the boat is under two feet of snow but this repair is on my spring to do list.
Does anyone know how the rails attach or a source for the parts?
Thanks,
Steve
dfmcintyre posted 02-17-2014 10:19 AM ET (US)
Steve -
I had the same problem with the rails on my 25' Revenge Cuddy. Figured out a fix, but sold her before the fix (that's one way to eliminate the problem, I guess....)
Anyways, my thought was to remove the bushing, enlarge te hole if needed fill the hole with epoxy resin with a barrel nut inserted first with the barrel slightly above the hole. If you find a longer barreled nut, you could position it so it's exposed enough to act as a spacer, holding the teak piece up from the deck.
Here's a URL for a typical barrel nut:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1014608897/ Inox_304_Stainless_Steel_Barrel_Nut.html?s=p

Another thought would be again fill with epoxy, insert a longer screw, that's been coated with silicone into the epoxy, before it sets. That way you could unscrew the screw from the hardened epoxy, place a properly sized shim or nut onto the screw, and remount.
Regards - Don
PS - Tape off the area so you don't end up with epoxy all over!
Buckda posted 02-17-2014 10:21 AM ET (US)
The machine screws go into well nuts that are in the fiberglass. You can unscrew the rail, and use a medical forceps or similar needle-nose plier tool to get the old well nuts out of the hole, and then install new ones.
Dave
Tom W Clark posted 02-17-2014 12:15 PM ET (US)
I just made the same repair to my Revenge last summer. After 25 years the Well-nuts deform and loose their grip. Just replace the Well-nuts, clean up the hardware and reinstall.
Pay close attention to the order of fender washer, finish swasher, bushing and screw.
Don't let kids grab that teak rail and yank on them; They are really only meant to retain light, soft items.
Playing Hookey posted 02-17-2014 01:13 PM ET (US)
Thanks folks,
I will see what remains of the well nuts inside the fiberglass. I suspect some are still threaded onto the bolts and others remain in the shelf.
I will send photos of the repair as the spring thaw allows.
...and Yes, I will tell the kids to be gentle.
I appreciate the responses and advice. Rest assured I will have many more questions about this (new to me) vessel and her systems.
Steve

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Author	Topic: 1989 Outrage 22 Cuddy cabin interior rails
Playing Hookey	posted 02-16-2014 04:29 PM ET (US) Greetings, I have been searching for information regarding the attachment mechanism for the interior cabin rails in the Outrage 22 Cuddy. I have been unable to find OEM or other replacement parts nor have I seen discussions referring to them. The rails in my boat are loosely attached and will not serve their function as they are. It seems there is a threaded machine screw with a rubber bushing or grommet material that inserts into a hole in the deck shelf. This bushing is badly frayed and the rail is not secure. I cannot offer any photos right now due to the fact that the boat is under two feet of snow but this repair is on my spring to do list. Does anyone know how the rails attach or a source for the parts? Thanks, Steve
dfmcintyre	posted 02-17-2014 10:19 AM ET (US) Steve - I had the same problem with the rails on my 25' Revenge Cuddy. Figured out a fix, but sold her before the fix (that's one way to eliminate the problem, I guess....) Anyways, my thought was to remove the bushing, enlarge te hole if needed fill the hole with epoxy resin with a barrel nut inserted first with the barrel slightly above the hole. If you find a longer barreled nut, you could position it so it's exposed enough to act as a spacer, holding the teak piece up from the deck. Here's a URL for a typical barrel nut: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1014608897/ Inox_304_Stainless_Steel_Barrel_Nut.html?s=p Another thought would be again fill with epoxy, insert a longer screw, that's been coated with silicone into the epoxy, before it sets. That way you could unscrew the screw from the hardened epoxy, place a properly sized shim or nut onto the screw, and remount. Regards - Don PS - Tape off the area so you don't end up with epoxy all over!
Buckda	posted 02-17-2014 10:21 AM ET (US) The machine screws go into well nuts that are in the fiberglass. You can unscrew the rail, and use a medical forceps or similar needle-nose plier tool to get the old well nuts out of the hole, and then install new ones. Dave
Tom W Clark	posted 02-17-2014 12:15 PM ET (US) I just made the same repair to my Revenge last summer. After 25 years the Well-nuts deform and loose their grip. Just replace the Well-nuts, clean up the hardware and reinstall. Pay close attention to the order of fender washer, finish swasher, bushing and screw. Don't let kids grab that teak rail and yank on them; They are really only meant to retain light, soft items.
Playing Hookey	posted 02-17-2014 01:13 PM ET (US) Thanks folks, I will see what remains of the well nuts inside the fiberglass. I suspect some are still threaded onto the bolts and others remain in the shelf. I will send photos of the repair as the spring thaw allows. ...and Yes, I will tell the kids to be gentle. I appreciate the responses and advice. Rest assured I will have many more questions about this (new to me) vessel and her systems. Steve