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JC Scott posted 10-16-2000 02:23 PM ET (US)
Any suggestions for re-powering a 1983 Outrage 22 with twins? I am considering Johnson 150s counter-rotating (no WhalerDrive or bracket).
bigz posted 10-16-2000 03:42 PM ET (US)
I believe the max hp for your 22 is a total of 240hp --- you will exceed the rating certification and your insurance company might frown on this modification, plus most legit dealers will not rig them -- Tom
P.S. guess you can do whatever you want if you take the responsibility, sure there are some service operations which would rig them for you or you could do it yourself --- lots of weight -- suggestion would be drop down to a couple of 110,125 borderline or pushing it 135's
lhg posted 10-16-2000 04:26 PM ET (US)
Although I have seen 22's rigged with twin 150's, especially by the military, I would agree with Tom and stay with a pair of engines in the 90 - 115Hp range. The Coast Guard ran these models for years with twin OMC 100's. I have heard that twins on this model tend to be a little stern heavy (reason unknown), so watch weight if you are considering 4 strokes.
As a fan of the setback, adjustable height transom jacks, I would seriously recommend that you consider these, for an additional cost of $275 each, in the 10" or 12" setback variety. These will then allow you to use twin 25" shaft engines, instead of the usual 20", thereby getting the powerheads up higher. Assuming you're buying new, I know that Merc and Yamaha make 115's in 25" shaft length.
DIVE 1 posted 10-16-2000 09:19 PM ET (US)
We have a 22' Guardian/Raider that was built for the military and factory equipped with twin 155 Evinrudes. The boat is heavily reinforced in the transom to accomadate these engines. Even with the extra beef, we cracked the reinforcement joints open while running hard in rough water. Keep in mind that the standard Guardian is only rated for 240hp, and it has a heavier layup than an Outrage.
LHG made a good point that the boat runs stern heavy, which is true. We have 2"-3" between The top of the transom cutout and the water while tied at the dock. You will get wet feet every time you take a wave at the stern of the boat. Ours is equipped with an aluminum bulkhead at the front of the motor splashwell to keep the deck dry.
Huron Fire Dept has a 22' guardian with twin 115hp outboards and it runs fine and sets higher out of the water than ours.
If you would like to take a look at either boat let me know and we can set a date and time.

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Author	Topic: Outrage 22 Engines
JC Scott	posted 10-16-2000 02:23 PM ET (US) Any suggestions for re-powering a 1983 Outrage 22 with twins? I am considering Johnson 150s counter-rotating (no WhalerDrive or bracket).
bigz	posted 10-16-2000 03:42 PM ET (US) I believe the max hp for your 22 is a total of 240hp --- you will exceed the rating certification and your insurance company might frown on this modification, plus most legit dealers will not rig them -- Tom P.S. guess you can do whatever you want if you take the responsibility, sure there are some service operations which would rig them for you or you could do it yourself --- lots of weight -- suggestion would be drop down to a couple of 110,125 borderline or pushing it 135's
lhg	posted 10-16-2000 04:26 PM ET (US) Although I have seen 22's rigged with twin 150's, especially by the military, I would agree with Tom and stay with a pair of engines in the 90 - 115Hp range. The Coast Guard ran these models for years with twin OMC 100's. I have heard that twins on this model tend to be a little stern heavy (reason unknown), so watch weight if you are considering 4 strokes. As a fan of the setback, adjustable height transom jacks, I would seriously recommend that you consider these, for an additional cost of $275 each, in the 10" or 12" setback variety. These will then allow you to use twin 25" shaft engines, instead of the usual 20", thereby getting the powerheads up higher. Assuming you're buying new, I know that Merc and Yamaha make 115's in 25" shaft length.
DIVE 1	posted 10-16-2000 09:19 PM ET (US) We have a 22' Guardian/Raider that was built for the military and factory equipped with twin 155 Evinrudes. The boat is heavily reinforced in the transom to accomadate these engines. Even with the extra beef, we cracked the reinforcement joints open while running hard in rough water. Keep in mind that the standard Guardian is only rated for 240hp, and it has a heavier layup than an Outrage. LHG made a good point that the boat runs stern heavy, which is true. We have 2"-3" between The top of the transom cutout and the water while tied at the dock. You will get wet feet every time you take a wave at the stern of the boat. Ours is equipped with an aluminum bulkhead at the front of the motor splashwell to keep the deck dry. Huron Fire Dept has a 22' guardian with twin 115hp outboards and it runs fine and sets higher out of the water than ours. If you would like to take a look at either boat let me know and we can set a date and time.