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Hawaiian Bob posted 10-24-2001 01:05 AM ET (US)
I need to repower but have a very limited budget. What is the most reliable/resonable motor in the 70 to 100 range. Looking for a model that would be under $800. Is this possible? What are some tips in finding a good used motor?
Highwater posted 10-24-2001 08:53 AM ET (US)
I would go to http://www.newsdirectory.com/ or a similar site and look in the classified section of lots of newspapers within driving distance of your residence. Look for boats in the $500 to $1500 range with the engine you want. If it looks good, do a compression test on the motor, and if that checks out, buy the package and immediately sell the boat and trailer (minus the engine) on eBay.
JBCornwell posted 10-24-2001 09:27 AM ET (US)
I like Highwater's advice, Bob. I also have an opinion about the best older 2 stroke for a Montauk: OMC 70 three cylinder loop scavenged.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
Bigshot posted 10-24-2001 10:55 AM ET (US)
$800 is tough. JB is probably on the money. Tons of them around. Do a comp test, check lower unit oil and run it.
where2 posted 10-24-2001 05:23 PM ET (US)
Last engine in that range I knew of in good running shape and good cosmetic shape was an '81 Johnson 70Hp. The new (still in box) power trim and tilt kit was extra. Deals are out there... http://www.boattraderonline.com/ is a good place to check also...
Kelly posted 10-24-2001 05:31 PM ET (US)
I hate to say this, but your info states that you are in Hawaii. I doubt if you will have the ready selection of motors there that are mentioned in this thread. In my opinion, you might have to go with a rebuilt of just pay the cost of a new motor. Of course, I know absolutly nothing about used motors or anything else in Hawaii. Kelly
Hawaiian Bob posted 10-25-2001 02:51 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the info. Hawaii does have a limited market but we do have some motors out here. Are suzuki 2 strokes any good? I have heard OMC are pretty reliable and easy to get parts/repaired. Alot of people are going to 4 strokes to save on fuel but my use cannot justify that expense. I just want to know if any year/motor/brand type is a good design that should last. Does a commercial leg- saltwater model etc. mean anything.
Kelly posted 10-26-2001 08:53 AM ET (US)
I would expect to see some Nissan or Tohatsu motors in Hawaii. I have an '87, or is it '85, I forget, 15 hp Nissan that seems to be a good reliable motor. I have also seen other posts where people spoke highly of these motors. Everybody that has new Suzukis seems to be pleased. I took a ride in a boat with a 200 hp suzuki 2 stroke the other day and it seemed to be a smooth strong relatively quiet motor. Kelly
Bigshot posted 10-26-2001 10:48 AM ET (US)
They are all good as long as you can get parts. If no Zuki dealer by you, do not get one. Do NOT buy a Force or a Chrysler. Anything else is just personal preference. Do NOT worry so much about age as condition. If a 1990 is $1000 but looks rough and an 1985 is cherry, go with the 85.
John from Madison CT posted 10-26-2001 12:37 PM ET (US)
Bob,
I realize that you are in an entirely different market in Hawaii, but keep your eyes open.
I just bought a "spare" motor for my newly acquired Montauk. It's a '89 Yammie 90hp that was run ONLY in Fresh Water. This motor is MINT. No corrosion, and clearly low hours, but well maintained.
It was on Ebay for $1700 with Prop, Controls and Digital Tach. No one bid, so I emailed the guy, offered $1300 and picked it up a week later. Look around, good deals are available.
John
Whalerdan posted 10-28-2001 04:11 AM ET (US)
I look at those motors on Ebay all the time but I'm scared to buy one. Alot of times they look like great deals, but then I think "You've got an old motor now, why buy another one?" What precautions, if any, did you take before you bought it? Was the sell close to your home? Did you have it shipped or did you pick it up.
John from Madison CT posted 10-28-2001 07:05 AM ET (US)
WhalerDan,
The Yamaha 90hp I bought was an Ebay motor, but I didn't bid on it, nor did anyone else, so I had no obligation to buy it site unseen. I offered the guy $1300 but asked that I can do a compression check and see it run (on ear muffs).
I travelled to Rochester, NY to get the motor myself, so shipping was not an issue. I'm used to Saltwater motors, so finding a FW one like this is a real pleasure.
Visit your local marinas too, they often have stuff for sale that they're too lazy to list. Also, I know of a place to buy Brand new Yamaha 90hp 2 strokes (2001 models) delivered to you for $4700.00
Here is the Link:
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/3/1550073.htm
Good Luck,
John

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Author	Topic: Best older 2 stroke for montauk
Hawaiian Bob	posted 10-24-2001 01:05 AM ET (US) I need to repower but have a very limited budget. What is the most reliable/resonable motor in the 70 to 100 range. Looking for a model that would be under $800. Is this possible? What are some tips in finding a good used motor?
Highwater	posted 10-24-2001 08:53 AM ET (US) I would go to http://www.newsdirectory.com/ or a similar site and look in the classified section of lots of newspapers within driving distance of your residence. Look for boats in the $500 to $1500 range with the engine you want. If it looks good, do a compression test on the motor, and if that checks out, buy the package and immediately sell the boat and trailer (minus the engine) on eBay.
JBCornwell	posted 10-24-2001 09:27 AM ET (US) I like Highwater's advice, Bob. I also have an opinion about the best older 2 stroke for a Montauk: OMC 70 three cylinder loop scavenged. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
Bigshot	posted 10-24-2001 10:55 AM ET (US) $800 is tough. JB is probably on the money. Tons of them around. Do a comp test, check lower unit oil and run it.
where2	posted 10-24-2001 05:23 PM ET (US) Last engine in that range I knew of in good running shape and good cosmetic shape was an '81 Johnson 70Hp. The new (still in box) power trim and tilt kit was extra. Deals are out there... http://www.boattraderonline.com/ is a good place to check also...
Kelly	posted 10-24-2001 05:31 PM ET (US) I hate to say this, but your info states that you are in Hawaii. I doubt if you will have the ready selection of motors there that are mentioned in this thread. In my opinion, you might have to go with a rebuilt of just pay the cost of a new motor. Of course, I know absolutly nothing about used motors or anything else in Hawaii. Kelly
Hawaiian Bob	posted 10-25-2001 02:51 PM ET (US) Thanks for the info. Hawaii does have a limited market but we do have some motors out here. Are suzuki 2 strokes any good? I have heard OMC are pretty reliable and easy to get parts/repaired. Alot of people are going to 4 strokes to save on fuel but my use cannot justify that expense. I just want to know if any year/motor/brand type is a good design that should last. Does a commercial leg- saltwater model etc. mean anything.
Kelly	posted 10-26-2001 08:53 AM ET (US) I would expect to see some Nissan or Tohatsu motors in Hawaii. I have an '87, or is it '85, I forget, 15 hp Nissan that seems to be a good reliable motor. I have also seen other posts where people spoke highly of these motors. Everybody that has new Suzukis seems to be pleased. I took a ride in a boat with a 200 hp suzuki 2 stroke the other day and it seemed to be a smooth strong relatively quiet motor. Kelly
Bigshot	posted 10-26-2001 10:48 AM ET (US) They are all good as long as you can get parts. If no Zuki dealer by you, do not get one. Do NOT buy a Force or a Chrysler. Anything else is just personal preference. Do NOT worry so much about age as condition. If a 1990 is $1000 but looks rough and an 1985 is cherry, go with the 85.
John from Madison CT	posted 10-26-2001 12:37 PM ET (US) Bob, I realize that you are in an entirely different market in Hawaii, but keep your eyes open. I just bought a "spare" motor for my newly acquired Montauk. It's a '89 Yammie 90hp that was run ONLY in Fresh Water. This motor is MINT. No corrosion, and clearly low hours, but well maintained. It was on Ebay for $1700 with Prop, Controls and Digital Tach. No one bid, so I emailed the guy, offered $1300 and picked it up a week later. Look around, good deals are available. John
Whalerdan	posted 10-28-2001 04:11 AM ET (US) I look at those motors on Ebay all the time but I'm scared to buy one. Alot of times they look like great deals, but then I think "You've got an old motor now, why buy another one?" What precautions, if any, did you take before you bought it? Was the sell close to your home? Did you have it shipped or did you pick it up.
John from Madison CT	posted 10-28-2001 07:05 AM ET (US) WhalerDan, The Yamaha 90hp I bought was an Ebay motor, but I didn't bid on it, nor did anyone else, so I had no obligation to buy it site unseen. I offered the guy $1300 but asked that I can do a compression check and see it run (on ear muffs). I travelled to Rochester, NY to get the motor myself, so shipping was not an issue. I'm used to Saltwater motors, so finding a FW one like this is a real pleasure. Visit your local marinas too, they often have stuff for sale that they're too lazy to list. Also, I know of a place to buy Brand new Yamaha 90hp 2 strokes (2001 models) delivered to you for $4700.00 Here is the Link: http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/3/1550073.htm Good Luck, John