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scottfarm1 posted 11-08-2000 08:04 AM ET (US)
I have a 1996 17 standard converted to montauk(center console-31 gallon aluminum seat tank with 96 75hp merc with stainless steel prop)-I get 38-39mph by gps on smooth water and 41-42mph on chop with full fuel and 2 people.
compounder posted 11-08-2000 10:07 AM ET (US)
So, what's the point?
Tsuriki BW posted 11-08-2000 04:38 PM ET (US)
Faster in chop than smooth water?
bk posted 11-08-2000 08:08 PM ET (US)
I was once told that boats will run faster in chop, since air is less resistant than water. Looking forward to confirming this with the GPS that Santa Claus is supposedly bringing me next month.
A few questions for Scottfarm -
Could you tell us more about converting your Standard '17 to a center console? I have a 98 Standard '17, also with a 75 Merc, and would consider this depending upon cost.
Did you use a Montauk or aftermarket console? How much labor was involved (if you don't mind sharing that information). Montauk consoles and pilot seats are available through Whaler, but cost data is only available from dealers and I suspect that I will not like what I hear. There is a boatbuilder down on the coast, previously mentioned on this site, that I plan to talk with in the near future. Problem there is that the hull warranty may be voided.
If all else fails, I will buy the helm seat from Dave's Upholstery. I would never have learned of it except through this website. Thanks, Jim, for providing a tremendous resource.
FISHNFF posted 11-09-2000 03:10 AM ET (US)
I purchased a new 17' Alert hull in 1998 and rigged it with a 1996 Merc 75 off of my 1986 montauk. I had the console and controls switched also. The console was modified with a fiberglass box atop the console and the windshield was moved up top. New SS handles were added back and side, large flush-mount compass, and antennae mounted high. I run w/o a bench seat to maximize room. A Ballistic 19" prop can push me about 35 knots on a Garmin 162 GPS alone with a group 27 battery and 10 gallons of fuel in the console @ 5600RPM. Loaded with 3 guys and an additional 12 gallons up front and a 17 Gal bait tank in back drops me to around 31 knots at 5300RPM. I do have a Doel-Fin. I know 5250 is redline on this motor and every Merc mechanic said 5250 MAX! But off the record every outboard mechanic, Yamaha, Merc, or OMC, said to always run outboards in the upper max range, even when loaded. A little above when light. Do not lug the motors. I've blown 3 powerheads on other boats running Too Much pitch!
scottfarm1 posted 11-12-2000 06:36 PM ET (US)
I bought my 17 whaler from a guy who converted it from standard to montauk. He used an aftermarket console and leaning post with 31 gallon fuel tank.--He did a beautiful job on it. He said buying the console from whaler was way too cost prohibative. The console is made by ocean waves. he bought a desert tan gelcoat kit from whaler and you can't tell where the holes for bolting down the seats were. The standard 1996 hull is identical to the montauk hull.
andygere posted 11-30-2000 04:50 PM ET (US)
One possibility for converting to a center console is to buy a reproduction mahogony console and pilot seat mfr'd for a Nauset. Earlier posts will tell you where to find the company that makes them. I've seen some photos and they are beautiful. Much nicer than the cheap aftermarket 'glass consoles and seats I've seen, and probably the same or lower cost as a new Montauk console/seat from Whaler. Just my 2cents.

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Author	Topic: 1996 75hp merc on montauk
scottfarm1	posted 11-08-2000 08:04 AM ET (US) I have a 1996 17 standard converted to montauk(center console-31 gallon aluminum seat tank with 96 75hp merc with stainless steel prop)-I get 38-39mph by gps on smooth water and 41-42mph on chop with full fuel and 2 people.
compounder	posted 11-08-2000 10:07 AM ET (US) So, what's the point?
Tsuriki BW	posted 11-08-2000 04:38 PM ET (US) Faster in chop than smooth water?
bk	posted 11-08-2000 08:08 PM ET (US) I was once told that boats will run faster in chop, since air is less resistant than water. Looking forward to confirming this with the GPS that Santa Claus is supposedly bringing me next month. A few questions for Scottfarm - Could you tell us more about converting your Standard '17 to a center console? I have a 98 Standard '17, also with a 75 Merc, and would consider this depending upon cost. Did you use a Montauk or aftermarket console? How much labor was involved (if you don't mind sharing that information). Montauk consoles and pilot seats are available through Whaler, but cost data is only available from dealers and I suspect that I will not like what I hear. There is a boatbuilder down on the coast, previously mentioned on this site, that I plan to talk with in the near future. Problem there is that the hull warranty may be voided. If all else fails, I will buy the helm seat from Dave's Upholstery. I would never have learned of it except through this website. Thanks, Jim, for providing a tremendous resource.
FISHNFF	posted 11-09-2000 03:10 AM ET (US) I purchased a new 17' Alert hull in 1998 and rigged it with a 1996 Merc 75 off of my 1986 montauk. I had the console and controls switched also. The console was modified with a fiberglass box atop the console and the windshield was moved up top. New SS handles were added back and side, large flush-mount compass, and antennae mounted high. I run w/o a bench seat to maximize room. A Ballistic 19" prop can push me about 35 knots on a Garmin 162 GPS alone with a group 27 battery and 10 gallons of fuel in the console @ 5600RPM. Loaded with 3 guys and an additional 12 gallons up front and a 17 Gal bait tank in back drops me to around 31 knots at 5300RPM. I do have a Doel-Fin. I know 5250 is redline on this motor and every Merc mechanic said 5250 MAX! But off the record every outboard mechanic, Yamaha, Merc, or OMC, said to always run outboards in the upper max range, even when loaded. A little above when light. Do not lug the motors. I've blown 3 powerheads on other boats running Too Much pitch!
scottfarm1	posted 11-12-2000 06:36 PM ET (US) I bought my 17 whaler from a guy who converted it from standard to montauk. He used an aftermarket console and leaning post with 31 gallon fuel tank.--He did a beautiful job on it. He said buying the console from whaler was way too cost prohibative. The console is made by ocean waves. he bought a desert tan gelcoat kit from whaler and you can't tell where the holes for bolting down the seats were. The standard 1996 hull is identical to the montauk hull.
andygere	posted 11-30-2000 04:50 PM ET (US) One possibility for converting to a center console is to buy a reproduction mahogony console and pilot seat mfr'd for a Nauset. Earlier posts will tell you where to find the company that makes them. I've seen some photos and they are beautiful. Much nicer than the cheap aftermarket 'glass consoles and seats I've seen, and probably the same or lower cost as a new Montauk console/seat from Whaler. Just my 2cents. 1