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kshoaps posted 07-23-2003 04:07 PM ET (US)
I have a new 150 Sport with 60 hp Four stroke Bigfoot. Original prop is aluminum 13 3/4" x 15 turning through 2.3 reduction. Anticav plate exactly at bottom of keel. 200 lb driver plus 6 gals of gas gets me 35 mph (gps) at 5600 rpm with full up tilt. Planes at 16-17 mph at 3200-3400 rpm. Gets on plane in 2 1/2-3 secs.
Would like to get higher top speed (don't we all?) and lower planing speed.
I plan to raise engine 1 0r 2 holes and probably install Grand Island Marine hydrofoil.
Since I'm in a rocky Maine lake I'm afraid to spend 300 on a ss prop that may even damage the gearbox if I hit a rock.
Has anyone had any experience with the so called aluminum high performance props. Specifically looking at the Turning Point Hustler, Michigan Wheel Vortex and others including some composition props.
Are they any improvement over the standard Mercury prop I now have?
Any comments.
Absolutely love the boat--great ride but I wish BW would have offered the standard non-Bigfoot 4stroke as an option since the selection of props for that motor seems much wider than for the Bigfoot. (Also needs a larger fuel tank.)

Popeye posted 07-23-2003 06:21 PM ET (US)

Hustler props are junk imho. On my Montauk with a 90 hp 2s Yamaha it really sucked. Stock Yamaha 17 pitch wot 5100 rpms. Turning Point Hustler 15 pitch wot 4600 rpm. Go figure. No hole shot, no pulling power, no top end. The hub they use seems to block to much of the exhaust. Customer service was rude. Sent it back and will lose 20% restocking fee plus shipping. Save your money.
Good Luck
Mark

Clark Roberts posted 07-23-2003 06:41 PM ET (US)
ks, your engine should be propped to turn 6000rpm lightly loaded. Try a 13" pitch and you may get that extra 400 rpm, higher top speed, better hole shot and slower planing speed... to much to ask for? The correct prop/set-up can make all the difference in the world... testing is only way to tell for sure... happy Whalin'... Clark.. Spruce Creek Navy
kshoaps posted 07-23-2003 07:02 PM ET (US)
Thanks for your input--the only problem is that most prop manufacturers don't list anything less than 15" pitch for the 4 1/4" gearcase (bigfoot has same gearcase as 75-115 hp motors.) In addition, all are about 13 3/4" diameter as well or I would have tried a 12-12 1/2' prop to get the extra rpm.
jimh posted 07-23-2003 10:10 PM ET (US)
Mercury propellers are overall the best off-the-shelf propellers available. I don't think there is a huge performance gain available for you since the horsepower is limited.
Note that Boston Whaler reported the same engine on a 170 Montauk went only 1.5 MPH slower.
Moe posted 07-24-2003 09:54 AM ET (US)
Sounds like it's propped to turn 6,000 rpm with a 150-200 lb driver/6 gal fuel in salt water. If you're gonna keep it in fresh, what about the 48-77340A33 Black Max 14" X 13"P?
--
Moe
Moe posted 07-24-2003 12:06 PM ET (US)
Just for reference, how I found this prop is:
Go to Mercury Parts Express
http://www.mercurypartsexpress.com/PartsExpress/HomePage/homepage.asp
Under Accessories, click on the underlined link "outboard and sterndrive propeller"
Enter your Zip Code in the Dealer Locator
Select a Dealer and clink continue
Click on Mercury Propeller Applications
Click on Mercury/Mariner Outboard Application Chart
Click on Mercury/Mariner 40-60HP Outboards
All the resulting props say "Generally used with 40-50-60 HP BF FS..."
Can't give you just one link because they expire here. I didn't have much luck using their prop selector.
Hope this helps someone else,
--
Moe

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Author	Topic: Stiletto vs Hustler
kshoaps	posted 07-23-2003 04:07 PM ET (US) I have a new 150 Sport with 60 hp Four stroke Bigfoot. Original prop is aluminum 13 3/4" x 15 turning through 2.3 reduction. Anticav plate exactly at bottom of keel. 200 lb driver plus 6 gals of gas gets me 35 mph (gps) at 5600 rpm with full up tilt. Planes at 16-17 mph at 3200-3400 rpm. Gets on plane in 2 1/2-3 secs. Would like to get higher top speed (don't we all?) and lower planing speed. I plan to raise engine 1 0r 2 holes and probably install Grand Island Marine hydrofoil. Since I'm in a rocky Maine lake I'm afraid to spend 300 on a ss prop that may even damage the gearbox if I hit a rock. Has anyone had any experience with the so called aluminum high performance props. Specifically looking at the Turning Point Hustler, Michigan Wheel Vortex and others including some composition props. Are they any improvement over the standard Mercury prop I now have? Any comments. Absolutely love the boat--great ride but I wish BW would have offered the standard non-Bigfoot 4stroke as an option since the selection of props for that motor seems much wider than for the Bigfoot. (Also needs a larger fuel tank.)
Popeye	posted 07-23-2003 06:21 PM ET (US) Hustler props are junk imho. On my Montauk with a 90 hp 2s Yamaha it really sucked. Stock Yamaha 17 pitch wot 5100 rpms. Turning Point Hustler 15 pitch wot 4600 rpm. Go figure. No hole shot, no pulling power, no top end. The hub they use seems to block to much of the exhaust. Customer service was rude. Sent it back and will lose 20% restocking fee plus shipping. Save your money. Good Luck Mark
Clark Roberts	posted 07-23-2003 06:41 PM ET (US) ks, your engine should be propped to turn 6000rpm lightly loaded. Try a 13" pitch and you may get that extra 400 rpm, higher top speed, better hole shot and slower planing speed... to much to ask for? The correct prop/set-up can make all the difference in the world... testing is only way to tell for sure... happy Whalin'... Clark.. Spruce Creek Navy
kshoaps	posted 07-23-2003 07:02 PM ET (US) Thanks for your input--the only problem is that most prop manufacturers don't list anything less than 15" pitch for the 4 1/4" gearcase (bigfoot has same gearcase as 75-115 hp motors.) In addition, all are about 13 3/4" diameter as well or I would have tried a 12-12 1/2' prop to get the extra rpm.
jimh	posted 07-23-2003 10:10 PM ET (US) Mercury propellers are overall the best off-the-shelf propellers available. I don't think there is a huge performance gain available for you since the horsepower is limited. Note that Boston Whaler reported the same engine on a 170 Montauk went only 1.5 MPH slower.
Moe	posted 07-24-2003 09:54 AM ET (US) Sounds like it's propped to turn 6,000 rpm with a 150-200 lb driver/6 gal fuel in salt water. If you're gonna keep it in fresh, what about the 48-77340A33 Black Max 14" X 13"P? -- Moe
Moe	posted 07-24-2003 12:06 PM ET (US) Just for reference, how I found this prop is: Go to Mercury Parts Express http://www.mercurypartsexpress.com/PartsExpress/HomePage/homepage.asp Under Accessories, click on the underlined link "outboard and sterndrive propeller" Enter your Zip Code in the Dealer Locator Select a Dealer and clink continue Click on Mercury Propeller Applications Click on Mercury/Mariner Outboard Application Chart Click on Mercury/Mariner 40-60HP Outboards All the resulting props say "Generally used with 40-50-60 HP BF FS..." Can't give you just one link because they expire here. I didn't have much luck using their prop selector. Hope this helps someone else, -- Moe