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andyroo posted 06-14-2006 05:38 PM ET (US)
I'm graduating from a 28foot caribbean king-fiber canoe to something a bit more user firendly: a mid-80's 17 foot montauk.
The waves around here (Montego Bay, Jamaica) build over the morning, often when i'm working underwater (i'm a grad student working in coral restoration). The waves will usually be up 2-4 feet on the way back home. Short, wind-driven chop. The canoe would get a good hammering, but i could keep at a good throttle without getting too bad as it was so long.
Is a Montauk with an E-Tec 90 an appropriate set-up for these conditions? Will i end up at five foot five with a bad back by the time i finish school?
A

Teak Oil posted 06-14-2006 06:35 PM ET (US)
Short, close chop is typical of Great Lakes' wave action, and the Montauk handles it well. Use of a hydrofoil or trim tabs helps in this situation, as you can back down to about 12 knots and still maintain plane. This is critical because the Montauk will become airborne easily at 20mph in five foot waves lol.
If you are going to constantly be in 2-4 ft waves (not rollers) I would get an Outrage or a Dauntless (18), but if it is going to be an occasional occurance the Montauk will be fine
fairdeal2u posted 06-16-2006 01:44 PM ET (US)
4 feet is not a small windchop.
Is there any swell?
If it is chop, the whaler will stay on top of it. If it is a swell that launches the boat, you will get beat to death pounding against it.
five foot every five seconds is about the max that you want to deal with.
2 foot chop with no swell..ok.
2 foot chop with a 5-8 foot swell....rough.
Get a 18-19 footer with at least 18 degree deadrise boat.
andyroo posted 06-17-2006 11:23 AM ET (US)
Thanks, folks.
Most days i think i'll be OK, though I think i'm going to be pretty borderline on this in terms of the outer limits of this hull design. I'll set my work schedule for early in the AM and bring a fishing rod for the slow running rough days.
I'd love to go for a heavier-duty hull, but this is what's availible on-island and within budget.
And well, i'm the the local marine park's de-facto manager, so i can always just buoy the inner channels for quick homeward returns ;)
I'll keep you posted,

Andrew

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Author	Topic: Montauk in the briney chop
andyroo	posted 06-14-2006 05:38 PM ET (US) I'm graduating from a 28foot caribbean king-fiber canoe to something a bit more user firendly: a mid-80's 17 foot montauk. The waves around here (Montego Bay, Jamaica) build over the morning, often when i'm working underwater (i'm a grad student working in coral restoration). The waves will usually be up 2-4 feet on the way back home. Short, wind-driven chop. The canoe would get a good hammering, but i could keep at a good throttle without getting too bad as it was so long. Is a Montauk with an E-Tec 90 an appropriate set-up for these conditions? Will i end up at five foot five with a bad back by the time i finish school? A
Teak Oil	posted 06-14-2006 06:35 PM ET (US) Short, close chop is typical of Great Lakes' wave action, and the Montauk handles it well. Use of a hydrofoil or trim tabs helps in this situation, as you can back down to about 12 knots and still maintain plane. This is critical because the Montauk will become airborne easily at 20mph in five foot waves lol. If you are going to constantly be in 2-4 ft waves (not rollers) I would get an Outrage or a Dauntless (18), but if it is going to be an occasional occurance the Montauk will be fine
fairdeal2u	posted 06-16-2006 01:44 PM ET (US) 4 feet is not a small windchop. Is there any swell? If it is chop, the whaler will stay on top of it. If it is a swell that launches the boat, you will get beat to death pounding against it. five foot every five seconds is about the max that you want to deal with. 2 foot chop with no swell..ok. 2 foot chop with a 5-8 foot swell....rough. Get a 18-19 footer with at least 18 degree deadrise boat.
andyroo	posted 06-17-2006 11:23 AM ET (US) Thanks, folks. Most days i think i'll be OK, though I think i'm going to be pretty borderline on this in terms of the outer limits of this hull design. I'll set my work schedule for early in the AM and bring a fishing rod for the slow running rough days. I'd love to go for a heavier-duty hull, but this is what's availible on-island and within budget. And well, i'm the the local marine park's de-facto manager, so i can always just buoy the inner channels for quick homeward returns ;) I'll keep you posted, Andrew