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floater88 posted 08-04-2015 06:41 AM ET (US)   Profile for floater88   Send Email to floater88  
I'm finding it difficult to find the same size tires and rims for my trailer. I currently have 215-75R14 Load Range C tires. I'm noticing squishing of the side walls when towing. Air pressure is set to just under maximum. I'd like to get some new tires as I am planning on some highway trips and these tires are from 1996. What other size of tires could I get? I have about two-inches of room under the fenders with this size.
Jefecinco posted 08-04-2015 08:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Tire Rack: Goodyear Marathons $85.58 for your exact replacement tire. Try a Bing search for several others.

Butch

jimh posted 08-04-2015 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
While not an expert, I believe the tire size notation is as follows. For the example

215 75R14

the interpretation is

215 = width of tire

75 = profile of tire

R = radial

14 = wheel size

You can find fatter or thinner tires, such as

205 75R14
225 75R14

Or tires with a different profile, such as

205 70R14
215 70R14
225 70R14

Or tires with bias belts instead of radial belts

215 75D14

The size you presently have seems to be a very common size in boat trailer tires. My experience is that trailer tires are not kept in stock at local stores and often have to be ordered from a regional distributor by the local store.

contender posted 08-04-2015 01:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
jim is correct about the tire sizing, 215 width, 75 height, 14 rim size...If you want a taller tire try to fine something like a 225 80/85 R14...letters on the tires tell you that they aree a radial and look at the smaller letter for the load. I think trailer tires should be a c or d load....
Marko888 posted 08-04-2015 02:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Marko888    
I bought the Goodyear Marathons in 215/75 R14 C in 2013 and would suggest trying a different brand as I'm not that happy with them. They're made in China, run quite hot (in the PNW) and even when inflated to 50 psi there is a lot of sidewall flex and bounce. I've weighed my Outrage 18 and trailer and the total axle weight was 2750 pounds.

They are cheap, but I got what I paid for. I will try a different brand next and will also go for load range D.

Jefecinco posted 08-04-2015 04:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Due to their construction radial tires by design have more sidewall flex than do bias tires. Some think this is a good thing as it provides a softer ride to the load. I agree this can be a good thing as long as the tire rating is not exceeded.

Goodyear Marathons tend to get mixed reviews.

I personally change to radial LT (light truck) tires as soon as the first replacement set is due if my size requirement is available. My reasoning is that LT tires are superior in almost every respect to trailer tires.

Butch

Ridge Runner posted 08-04-2015 11:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ridge Runner  Send Email to Ridge Runner     
I have had excellent results towing long distances (NJ to FL - 4 times a year) with Kumho Radial 875's. The are one of the only D load rated and 99 MHP speed rated tire.

Kumho does not use the publish conventional profile sizing so you would have to measure the sidewall of your current tires.

Here is the spec -
Tire Size - 205R14C
Ply Rating / Load Range - 8/D
Rim STD (inch) - 5.50
Rim APP (inch) – 6.50
Overall Dia (inch) – 27.0
Section Width (inch) – 8.2
Static Load Radius – 12.5
Max Load (lbs.) @ Cold Inflation Pressure (psi) Single – 2,271lbs @65 psi
RPM - 774
Tire Weight – 27lbs

The D load rating will have stiffer sidewalls.
You can purchase them from tirerack.com at ~$129.00 per tire.

floater88 posted 08-05-2015 12:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for floater88  Send Email to floater88     
Great info. I was thinking of going with truck tires as an upgrade because my trailer has only one axle and the Revenge 20 wt, with all my salmon tackle onboard including a 15 hp kicker and two batteies, adds up the weight. Thanks
EJO posted 08-07-2015 01:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for EJO  Send Email to EJO     
There are I think two good trailer parts and tire supply companies on the net that can fill your request from stock. An LT type will do fine. Radials have more side wall flex. Do you need the wall height and profile of 75? A lower profile height will automatically give you less flex. Most performance car tires don't have 75 profiles but more likely 60 or less. If you have not bought any tires, look at http://www.easternmarine.com/Heavy-Duty-LT-Truck-Trailer-Tires-Only/ or http://recstuff.com/14-Inch-Trailer-Tires.aspx
Good luck.
deepwater posted 08-08-2015 01:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
What do you have on the trailer?
jimh posted 08-08-2015 07:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I think my trailer has 14-inch radial tires. I can't recall the width and profile.
mb159 posted 08-14-2015 02:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for mb159  Send Email to mb159     
X 2 on the Goodyear Marathons.. just had to replace older tire that shredded a fender when it blew. Marathon is a steel belted tire that actually runs cooler than bias ply. VERY happy with them
Don SSDD posted 08-16-2015 07:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Don SSDD    
215 is the width in MM
75 is the height of the rubber as a percentage of the width.
14 is the rim size in inches.

Using those numbers, you can calculate the height of the tire by converting the 215 MM to inches= 8.46 x 0.75=6.345 inches (X2 for the tire height twice)= 12.69 inches + rim size 14= 26.69 inches.

You can easily calculate the height of any tire using this math. You can set it up in excel and quickly calculate tire sizes for comparison purposes.

Tire Height RIM Tread Width Aspect
26.696825 14 215 75

This is the excel formula where A is the solution, B rim, c tread width, and d the aspect ratio.

=B2+(2*((C2*0.03937)*(D2*0.01)))

I find 14 inch tires are getting very hard to find, you might be better going to a 15 inch rim and even raising the fenders a bit if you can do that. Since 14 inch tires are getting hard to find, you may also be buying a "new" tire that was made a couple of years ago. Buy from a high volume place, more likely to get a fresh tire. There is a date code on the sidewall of all tires, just google decoding those numbers.

I would say more sidewall is good, more rubber to dissipate heat? More rubber to squirm when turning or cornering. Take a look at highway tractors and trailers, nice tall rubber and fairly narrow.

With stiff sidewalls and high tire pressures, the LT tires would be good. I don't think the boat trailer tyre tires are very high quality.

Don

n1ywb posted 08-16-2015 09:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for n1ywb  Send Email to n1ywb     
It's important for any pneumatic tire to flex somewhat so there is a "contact patch" between the road and the tire. If the tire didn't flex at all, then the only contact would be along an infinitely thin line and traction would be very low. Also shock absorption is one of the main reasons why pneumatic tries are so widely used. So it's normal to see a bit of a bulge
EJO posted 08-18-2015 01:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for EJO  Send Email to EJO     
Don made a point about buying new old tires. Read this article http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11 and familiarize yourself with the code so you won't be taken.

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