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hullinthewater posted 04-16-2014 11:39 AM ET (US)
Hi everyone- did a search, and it's a bit rare to find leaning post installs on a Montauk.
My query: Whats a good height for a leaning post seat on a Super-Tauk [Montauk], other than what feels comfortable for your height?
I've re-configured from the full beam 'lo' mahogany seat of the SuperSport to a 'Super-tauk' for fishing.
Installed a 35" hi console [Panga Marine: Niente Model], w/16" wheel on the 45 degree upper panel of the console. That puts the bottom of the wheel at +/- 28" from deck.
I have 3 choices in the build of the item: 28, 30, or 33"; also has a back rest and a flip up foot rest set at about 4" above deck, so it's designed for use seated or leaning.
Being 6' tall, the 33" would seem the best height for leaning, but when seated, because of height relative to wheel, I can see possibility of needing to 'hunker' forward to turn wheel, operate throttle, etc.
I'm looking for any 'rules of thumb', basic formula, or just anecdotal accounts of anyone having modified their helm seat higher, and how high?
It seems to me a 3 component fitment issue:
1. Seat height for piloting leaning
2. Seat height for piloting sitting
3. Seat offset from console or wheel for comfort from either pilot position.
I'd like to hear opinions or actual experience.
Thanks,
Joe

hullinthewater posted 04-16-2014 12:47 PM ET (US)
EDIT:
"I have 3 choices in the build HEIGHT of the item: 28, 30, or 33";..."
crabby posted 04-16-2014 05:15 PM ET (US)
Whichever height best fits your butt... Will you be leaning on it or sitting on it? If sitting, where will your feet be (on the deck or on a bar on the post or on the console)? Getting a seatback for the post?
Mock up a saw horse or something and trial it out. Everyone has a different comfort zone. I'm 6 feet tall and have adapted to a variety of seats, posts, and positions. Usually on my Montauk I am standing while running, same on the 22; when I slow down I find myself sitting. Foot steering is easy at low speeds.
On the Montauk I used to ride sitting on the back of the RPS while it was leaned forward with my feet in the open hatch on the console. Now that my dog uses the seat and I can't pull the back forward I use him as my leaning post. Even when I am allowed to sit on my raised RPS driving from that position means leaning forward which is somewhat uncomfortable. To each his own.
contender posted 04-16-2014 06:01 PM ET (US)
The crab man hit the nail on the head, everything he said is pretty much correct. If you are building a custom tower/leaning post/bench/chair you build it to fit your comfort zone and your needs. And a custom alum. welder will build to what height you want. (if they do not I would look for another welder) I custom built my own console, The way I did it was I knew I would be standing to drive. I stood in the boat put my arms up as to grap a steering wheel and had my son measure my hands to the deck, I did it about 6-8 times and that's how I got my measement. Do the same with your seat
hullinthewater posted 04-17-2014 04:12 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the words Crabby and contender; I think the saw horse prop is a good idea.
Just from my 'butt-instinct' I probably will go with a 33" height; most comfortable lean foo my height.
I tried to design something to allow 2-six gal deck tanks [side by side], with a shelf over them to fit a +/- 50-60qt cooler. That would require 30" vertical clearance fr/deck to bottom of seat frame. Problem would be access to cooler, w/out pulling it off top of fuel tank every time.
Small boats are tough this way. More research and thought is required.
hullinthewater posted 04-17-2014 04:38 PM ET (US)
EDIT:
I tried to design something to allow 2-six gal deck tanks [side by side], with a shelf over them to fit a +/- 50-60qt cooler over the tanks, and all under the seat.

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Author	Topic: Leaning Post seat height
hullinthewater	posted 04-16-2014 11:39 AM ET (US) Hi everyone- did a search, and it's a bit rare to find leaning post installs on a Montauk. My query: Whats a good height for a leaning post seat on a Super-Tauk [Montauk], other than what feels comfortable for your height? I've re-configured from the full beam 'lo' mahogany seat of the SuperSport to a 'Super-tauk' for fishing. Installed a 35" hi console [Panga Marine: Niente Model], w/16" wheel on the 45 degree upper panel of the console. That puts the bottom of the wheel at +/- 28" from deck. I have 3 choices in the build of the item: 28, 30, or 33"; also has a back rest and a flip up foot rest set at about 4" above deck, so it's designed for use seated or leaning. Being 6' tall, the 33" would seem the best height for leaning, but when seated, because of height relative to wheel, I can see possibility of needing to 'hunker' forward to turn wheel, operate throttle, etc. I'm looking for any 'rules of thumb', basic formula, or just anecdotal accounts of anyone having modified their helm seat higher, and how high? It seems to me a 3 component fitment issue: 1. Seat height for piloting leaning 2. Seat height for piloting sitting 3. Seat offset from console or wheel for comfort from either pilot position. I'd like to hear opinions or actual experience. Thanks, Joe
hullinthewater	posted 04-16-2014 12:47 PM ET (US) EDIT: "I have 3 choices in the build HEIGHT of the item: 28, 30, or 33";..."
crabby	posted 04-16-2014 05:15 PM ET (US) Whichever height best fits your butt... Will you be leaning on it or sitting on it? If sitting, where will your feet be (on the deck or on a bar on the post or on the console)? Getting a seatback for the post? Mock up a saw horse or something and trial it out. Everyone has a different comfort zone. I'm 6 feet tall and have adapted to a variety of seats, posts, and positions. Usually on my Montauk I am standing while running, same on the 22; when I slow down I find myself sitting. Foot steering is easy at low speeds. On the Montauk I used to ride sitting on the back of the RPS while it was leaned forward with my feet in the open hatch on the console. Now that my dog uses the seat and I can't pull the back forward I use him as my leaning post. Even when I am allowed to sit on my raised RPS driving from that position means leaning forward which is somewhat uncomfortable. To each his own.
contender	posted 04-16-2014 06:01 PM ET (US) The crab man hit the nail on the head, everything he said is pretty much correct. If you are building a custom tower/leaning post/bench/chair you build it to fit your comfort zone and your needs. And a custom alum. welder will build to what height you want. (if they do not I would look for another welder) I custom built my own console, The way I did it was I knew I would be standing to drive. I stood in the boat put my arms up as to grap a steering wheel and had my son measure my hands to the deck, I did it about 6-8 times and that's how I got my measement. Do the same with your seat
hullinthewater	posted 04-17-2014 04:12 PM ET (US) Thanks for the words Crabby and contender; I think the saw horse prop is a good idea. Just from my 'butt-instinct' I probably will go with a 33" height; most comfortable lean foo my height. I tried to design something to allow 2-six gal deck tanks [side by side], with a shelf over them to fit a +/- 50-60qt cooler. That would require 30" vertical clearance fr/deck to bottom of seat frame. Problem would be access to cooler, w/out pulling it off top of fuel tank every time. Small boats are tough this way. More research and thought is required.
hullinthewater	posted 04-17-2014 04:38 PM ET (US) EDIT: I tried to design something to allow 2-six gal deck tanks [side by side], with a shelf over them to fit a +/- 50-60qt cooler over the tanks, and all under the seat.