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PeteB88 posted 07-07-2015 12:51 AM ET (US)
My [1995] Outrage 17 steering has always seemed sloppy--not sure how else to describe it. Not sure how to troubleshoot. I believe it to be original to the boat. There is no apparent binding and the steering seems to work fine. There just seems to be a lot of play in the wheel before the outboard moves. Any advice?
jimh posted 07-07-2015 02:38 AM ET (US)
What kind of steering? Mechanical or hydraulic?
PeteB88 posted 07-07-2015 11:15 PM ET (US)
I'm pretty sure it's mechanical. Original to the boat. How do I determine? Thanks
PeteB88 posted 07-08-2015 02:18 PM ET (US)
Doesn't look like hydraulic lines
PeteB88 posted 07-09-2015 10:35 PM ET (US)
No one has any clue of what causes major slop in my OEM steering on Outrage 17?
Jeff posted 07-09-2015 11:22 PM ET (US)
If it's mechanical, you could replace your cable, if that does not fix it, replace your helm.
Or, just install a hydraulic steering system.
PeteB88 posted 07-09-2015 11:35 PM ET (US)
Any hydraulic system?
Jeff posted 07-10-2015 10:43 AM ET (US)
Pete--if you go with hydraulic you want the Telefax Bay Star System
http://www.starmarinedepot.com/teleflex-hk4200-baystar-compact-steering.html
If you want to stay with mechanical, you want a TeleFlex No Feedback System. I am guessing you would need the 18' Cable. But I measure your existing one to be sure.
http://www.starmarinedepot.com/ teleflex-ssx176-steering-system-xtreme-nfb-mechanical-18%27.html
My vote is to move to hydraulic if you can afford it.
PeteB88 posted 07-10-2015 01:05 PM ET (US)
It's not about afford it's about how much I want to spend. Thanks for all the information.
tedious posted 07-10-2015 03:08 PM ET (US)
Pete, you need to find the source of the slop. It could even be a safety issue - something loose and getting ready to fall off. Check where the steering arm connects to motor, and where the cable connects to the steering arm.
Assuming the slop is in the cable or helm, you could try replacing just the cable, but you may be better off just replacing the helm and getting a new cable to go with it. The mechanical steering setup is not terribly expensive, and after 20 years, the original doesn't owe you anything. I would not go to the expense and potential maintenance hassle of a hydraulic system unless the steering effort with your existing setup is excessive.
Tim
PeteB88 posted 07-10-2015 03:20 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tim!! - will get on it.
porthole2 posted 07-14-2015 02:21 AM ET (US)
If I was going to keep my 1997 17 Outrage the steering was going to be replaced. The difference for upgrading to hydraulic was about $330 additional. For me it is a worthwhile upgrade. Once you start getting over 90-100 horsepower, hydraulic steering really shines. Especial she the boat weight starts to creep up. For a 17 footer, the Outrage is heavy.
RMS posted 07-19-2015 12:07 PM ET (US)
Pete, After 20 years of use I would not be surprised that a Teleflex cable has some slop in it. I have a 1993 Outrage 17 and replaced the helm and cable with an NFB unit a couple years ago. Bob
PeteB88 posted 07-19-2015 04:08 PM ET (US)
Thanks - gonna dig into it next couple of days. Best

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Author	Topic: 1995 OUTRAGE 17 Steering
PeteB88	posted 07-07-2015 12:51 AM ET (US) My [1995] Outrage 17 steering has always seemed sloppy--not sure how else to describe it. Not sure how to troubleshoot. I believe it to be original to the boat. There is no apparent binding and the steering seems to work fine. There just seems to be a lot of play in the wheel before the outboard moves. Any advice?
jimh	posted 07-07-2015 02:38 AM ET (US) What kind of steering? Mechanical or hydraulic?
PeteB88	posted 07-07-2015 11:15 PM ET (US) I'm pretty sure it's mechanical. Original to the boat. How do I determine? Thanks
PeteB88	posted 07-08-2015 02:18 PM ET (US) Doesn't look like hydraulic lines
PeteB88	posted 07-09-2015 10:35 PM ET (US) No one has any clue of what causes major slop in my OEM steering on Outrage 17?
Jeff	posted 07-09-2015 11:22 PM ET (US) If it's mechanical, you could replace your cable, if that does not fix it, replace your helm. Or, just install a hydraulic steering system.
PeteB88	posted 07-09-2015 11:35 PM ET (US) Any hydraulic system?
Jeff	posted 07-10-2015 10:43 AM ET (US) Pete--if you go with hydraulic you want the Telefax Bay Star System http://www.starmarinedepot.com/teleflex-hk4200-baystar-compact-steering.html If you want to stay with mechanical, you want a TeleFlex No Feedback System. I am guessing you would need the 18' Cable. But I measure your existing one to be sure. http://www.starmarinedepot.com/ teleflex-ssx176-steering-system-xtreme-nfb-mechanical-18%27.html My vote is to move to hydraulic if you can afford it.
PeteB88	posted 07-10-2015 01:05 PM ET (US) It's not about afford it's about how much I want to spend. Thanks for all the information.
tedious	posted 07-10-2015 03:08 PM ET (US) Pete, you need to find the source of the slop. It could even be a safety issue - something loose and getting ready to fall off. Check where the steering arm connects to motor, and where the cable connects to the steering arm. Assuming the slop is in the cable or helm, you could try replacing just the cable, but you may be better off just replacing the helm and getting a new cable to go with it. The mechanical steering setup is not terribly expensive, and after 20 years, the original doesn't owe you anything. I would not go to the expense and potential maintenance hassle of a hydraulic system unless the steering effort with your existing setup is excessive. Tim
PeteB88	posted 07-10-2015 03:20 PM ET (US) Thanks Tim!! - will get on it.
porthole2	posted 07-14-2015 02:21 AM ET (US) If I was going to keep my 1997 17 Outrage the steering was going to be replaced. The difference for upgrading to hydraulic was about $330 additional. For me it is a worthwhile upgrade. Once you start getting over 90-100 horsepower, hydraulic steering really shines. Especial she the boat weight starts to creep up. For a 17 footer, the Outrage is heavy.
RMS	posted 07-19-2015 12:07 PM ET (US) Pete, After 20 years of use I would not be surprised that a Teleflex cable has some slop in it. I have a 1993 Outrage 17 and replaced the helm and cable with an NFB unit a couple years ago. Bob
PeteB88	posted 07-19-2015 04:08 PM ET (US) Thanks - gonna dig into it next couple of days. Best