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merc125 posted 08-18-2007 09:53 PM ET (US)
I'm not quite sure how it happened, but I now own a 1977 11 foot Standard, no power. I would like to hear your suggestions for used two-stroke power. How much horsepower does it take to plane one of these? I don't have much experience with smaller outboards, low price, and reliabilty will be big factors in any purchase, as this will be my 13 year old's boat. Thanks MmartyD
contender posted 08-18-2007 09:57 PM ET (US)
nothing bigger than a 25, and I would go with a 2 stroke, you are lucky I'm been looking for one of these size whaler for a while for my son...good luck
cgodfrey posted 08-18-2007 11:09 PM ET (US)
I'd imagine a 15hp 4 stroke would be suitable
PeteB88 posted 08-18-2007 11:34 PM ET (US)
Check the archives - lots on this topic - 25 best all around, can get sketchy at speed - versatile because you can take 25 off (if tiller) and put on 9.9 or 7 hp for less experienced operators or kids.
whaler131 posted 08-19-2007 01:41 AM ET (US)
I have on mine a 25 Evinrude 2005 short shaft and it pushes me at 27 mph. I love it
Barney posted 08-19-2007 08:22 AM ET (US)
I've got the 15HP Yamaha 2 stroke on mine and really like it with two people. I mounted it with bolts for a little more safety. These small outboards are easy to steal.
http://myweb.cableone.net/barney9014/classic.htm
Jim
fno posted 08-19-2007 08:25 AM ET (US)
Merc, you need to clarify whether it is a tiller steered or has a wheel. Makes a difference in how much HP can be used. I have a 20 tiller steered on mine and wouldn't let the kids use it on a daily basis. Too much power for them, keep it to 10 or 15 HP for them.
Stevebaz posted 08-20-2007 11:47 AM ET (US)
my 1979 11' sport with cable steering is suposed to be 20 Hp max. A standard tiller steer is suposed to be 15 hp max. Mine is powered with a 1982 mercury 25 2 stroke and with 600 lbs additional weight in the boat I have clocked almost 27mph on gps. This for me is scary fast in such a little boat and I would not trust an inexperienced kid with this much power until they get some real behind the wheel time. Put in a small light weight kid in such a small boat with very low waterline as these boats have and this much power mistakes can happen very fast. Make damn sure he leaves with life jacket strapped on and kill switch attached. remember this is a skiff not a jet ski it will not cut wakes like a jet ski can. Personally if I were handing it to a kid and watching them sail off I would power with no more than 9hp and let them live with that for at least a couple of years before moving up to maxium HP.
Tohsgib posted 08-20-2007 12:01 PM ET (US)
Tiller is 10hp max but I would go with a 15 if you want.
AEJIII posted 08-20-2007 03:47 PM ET (US)
I have a 1988 11 sport( with steering wheel) and a 20 hp 1988 evinrude, With me (165 lbs) and 6 gallons of gas it will hit 30 mph on the gps. Many of my friends were thrown out of 11's and 13's as teenagers, one lost a leg, but nobody else hurt. not boats fault, but they are a little skittish at speed. I would go with a 15 or less with kids operating.
merc125 posted 08-20-2007 06:21 PM ET (US)
It is a standard, so its a tiller boat. It took one hard hit to the bottom, that I need to repair. Even though he's a good kid and on the water all day in a sailing program, the 9.9 sounds like the way to go.
Is there much difference in the small omc or merc motors? I don't have much experience with the smaller motors, any advice as to what years or models to avoid would be helpful. Thanks MartyD
captbone posted 08-20-2007 06:22 PM ET (US)
The 20hp Honda is very nice and at 102lbs it is perfect for this application. Just my 2 cents.
Tohsgib posted 08-21-2007 01:22 PM ET (US)
In my opinion all the smaller engines are great no matter what brand. The Mercs are easier to work on because they are not set down in the cowl like older OMC's. Should be easy to find a nice used one for under $700.
contender posted 08-21-2007 03:56 PM ET (US)
Would you want to sell the hull?
jimh posted 08-21-2007 08:47 PM ET (US)
Moved to PERFORMANCE where it can join the thousands of other discussions about re-powering classic Boston Whaler boats.
merc125 posted 08-23-2007 05:03 AM ET (US)
I don't think I want to sell yet.
My main question now is will a 9.9 plane this boat with an adult and a teen aboard? Thanks MartyD

reely mine posted 08-23-2007 04:43 PM ET (US)
i have driven fno's 11 with a 20 tiller merc i'm only 15 but it has a whole lot of power not for unexperenced opperators
Ranjr13 posted 08-23-2007 05:48 PM ET (US)
I have a 20 2stroke on my 11 - I put a set of doel fins on it and it acts like it has a 30 on it. The 11 likes to plow water until you're up on a plane, so if you can get it some lift, you will have much better performance. Thus you could get by with a 15 - I wouldn't go smaller, and have the performance similar to a 20hp.
Bob
Skipjack 17 posted 08-26-2007 07:44 PM ET (US)
Hello merc125, I have a mint 9.9 Evinrude that would make that boat plan very well. If you interested please let me know..Bob
merc125 posted 08-27-2007 05:36 AM ET (US)
You can post or email details and price .

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Author	Topic: 11 Standard: Re-power with Two-Stroke
merc125	posted 08-18-2007 09:53 PM ET (US) I'm not quite sure how it happened, but I now own a 1977 11 foot Standard, no power. I would like to hear your suggestions for used two-stroke power. How much horsepower does it take to plane one of these? I don't have much experience with smaller outboards, low price, and reliabilty will be big factors in any purchase, as this will be my 13 year old's boat. Thanks MmartyD
contender	posted 08-18-2007 09:57 PM ET (US) nothing bigger than a 25, and I would go with a 2 stroke, you are lucky I'm been looking for one of these size whaler for a while for my son...good luck
cgodfrey	posted 08-18-2007 11:09 PM ET (US) I'd imagine a 15hp 4 stroke would be suitable
PeteB88	posted 08-18-2007 11:34 PM ET (US) Check the archives - lots on this topic - 25 best all around, can get sketchy at speed - versatile because you can take 25 off (if tiller) and put on 9.9 or 7 hp for less experienced operators or kids.
whaler131	posted 08-19-2007 01:41 AM ET (US) I have on mine a 25 Evinrude 2005 short shaft and it pushes me at 27 mph. I love it
Barney	posted 08-19-2007 08:22 AM ET (US) I've got the 15HP Yamaha 2 stroke on mine and really like it with two people. I mounted it with bolts for a little more safety. These small outboards are easy to steal. http://myweb.cableone.net/barney9014/classic.htm Jim
fno	posted 08-19-2007 08:25 AM ET (US) Merc, you need to clarify whether it is a tiller steered or has a wheel. Makes a difference in how much HP can be used. I have a 20 tiller steered on mine and wouldn't let the kids use it on a daily basis. Too much power for them, keep it to 10 or 15 HP for them.
Stevebaz	posted 08-20-2007 11:47 AM ET (US) my 1979 11' sport with cable steering is suposed to be 20 Hp max. A standard tiller steer is suposed to be 15 hp max. Mine is powered with a 1982 mercury 25 2 stroke and with 600 lbs additional weight in the boat I have clocked almost 27mph on gps. This for me is scary fast in such a little boat and I would not trust an inexperienced kid with this much power until they get some real behind the wheel time. Put in a small light weight kid in such a small boat with very low waterline as these boats have and this much power mistakes can happen very fast. Make damn sure he leaves with life jacket strapped on and kill switch attached. remember this is a skiff not a jet ski it will not cut wakes like a jet ski can. Personally if I were handing it to a kid and watching them sail off I would power with no more than 9hp and let them live with that for at least a couple of years before moving up to maxium HP.
Tohsgib	posted 08-20-2007 12:01 PM ET (US) Tiller is 10hp max but I would go with a 15 if you want.
AEJIII	posted 08-20-2007 03:47 PM ET (US) I have a 1988 11 sport( with steering wheel) and a 20 hp 1988 evinrude, With me (165 lbs) and 6 gallons of gas it will hit 30 mph on the gps. Many of my friends were thrown out of 11's and 13's as teenagers, one lost a leg, but nobody else hurt. not boats fault, but they are a little skittish at speed. I would go with a 15 or less with kids operating.
merc125	posted 08-20-2007 06:21 PM ET (US) It is a standard, so its a tiller boat. It took one hard hit to the bottom, that I need to repair. Even though he's a good kid and on the water all day in a sailing program, the 9.9 sounds like the way to go. Is there much difference in the small omc or merc motors? I don't have much experience with the smaller motors, any advice as to what years or models to avoid would be helpful. Thanks MartyD
captbone	posted 08-20-2007 06:22 PM ET (US) The 20hp Honda is very nice and at 102lbs it is perfect for this application. Just my 2 cents.
Tohsgib	posted 08-21-2007 01:22 PM ET (US) In my opinion all the smaller engines are great no matter what brand. The Mercs are easier to work on because they are not set down in the cowl like older OMC's. Should be easy to find a nice used one for under $700.
contender	posted 08-21-2007 03:56 PM ET (US) Would you want to sell the hull?
jimh	posted 08-21-2007 08:47 PM ET (US) Moved to PERFORMANCE where it can join the thousands of other discussions about re-powering classic Boston Whaler boats.
merc125	posted 08-23-2007 05:03 AM ET (US) I don't think I want to sell yet. My main question now is will a 9.9 plane this boat with an adult and a teen aboard? Thanks MartyD
reely mine	posted 08-23-2007 04:43 PM ET (US) i have driven fno's 11 with a 20 tiller merc i'm only 15 but it has a whole lot of power not for unexperenced opperators
Ranjr13	posted 08-23-2007 05:48 PM ET (US) I have a 20 2stroke on my 11 - I put a set of doel fins on it and it acts like it has a 30 on it. The 11 likes to plow water until you're up on a plane, so if you can get it some lift, you will have much better performance. Thus you could get by with a 15 - I wouldn't go smaller, and have the performance similar to a 20hp. Bob
Skipjack 17	posted 08-26-2007 07:44 PM ET (US) Hello merc125, I have a mint 9.9 Evinrude that would make that boat plan very well. If you interested please let me know..Bob
merc125	posted 08-27-2007 05:36 AM ET (US) You can post or email details and price .