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Mobjack posted 06-13-2006 05:26 PM ET (US)   Profile for Mobjack   Send Email to Mobjack  
I posted a reply on another thread the other day where the guy was asking suggestions about repowering his montauk, and I talked about how I had seen something on this site about a month back maybe where a guy was talking about having twin 40s on his montauk. Does anyone else remember this? Is this feasible, as far as the size and weight of the engines are concerned, especially with the size of the montauk transom cutout?
As far as seaworthy goes, a montauk is all you need to fish some big water in decent weather(not always the most comfortable) but having that other screw back there really gives you a lot of comfort when you are thirty miles from home.

I grew up on a 22 outrage whaler drive with twin 200s and I think it would be very cool to have twin 40s(dare I say 50's) on a montauk. Mine has a 1983 75 horse on it that, while low hours, is only so far from the grave. Hopefully I can milk it along for a few more years, but repowering is definitely in my future.

Whats the general consensus on this idea? bonehead or possibility?

JBCornwell posted 06-13-2006 06:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
When I visited Bimini back in the early 80s I saw several 16s with twins, mostly OMC 50s but at least one with twin OMC 40s.

From watching I got the impression that they were stern heavy, slow for 100hp and handled like barges. Made me glad I had a single OMC 70 on my Sakonnet.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

Buckda posted 06-13-2006 06:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
There have been several reported “sightings” of these creatures.

I believe it represents the extreme of the 17’ boat operators and am not certain that it gains you any range.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006741.html

In the following report, it is suggested that the rigging may be problematic because of the size of the boat. One would suggest that if you decide to do it, you should be very careful and thoughtful in how you lay out the rigging to make it “look right.”

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000040.html

Here is one that was for sale (and recently!)

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/011277.html

I believe the fact that a few brave souls have done it is testament to it’s feasibility; however, as far as advisability, I’m not so sure.

This hull was not designed to accommodate twin motors. Where I to attempt to add a second main motor to the hull, I would first investigate my options for strengthening/reinforcing the hull to accommodate the weight and stress of the motors being mounted to an area of the hull not designed for that kind of load. Load distribution bars or a hefty aluminum or stainless steel plate would do the trick, but would have to be customized to look attractive.

Your batteries would need to be moved to the console, and it would be a very tight fit in that rather small rigging tunnel for all of your rigging (You may NOT be able to move the batteries to the console for this reason!). Remember - you will have two hydraulic lines, four battery cables (2 positive, 2 negative), a SONAR transducer line, your fuel hose and perhaps a VHF antenna (RG-8X? – assuming you want an 8’ Antenna mounted to the rear rail for offshore range) in that tunnel…and that does not include a fuel-flow meter wiring, etc.

All of these mods are major projects…and then you will have to patch the old holes from the original motor.

If you truly, genuinely feel safer when offshore in a boat with two main engines, rather than your current boat with a new main and a kicker, you should consider upgrading to a hull that was designed to accommodate twin engines.

The smallest classic hull to have this design, I believe, is the 18’ Outrage. It is possible that I may be overlooking the older, classic 17’ Outrages (A little help here? – this is a fairly rare model).

Even with the design allowance for twin engines on the 18’ Outrage, it is fairly rare to spot one. I’ve seen two in person, and I own one of them (and converted it from a single).

There are plenty of arguments against powering with twin engines in this day of modern outboard technology. I may be a ninny, but I just felt better with two engines back there.

The versatility of the 18’ Outrage hull is one of the reasons that is so well-loved on this site. It’s big enough for twins, can challenge much of the big water that it’s larger sibling models can operate in, and yet, it can generally be stored in most larger garages at home.

If upgrading is not an option for you, and there are many reasons why it wouldn’t be…I wish I had bought a Montauk as my first Whaler, then you should consider repowering with a nice reliable new engine and a same-brand/technology kicker. A Yamaha F90 with a T8 kicker would be a nice combination.

Teak Oil posted 06-13-2006 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Twin four cylinder Mercs would look cool on the back, but it would be slower and handle worse than a single 100. Plus I think you would need 15" shafts, which are hard to find

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