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Bob 17 posted 02-15-2003 08:01 PM ET (US)   Profile for Bob 17   Send Email to Bob 17  
Looking at moving up to a 1985-1989 27 cabin/full/cc:What kind of speed, gas consumption,etc should I expect. What engines would you recommend if I have to replace. Headed back to work to build up a surplus of fuel money!!
Rama posted 03-17-2005 08:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rama  Send Email to Rama     
The 27 is an amazing hull. Mine came with sea drives in 1985. Those were replaced with a a stainless marine bracket, and a pair of 200 loopers Evinrude. I replaced those with a pair of carbureted 200 yamahas. The fuel tank had to be replaced. While the floor was out I had the water heater and holding tank removed. In place I added to saddle tanks, increasing my fuel to almost 300 gallons. The cabin is great for two people and one dog for about a week. It has a Rybo tower with a full upper station and tower mounted outriggers. We have been through some nasty weather and it has always performed great. The boats top speed is 42 Mph which feels like 100 if your steering from upstairs.
The down side. No good place for a generator. It is only set up for shore power. Why bother carrying the weight of the water heater and Air conditioner. It never was used so I had it removed. In choppy water, I feel like the boat needs a lot of tab to keep the bow down for a smooth ride. With tabs up it likes to get up on the flatter part of the hull and will slap the water. I think the whaler drive would give it more running surface and probably give better results. The head liner in cabin is begining to fall apart. The aluminum around the windows are starting to corrode. Oh yeah. The console is not set up with much room for modern electronics. This boat has worn out two pairs of outboards and hopefully several more. Overall it has been wonderfull. hope you enjoy
Peter posted 03-18-2005 09:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
I have a 1989 27 Whaler with the Whaler Drive option. It has the 310 gallon fuel capacity option (one 170 gallon main belly fuel tank, two 70 gallon saddle tanks located under cockpit sole port and starboard to the main). It's propelled by a pair of Evinrude 225 Fichts. Top speed is about 45 MPH with all fuel tanks nearly full. Optimum cruise speed is about 30 to 34 MPH. Fuel economy at optimum cruise speed is in the 1.3 to 1.4 MPG range (not as efficient as more modern boat hulls in this size range).

The hull has a less sharp bow entry and less deadrise than a Grady White 272, 282 or equivalent, for example, which tends to make this boat have a rougher ride into a head sea. However, the boat has a drier ride than a Grady and tracks far far better in a heavy following sea. I have been in some pretty steep seas (4 to 6 ft, and occasionally more than that) with the 27 and have not yet taken water over the bow. At rest, the boat is so amazingly stable that it makes a Grady White 272 look very tender when tied up along side.

With the WhalerDrive option, 450 HP (6 total liters of equivalent displacement or higher) in a direct injected 2-stroke or a 4-stroke is really the way to go. If repowering today, I would look at the E-TEC 225 or 250s (combining best of 2 and 4 stroke attributes, but 1st year out), the Suzuki DF 225 or 250s (strong performers, weak service network, 2nd year out), Johnson DF225 (same as Suzuki, better service network?), Yamaha F250 (first year out, good service, good reputation, good resale a few years from now?), Evinrude 225 or 250 DI (best kept secret on the market, currently has best conventional DI 2-stroke reputation, downside is resale value to uneducated who think of old OMC built Ficht 150/175 problems), Yamaha 250 HPDI (likes oil, does Yamaha really have the bugs worked out, resale value?), Verado 225 or 250s (heaviest and most expensive to own and operate choice and not clear where the required power steering pump would go, the bilge is probably not a good place, intercooled supercharger in saltwater a liability in later years?), and Optimax 225 (strong performer but loud) in that order.

Bottom line is that its a great, solid boat with a huge, uncluttered cockpit (that's what sold me on it). If you find one in good shape at a reasonable price, get it surveyed and if it checks out, buy it. You'll have no regrets.

Rama posted 03-19-2005 12:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rama  Send Email to Rama     
I recently took a ride in a Evinrude promotional boat. It was a beat up 29-foot angler with a new 225 E-tech on one side and a new Yamaha 225 four stroke on the other. The E-tech is just as quiet as the four stroke. They turn the e-tech off and trim it up. Using just the yamaha they try to get on plane and the boat wont do it. Then they switch to the E-tech and turn the yamaha off. The boat climed up on plane and reached a speed of around 30 knots. I thought for sure it had to be swinging a smaller prop but when we got back to the dock I looked. They were both 17 pitch. I was really impressed that the E-tec had the spunk of the old ficht, but no more noisy ticking injectors. Like you said, it is the first year. I think I'll let them work the bugs out on someone elses boat.

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