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Landlocked posted 03-18-2002 04:14 PM ET (US)
Just got a call from Bass Pro - They had promised to have my boat ready by Wed. but just called to say that the steering cable was "frozen" and that they would have to cut it. New cables are not available for my helm and that a new "kit" would be 260.00. The steering worked fine when I took it over there - Don't know how they became frozen. but told them to save me as much cable as they could and I would fix it myself as I had already given them every penny I had.
Anyone had experience with "frozen" cables mysteriously popping up? Is 260 actually reasonable? Don't have my West Marine Cataloge here to look at. Assuming they cut my cables - can they be repaired to work with the new motor?
I know - lot of questions. Starting to feel like I should have taken my motor elsewhere to be installed.
Ll.
Bigshot posted 03-18-2002 04:34 PM ET (US)
I call BS and not my initials. I have never had a cable that did not fit on a Whaler. Bring it home and for $150 and 2 hours of your time you can get a new helm and cable. 18" is the lenght for a Montauk.
Landlocked posted 03-18-2002 04:43 PM ET (US)
Thanks BS - thought I smelled a rat. I'll check West for 18 foot cable tonight. The new helm will work with my existing factory destroyer wheel so long as it has a key-way - right?
Ll.
Bigshot posted 03-18-2002 04:49 PM ET (US)
Yup! You will probably use your old keyway but it might include a new one. Not really a rat if really stuck but they usually do not "freeze" that quick. If it was stiff, you are better off. You have to remember that $260 includes labor....right.
Landlocked posted 03-18-2002 05:12 PM ET (US)
The price did include labor - I bill by the hour in my business as well so I know time is money - just got the feeling they would rather bill me the two hours labor and install a new cable and helm rather than messing around with a can of WD-40 and a little elbow grease. I sat in the boat a week ago and turned the wheel from side to side - wasn't stiff at all and never has been. Can't imagine how it could have gotten that frozen in such a short amount of time. Don't doubt that it was jammed but I think it could have been worked out.
Oh well. I'll go ahead and pick up a new helm and cable at West. Since they are cutting my cables, I assume they will now be useless. Hope they don't decide to cut anything else.......
Ll.
Landlocked posted 03-18-2002 10:28 PM ET (US)
Nick
I know, spending way too much effort to save a hundred bucks...
I'm 99.9% sure my helm is fine. Cables are probably corroded due to late fall saltwater use. Yes I rinsed but probably not enough. Bass Pro says no cables available to fit my old helm. (78 montauk, factory helm).
Looking through West catalog, the only helms I see that resemble mine are the Big-T Rotary and the Safe-T rotary (pages 379 and 369, respectively). Not sure which I have. I know mine has the plastic tube coming out of it on one side and is made of what my pop used to call "pot" metal.
On page 369, the book shows QCII cables which fit both of the helms mentioned above. West says that the cables fit "old style (ie threaded) Safe-T, Big T etc..." and includes an adapter to fit older teleflex rotary helms.
Do you have any idea if this is what I need based on the info I have been able to provide? The 18' cable runs 143.99. Figure if all they have to do is run it through the tunnel and screw it on, It shouldn't take more than an hour labor and I get to go to the water this weekend.
Chris.
Bigshot posted 03-19-2002 10:36 AM ET (US)
I'll say it agian, replace the helm too. 24 years of wear and taer....replace it.
EddieS posted 03-21-2002 01:21 AM ET (US)
BigShot is right. You also have the perfect opportunity to replace it with a NFB helm. Buying both together at the same time saves you some dough.
Ed

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Author	Topic: Steering Cable
Landlocked	posted 03-18-2002 04:14 PM ET (US) Just got a call from Bass Pro - They had promised to have my boat ready by Wed. but just called to say that the steering cable was "frozen" and that they would have to cut it. New cables are not available for my helm and that a new "kit" would be 260.00. The steering worked fine when I took it over there - Don't know how they became frozen. but told them to save me as much cable as they could and I would fix it myself as I had already given them every penny I had. Anyone had experience with "frozen" cables mysteriously popping up? Is 260 actually reasonable? Don't have my West Marine Cataloge here to look at. Assuming they cut my cables - can they be repaired to work with the new motor? I know - lot of questions. Starting to feel like I should have taken my motor elsewhere to be installed. Ll.
Bigshot	posted 03-18-2002 04:34 PM ET (US) I call BS and not my initials. I have never had a cable that did not fit on a Whaler. Bring it home and for $150 and 2 hours of your time you can get a new helm and cable. 18" is the lenght for a Montauk.
Landlocked	posted 03-18-2002 04:43 PM ET (US) Thanks BS - thought I smelled a rat. I'll check West for 18 foot cable tonight. The new helm will work with my existing factory destroyer wheel so long as it has a key-way - right? Ll.
Bigshot	posted 03-18-2002 04:49 PM ET (US) Yup! You will probably use your old keyway but it might include a new one. Not really a rat if really stuck but they usually do not "freeze" that quick. If it was stiff, you are better off. You have to remember that $260 includes labor....right.
Landlocked	posted 03-18-2002 05:12 PM ET (US) The price did include labor - I bill by the hour in my business as well so I know time is money - just got the feeling they would rather bill me the two hours labor and install a new cable and helm rather than messing around with a can of WD-40 and a little elbow grease. I sat in the boat a week ago and turned the wheel from side to side - wasn't stiff at all and never has been. Can't imagine how it could have gotten that frozen in such a short amount of time. Don't doubt that it was jammed but I think it could have been worked out. Oh well. I'll go ahead and pick up a new helm and cable at West. Since they are cutting my cables, I assume they will now be useless. Hope they don't decide to cut anything else....... Ll.
Landlocked	posted 03-18-2002 10:28 PM ET (US) Nick I know, spending way too much effort to save a hundred bucks... I'm 99.9% sure my helm is fine. Cables are probably corroded due to late fall saltwater use. Yes I rinsed but probably not enough. Bass Pro says no cables available to fit my old helm. (78 montauk, factory helm). Looking through West catalog, the only helms I see that resemble mine are the Big-T Rotary and the Safe-T rotary (pages 379 and 369, respectively). Not sure which I have. I know mine has the plastic tube coming out of it on one side and is made of what my pop used to call "pot" metal. On page 369, the book shows QCII cables which fit both of the helms mentioned above. West says that the cables fit "old style (ie threaded) Safe-T, Big T etc..." and includes an adapter to fit older teleflex rotary helms. Do you have any idea if this is what I need based on the info I have been able to provide? The 18' cable runs 143.99. Figure if all they have to do is run it through the tunnel and screw it on, It shouldn't take more than an hour labor and I get to go to the water this weekend. Chris.
Bigshot	posted 03-19-2002 10:36 AM ET (US) I'll say it agian, replace the helm too. 24 years of wear and taer....replace it.
EddieS	posted 03-21-2002 01:21 AM ET (US) BigShot is right. You also have the perfect opportunity to replace it with a NFB helm. Buying both together at the same time saves you some dough. Ed