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Landlocked posted 06-19-2015 11:27 AM ET (US)
I bought my 12-year-old son a 1964 Boston Whaler 13-footer last year to use on our private pond. Most of the original wood needed replacing and the boat has been painted several times. That really didn't matter to us given its intended use. I was mainly interested in something safe and stable for him to use with a trolling motor when I was not around.
Recently after seeing several 13-footers running around Panama City, Florida, he's decided he'd like to fix it up to use down there. His vision, (gasp) includes painting the hull sides seafoam green and the bottom and interior white. Hey, it's his boat.
I've got it in the yard for him to start sanding off all the layers of paint. Once done, I'll help him patch the dings as best as we can and then help him spray it. It will a good summer project to keep him out of trouble while I'm at work.
Looking for recommendations for a decent marine paint that won't bust the budget, is fairly easy for a novice to apply, and that will last a long time.
This is not a typical restoration. We are going to remove the steering console, put in new mahogany bench seats, and install a Mercury tiller 20-HP engine I've had laying around for a few years. Also recently acquired some side railings from a SPORT 13 I believe will work. The goal would be to end up with a decent looking boat we can pull to Florida for quick trips when we don't want to fool with taking the larger Montauk and also to use on local rivers.
Appreciate any input on the process.
Ll.
Binkster posted 06-21-2015 11:20 PM ET (US)
Use Pettit Easypoxy. Its a single stage enamel that's inexpensive, looks good for 3 or 4 years and is easy to apply with brush, roller or spray. (it's not an epoxy by any means).
rich
Landlocked posted 06-22-2015 10:38 AM ET (US)
Thanks. I'll check it out. Easy is key to this project....

Ll.
Buckda posted 06-22-2015 01:59 PM ET (US)
I've used the EasyPoxy paint on an old boat that I restored and gave to my brother. It scratches fairly easily, but after 6 or 7 years in Alabama (under an open sided carport) the color (dark green) still looked good.
If I were to do it again, I'd put 3 or 4 coats on the boat and then wetsand and polish it out as you could still see brush marks if you got closer than a few feet. Looked good on the water though, and got a lot of compliments.
Landlocked posted 06-22-2015 04:47 PM ET (US)
I'm going to try and spray it. Etched and painted an old aluminum boat for my dad with auto paint and spray gun 20 years ago and it came out great. Actually still looks good. I think all I need is a water separator for my compressor.... Spraying will allow me to build up several thin coats..
Will look at thinning ratios etc. for the easypoxy. I appreciate the recommendation.
Ll.
Buckda posted 06-22-2015 06:38 PM ET (US)
If you're spraying, consider going with the more premium paints such as AwlCraft 2000. Much better results if you already have the skills from previous jobs.
Landlocked posted 06-23-2015 09:49 AM ET (US)
Looks like the Awlgrip has the seafoam color he's looking for. Easypoxy does not. Thanks!
This is going to be a fun project.
C.
Binkster posted 06-23-2015 02:28 PM ET (US)
Awlgrip 2000 might take the "fun" out o the job. It is very expensive, needs to be primed with 545 epoxy primer, work inside with a good ventilation system. unlike regular Awlgrip, 2000 can be sanded and polished. I would stick with Easypoxy for the project you have in mind. All Awlgip paints have a very high gloss and show up any inperfection.
rich
Landlocked posted 06-23-2015 02:55 PM ET (US)
Unfortunately, the only inside I had (my shop) burned down a few years ago. This may get more complicated than I anticipated. I do have one of those big storage tents. Perhaps I could leave the flap open in the eaves and hang my big fan up there blowing out. Wouldn't do anything to control humidity but should keep dust and particles to a minimum. Imperfections - got a lot of those on this boat. Not sure I can address them adequately. I'll put a little more thought into it.
Thanks guys.
C.
Binkster posted 06-24-2015 02:38 PM ET (US)
I sprayed with Awlgrip an 18' bass boat inside a 20 x 20 foot screen room that I bought for that purpose a few years ago. I laid plywood on the ground and covered it with a plastic tarp. On the 4 sides I tied plastic clear visqueen. On one side I cut a hole for an exhaust fan and the opposite side I cut an inlet hole. Last year I sprayed the interior of my 15 footer with color matched Desert Sand Awlgrip inside my 2 car garage. I tacked clear visqueen to the walls, left the door open with an exhaust fan. I use a good resporator, and wear a paint hood, long sleeves, long paints. The jobs came out good, but the prep work took the fun out of it.
About 15 years ago I painted a 16 foot plywood cabin sailboat belonging to my daughter with Easypoxy using a fine roller and a good bristle brush, (roll and tip). It came out looking like a spray job. I painted the hull dark green and the deck and cabin a cream color. I also did that one in my garage with no prep to the garage. Now that was a fun job.
rich
Landlocked posted 06-24-2015 03:19 PM ET (US)
Point well taken. I got the grand idea a few years ago of removing asbestos siding from a 1904 Victorian and sanding the original lap-board siding and gingerbread down to bare wood and restoring. Came out great but the prep work (and year and a half of my life I lost) definitely took the fun out of it.
We'll see how the hull restoration goes and make a decision afterward. Hard to look at it now and see the diamond under the "just plain rough".
Ll.

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Author	Topic: Painting 13-footer
Landlocked	posted 06-19-2015 11:27 AM ET (US) I bought my 12-year-old son a 1964 Boston Whaler 13-footer last year to use on our private pond. Most of the original wood needed replacing and the boat has been painted several times. That really didn't matter to us given its intended use. I was mainly interested in something safe and stable for him to use with a trolling motor when I was not around. Recently after seeing several 13-footers running around Panama City, Florida, he's decided he'd like to fix it up to use down there. His vision, (gasp) includes painting the hull sides seafoam green and the bottom and interior white. Hey, it's his boat. I've got it in the yard for him to start sanding off all the layers of paint. Once done, I'll help him patch the dings as best as we can and then help him spray it. It will a good summer project to keep him out of trouble while I'm at work. Looking for recommendations for a decent marine paint that won't bust the budget, is fairly easy for a novice to apply, and that will last a long time. This is not a typical restoration. We are going to remove the steering console, put in new mahogany bench seats, and install a Mercury tiller 20-HP engine I've had laying around for a few years. Also recently acquired some side railings from a SPORT 13 I believe will work. The goal would be to end up with a decent looking boat we can pull to Florida for quick trips when we don't want to fool with taking the larger Montauk and also to use on local rivers. Appreciate any input on the process. Ll.
Binkster	posted 06-21-2015 11:20 PM ET (US) Use Pettit Easypoxy. Its a single stage enamel that's inexpensive, looks good for 3 or 4 years and is easy to apply with brush, roller or spray. (it's not an epoxy by any means). rich
Landlocked	posted 06-22-2015 10:38 AM ET (US) Thanks. I'll check it out. Easy is key to this project.... Ll.
Buckda	posted 06-22-2015 01:59 PM ET (US) I've used the EasyPoxy paint on an old boat that I restored and gave to my brother. It scratches fairly easily, but after 6 or 7 years in Alabama (under an open sided carport) the color (dark green) still looked good. If I were to do it again, I'd put 3 or 4 coats on the boat and then wetsand and polish it out as you could still see brush marks if you got closer than a few feet. Looked good on the water though, and got a lot of compliments.
Landlocked	posted 06-22-2015 04:47 PM ET (US) I'm going to try and spray it. Etched and painted an old aluminum boat for my dad with auto paint and spray gun 20 years ago and it came out great. Actually still looks good. I think all I need is a water separator for my compressor.... Spraying will allow me to build up several thin coats.. Will look at thinning ratios etc. for the easypoxy. I appreciate the recommendation. Ll.
Buckda	posted 06-22-2015 06:38 PM ET (US) If you're spraying, consider going with the more premium paints such as AwlCraft 2000. Much better results if you already have the skills from previous jobs.
Landlocked	posted 06-23-2015 09:49 AM ET (US) Looks like the Awlgrip has the seafoam color he's looking for. Easypoxy does not. Thanks! This is going to be a fun project. C.
Binkster	posted 06-23-2015 02:28 PM ET (US) Awlgrip 2000 might take the "fun" out o the job. It is very expensive, needs to be primed with 545 epoxy primer, work inside with a good ventilation system. unlike regular Awlgrip, 2000 can be sanded and polished. I would stick with Easypoxy for the project you have in mind. All Awlgip paints have a very high gloss and show up any inperfection. rich
Landlocked	posted 06-23-2015 02:55 PM ET (US) Unfortunately, the only inside I had (my shop) burned down a few years ago. This may get more complicated than I anticipated. I do have one of those big storage tents. Perhaps I could leave the flap open in the eaves and hang my big fan up there blowing out. Wouldn't do anything to control humidity but should keep dust and particles to a minimum. Imperfections - got a lot of those on this boat. Not sure I can address them adequately. I'll put a little more thought into it. Thanks guys. C.
Binkster	posted 06-24-2015 02:38 PM ET (US) I sprayed with Awlgrip an 18' bass boat inside a 20 x 20 foot screen room that I bought for that purpose a few years ago. I laid plywood on the ground and covered it with a plastic tarp. On the 4 sides I tied plastic clear visqueen. On one side I cut a hole for an exhaust fan and the opposite side I cut an inlet hole. Last year I sprayed the interior of my 15 footer with color matched Desert Sand Awlgrip inside my 2 car garage. I tacked clear visqueen to the walls, left the door open with an exhaust fan. I use a good resporator, and wear a paint hood, long sleeves, long paints. The jobs came out good, but the prep work took the fun out of it. About 15 years ago I painted a 16 foot plywood cabin sailboat belonging to my daughter with Easypoxy using a fine roller and a good bristle brush, (roll and tip). It came out looking like a spray job. I painted the hull dark green and the deck and cabin a cream color. I also did that one in my garage with no prep to the garage. Now that was a fun job. rich
Landlocked	posted 06-24-2015 03:19 PM ET (US) Point well taken. I got the grand idea a few years ago of removing asbestos siding from a 1904 Victorian and sanding the original lap-board siding and gingerbread down to bare wood and restoring. Came out great but the prep work (and year and a half of my life I lost) definitely took the fun out of it. We'll see how the hull restoration goes and make a decision afterward. Hard to look at it now and see the diamond under the "just plain rough". Ll.