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SuburbanBoy posted 11-24-2003 04:54 PM ET (US)   Profile for SuburbanBoy   Send Email to SuburbanBoy  
There was an interesting article in the NYTimes about the newest Cadillac. A 2004 SRX Wagon. Available with V-6 or V-8, rear wheel drive or all wheel drive. It is capable of towing 3,500 pounds. It sounds pretty nice, but like the VW it is a little "salty" at close to $60,000 full boat (all options). The base was close to $40,000. This is their new world beater. I wish them well. It could possibly tow an 18' Outrage or smaller. Nice alternative to the imports.


Tom2697 posted 11-24-2003 05:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
There was an article in one of the car mags a few months ago testing the Cadillac, Infinity, VW, and Porsche. All had the 300+ hp engines. The Cadiilac won that test but I don't believe towing was included as a performance category. Is 3500 lbs the max this vehicle can pull? That seems to go with GM's standard approach to offering a potenitally great vehicle but screwing up in offering a sub-par performance in one respect.
Robob2003 posted 11-24-2003 06:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Robob2003  Send Email to Robob2003     
The Cadillac SRX is a toy for those who want to be different but not different enough to pop for 70 grand for the steel top convertible in the same genre.

If you are panting for a Cadillac, buy the Escalade. It shoud be able to pull any Whaler within reason and it's still a Cadillac:-)

I was going to buy one but it was too tall for my garage so I wound up with a Durango, which I love.

Bob on Tampa Bay

BOB KEMMLER JR posted 11-25-2003 09:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
3500 lbs? My old 95 caprice wagon was rated for 5500lbs,and that was with 2.93 gears,i just put 3.73's in,which should have raised it a bit.Is the Caddy a full frame,or a uni body?
Bigshot posted 11-25-2003 01:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
The VW is $36k list for the V6 and leather, etc. The V8 was like $41k. I don't know what kind of options you were looking at to bring it near $60k unless that option was a Porche instead;)

I think the VW is a steal at $36k with the v6. I also think the Benz ML350 is great at just under $40k with a V6 and another $5k for the ML500 V8. The Caddy's and others are a friggin rip off at $60k+, especially when they drop to $25k in 2-3 years.

I am seriously considering the VW or the Mercedes to replace my '98 Benz ML320 with but am waiting for the new V10 diesels next year.

Bigshot posted 11-25-2003 01:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
PS that new Infiniti FX is an awesome truck and AWD V6 is about $37k.
nevada posted 11-25-2003 01:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for nevada  Send Email to nevada     
Here is the car for you. Don't no if it will tow, but I'm sure it will go.


Bigshot posted 11-25-2003 03:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
My Dada has owned 5 Saabs rangine from 1957-1986. Great cars but dealer network in my area of FL sucks.
Bigshot posted 11-25-2003 03:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Try that again:

My Dad has owned 5 Saabs ranging from 1957(2 stroke) to 1986.

nevada posted 11-25-2003 03:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for nevada  Send Email to nevada     

I'll bet that 86 is still on the road. And You are welcome:)


TightPenny posted 11-26-2003 11:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
Over priced toys for yuppies.

Get a real truck!!! I'll stick with my F250 - 7.3 Powerstroke 6 spd, thank you very much. :)

Bigshot posted 11-26-2003 01:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Oversized road hog for Rednecks! I'll stick with my Mercedes thank you :)
triblet posted 11-29-2003 09:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
My high school buddy Gary Stiles was into two-stroke SAABs.
He had several, including a couple of parts cars. He welded
the steering mechanism out of the front of one into the back
of another, and could steer the front and rear independently.
It could go down the road at about a 30 degree angle, and
boy could it parallel park.

The long term plan was to put a second engine in the rear
but that never happened.


alkar posted 11-29-2003 03:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for alkar  Send Email to alkar     
I've heard that those Cadillacs can be quite dangerous to drive. I understand that they've been involved in a disproportionately large number of accidents.

I understand that this is attributed to the fact that drivers are having difficulty seeing, as they feel obliged to wear bags over their heads when they drive those things.

Just kidding, of course, but my kids would be terribly embarrassed if I pulled into the driveway in a Cadillac. They'd feel the same way if I bought a Benz. It's not a quality thing, it's an image thing. My kids would rather see me buy a new $50K pickup truck than a new $40K Mercedes, because they see the latter as an attempt to look like a rich big-shot (no pun intended). I don't think they get that perception from me, but I admit to feeling a bit the same way. The conspicuous consumer label is uncomfortable.

Oddly, out here anyway, there's no stigma associated with buying an expensive Toyota, Chevy, Volkswagen, or Lexus - but the lower-end BMWs, Mercedes, and Cadillacs are pretty uniformly stigmatized as "yuppie-mobiles".

When I grow up I hope to make it past being a slave to my children's image concerns. :-)

daverdla posted 11-29-2003 07:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
My 1986 Saab 900 Turbo is still on the road - everyday. I gave it to my dad about four years ago. It runs like a top. They were great cars. I lease a 2001 Saab 9-5 wagon for work. It's a very nice car, safe, fast, reliable, comfy too, but it's not really a Saab anymore. GM has helped Saab sell more cars by making them more mainstream. Kinda reminds of a certain boat manufacturer.

I hope that Saab and Boston Whaler can stay true to their roots. It's an interesting parallel. When Saab first started building cars, they, like Boston Whaler, built what was at the time considered offbeat even strange products. Both concentrated on function and safety. Now both have masters with different ideas. I hope both can remember their heritage and survive in very competitive markets.


AZdave posted 11-30-2003 12:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for AZdave  Send Email to AZdave     
I'm not sure if it's my imagination, or just senility setting in, but it seems to me that high end SUV's are evolving back to my mother in law's 1972 Ford Country Squire Wagon. Let's see: V-8, large towing capacity, heavy duty automatic, bad fuel mileage. Yeah, I know these have bells and whistles and the option of AWD. I'm waiting for fake wood trim on the sides. Dave
Tom2697 posted 12-01-2003 10:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
I couldn't agree more with you! Although I will have to say that the "crossover" vehicles that everyone is producing is more of the Brady Wagon style than the SUV's.
As for the fake wood panelling, give 'em time. The PT Cruisers are available with the trim panels. I'm certain that the aftermarket manufacturer of these panels will be making some for other vehicles soon...Keep your fingers crossed! :-)
TightPenny posted 12-01-2003 10:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     

Oversize maybe, but I fit in it very nicely, and the view down the road is about a nice as you can get without buying a Kenworth. I also have a Ranger for tight parking situations.

Trailer pulling, commuting to the office, and using the beach on Island Beach State Park is perfect for the F250, and averaging 17-19 mpg is not to be sneezed at.

Bigshot posted 12-01-2003 02:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Just bustin ya Tight $$.

I along with a few others here(JB) am VERY delighted with the ML320. We are probably a minority in that we actually tow something with ours. I brought down my 20' Hydra-sports from NJ with it and it did very well being I was about 4.2k with trailer and fuel. I got about 12mpg as well. The Benz is a nice SUV, not too big and not too small and the V6 is very competent with it's 215hp and 5spd auto. I get about 18 when not towing and am in AWD all the time. Boat ramps are the best when I back up and pull out a 24' Baja without spinning a tire, people are puzzled being they think the ML is just an image thing and I show it really is a SUV. Heck it did not win Motor Trend's truck of the year in 98 for nothing;)

ryanwhaler posted 12-01-2003 02:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     
Everyone I know who owns a ML seems to be really happy with them, I got a ride in one with a V8. It's a nice little rig, but I just find it ulgy, it looks like an egg.
Bigshot posted 12-01-2003 03:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
They tried selling me a white one but I told them it looked like a mail truck.....sorry for those who own white ones.
ryanwhaler posted 12-01-2003 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     
If you got the while one you'd have to buy Menemsha to tow behind it. ;)

JB's it silver, so I think we are safe.

ryanwhaler posted 12-01-2003 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for ryanwhaler  Send Email to ryanwhaler     
That should read:

If you got a WHITE one......

TightPenny posted 12-02-2003 05:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     

I figured that. You should know that we don't have rednecks up this far north... They even took away our NYC country station to discourage the practice.

You have to move to your part of the country to qualify as one :):):)

Bigshot posted 12-03-2003 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
No rednecks in south Jersey.....hahahahahhaha. Ok maybe more like Pineys. You never met my anyone from Hedding or Pemberton have you? Been to Tuckerton, barnegat, manahawkin lately?
alkar posted 12-03-2003 02:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for alkar  Send Email to alkar     
I don't think there are any Floridians left in Florida. As near as I can tell, they've all been displaced by New Yorkers and New Jersyites. (The last five or six people I met "from" Florida had HEAVY New York/Jersey accents. I've found the same thing when I buy parts from Florida.)

When I was a kid, with the exception of the folks who lived in Miami, floridians had a southern accent and a southern culture.

Tom2697 posted 12-03-2003 02:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
You know the difference between a "Yankee" and a "Damn Yankee"?

A "Yankee" comes south for the winter and then goes home. A "Damn Yankee" stays.

Bigshot posted 12-03-2003 02:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Plenty of southern accents on the west coast of FL. I have a bunch of "local" friends who oddly enough refer to some people as rednecks. Now when a redneck calls someone else a redneck....they are REALLY rednecks.

I know many people who lived their entire lives in NJ who sound like they just moved up north from Alabama or somewhere. The locals on LBI used to talk with a southern draw. They have since moved off the island being their shack was worth $700k.

alkar posted 12-03-2003 03:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for alkar  Send Email to alkar     
What's LBI?
Tom2697 posted 12-03-2003 04:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom2697  Send Email to Tom2697     
Long Beach the southern end of Barnegat Bay.
TightPenny posted 12-04-2003 09:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
I call it the next island down. :)
Toad2001 posted 12-06-2003 05:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Toad2001  Send Email to Toad2001     
Last year I bought my 1st SAAB. I've owned about 70 cars but never a SAAB. Its a 94 900 series, with a V6/5 Spd, the first year of the new style (looks the same as a 2000).
We got a great deal on it and are using it as a 2nd car (3rd/4th actually). Since in my mind it was kind of a "beater", although its still in perfect shape, I've been driving the snot out of it. I must commend SAAB on this thing. All I've had to do in over a year is 2 oil changes, and add air to the tires.
adaps4 posted 12-06-2003 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for adaps4  Send Email to adaps4     
In about a month you will start seeing the Nissan Titan rolling on the road. Trust me, you will want one. I test drove an SE King Cab offroad package, unreal. Most torque, kicks the Hemi's tail in the 1/4 mile, and is priced to sell. My test vehicle with all the offroad options, and none of the navigation, bling bling, was about $30,000. When I buy mine used in about 2 years, that will be a very affordable truck. I am not a big fan of first year models.
2005 will see the introduction of their 3/4 ton model, and there is rumor of them introducing their european standard deisel in the U.S. That engine is notorious for lasting forever. Ford, Chevy, and Toyota(especially) are sweating heavily. Petersons 4 wheel drive rated it the best new truck of 2004, and trust me, they were looking for reasons to pan it.
My favorite test of this truck was performed on a 1/4 mile test track. They lined up a Titan and a Hemi, both towing the same weight 32' boat. The Titan beat the Hemi by a full truck and boat length. Then they switched drivers, to show it was not a fluke, with the same results. Now that is a real world test that opens some eyes.
TightPenny posted 12-07-2003 07:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     

Here I am sitting in front of my computer on December 7, 2003, recalling the events of sixty two years ago, and considering your recommendation.

Buy a Japanese automobile directly, NOT A CHANCE. My Dad just would not approve. The lessons taught when I was little in the 1950's just won't rub off.

Thank you very much, I will stick with Ford and my F-250 Powerstroke 7.3 liter. At least I know the company is based in the USA, and didn't manufacture any of the products used that infamous morning sixty two years ago today.

I am not trying to knock your personal choice, but I will always try to buy American, if I can. While I realize that the content sometimes isn't fully American, at least the name is, and I keep some sort of positive conscience as a result.

Today of all days, Remember Pearl Harbor.

SuburbanBoy posted 12-07-2003 10:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
The Nissan Titan, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Renault. It is a French vehicle, owned and operated by Renault. American workers manufacture it in the USA. The profits go back to France.

gnr posted 12-08-2003 11:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for gnr  Send Email to gnr     

How come they did not line up a Ford with the Hemi and the Titan?

TightPenny posted 12-08-2003 01:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
I know, I know, pick on me.



jstachowiak posted 12-08-2003 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for jstachowiak  Send Email to jstachowiak     
Cadillac Escalade AWD 2002 Tow Limit 8,200lb.
Cadillac Escalade 2WD 2002 Tow Limit 7,400lb.
Cadillac Escalade EXT 2002 Tow Limit 7,900lb.

jstachowiak posted 12-08-2003 02:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for jstachowiak  Send Email to jstachowiak     
In looking at the 2002 Towing guide I have for all trucks, even the smallest 2 dr. S-10/Sonoma pickup with a 2.2 V-4 engine tows 3,200 lb. V-6 shows 4,000lb. to 5,800lb. dependent on transmission, rear axle, etc.
Captain Billy posted 12-18-2003 12:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Captain Billy  Send Email to Captain Billy     
Just bought the SRX last week for my wife. She loves it. We got the V8 and it drives like a sports car! I love to drive it when she lets me. Did not care about towing, I have to us a 3500 to tow the boat. If you need some room inside, but want to still feel like you are driving a sports car, give one a try.
Bigshot posted 12-18-2003 02:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I saw one up close at the porsche dealer last week. Neat truck but 5 stacks of high society is pretty steep for it.
f14bombcat posted 12-18-2003 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for f14bombcat  Send Email to f14bombcat     
Had the pleasure in riding one of the V8's. Man, what a powerful car, especially when mated to the 4 wheel drive; it doesn't feel like it would leave the road! I was a little disappointed with the 3500 pound capacity, I would have thought about 5,000 pounds.
Island Bwoy 420 posted 12-21-2003 02:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Island Bwoy 420  Send Email to Island Bwoy 420     
To add to the Saab comments I will just let everyone know how safe they are, and why we have 7 in my family. I was driving on the a race track and racing some friends on the way. I lost control of the car and 2 rolled it twice upside down into a ditch in the middle of nowhere. I climbed out of the car completely untouched! I would been dead on impact in anything else. We cut the 900 apart and when I saw the thickness of the steel I understood why it saved my life. The current cars we have are 5 Pre-93 900's a 9000 CSE Turbo (93) and a 9-5 Aero Wagon! GO SAAB! Oh yeah and they can tow, a zodiac anyway lol.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 12-22-2003 11:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
a Renault????*shuddering at the thought of the "le Car"*I think i'll pass on that one
nevada posted 12-22-2003 12:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for nevada  Send Email to nevada     
Island Bwoy,

I see an ignition cassette or two in your near future. :)


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