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jimh posted 01-27-2010 06:43 AM ET (US)
Boston Whaler's new 22-foot center console, the 220 OUTRAGE, permits choice of single or twin engine power. The return to offering twin engine power in a 22-footer is an interesting change in design. For some time the boats from Boston Whaler in this size range were generally fitted only with single engines. On the 220 OUTRAGE Boston Whaler offers the option of twin 115-HP FOURSTROKE Mercury engines, as well as single Verado engines from 225 to 300-HP.
In terms of fuel economy, the twin 115-HP engines (AKA Veradito engines) will run the boat at a moderate cruising speed of 25.7-MPH and get 3.1-MPG. In contrast, a 250-HP VERADO will cruise at 26-MPH and get almost 3.4-MPG.
Curiously, the 225-HP VERADO can only peak the cruising fuel economy at 3.07-MPG and 26.4-MPH. The 300-HP option does not break 2.95-MPG.
There is some variation in weight among the test boats, and the data was collected several months apart, creating the potential for some variation in the test conditions and thus the results. The propeller pitch is increased one-inch in the 250-HP and 300-HP models. This probably contributes to the better cruising fuel economy in the 250-HP boat.
Top speeds are as follows:
225-HP = 45.8-MPH
250-HP = 50.9-MPH
300-HP = 54.2-MPH
2 x 115-HP = 41.9-MPH
There is a noticeable penalty in speed with the twin engine set-up (230-HP total) compared to the 250-HP single rigging. The specifications call for a minimum power of 225-HP. From that information is seems unlikely a single 115-HP from the twin engine set-up could get the boat on plane.
Source: http://www.whaler.com/site_media/Performance_Data/220OR_EnginePerf_.pdf
More information:
http://www.whaler.com/boats/boat-220outrage/

Peter posted 01-27-2010 09:11 AM ET (US)
The test reports indicate that the twin 115 powered Outrage had a T-top, the 225 Verado powered specimen does not. Some of that speed penalty has to be attributed to the T-Top.
According to the test report, the 250 powered Outrage had a T-top, the 300 Verado powered rig did not. So it would appear that there is a bigger gap between the 225 and 250 Verado powered Outrages.
Also, while the 250 and 300 Verados are turning the same Enertia propeller, they are doing so through different gearcase ratios (1.85:1 vs. 1.75:1).
number9 posted 01-27-2010 12:23 PM ET (US)
Noticed the second test with the twins using different gear ratio/props performed better, +2mph. Did Mercury change the gear ratio of the 115 from previous years?
jimh posted 01-27-2010 01:31 PM ET (US)
Oh boy--I did not notice the major change of a T-Top among the boats being tested. A T-Top would certainly slow down any boat, or at least make it consume more fuel at the same speed.
jimh posted 01-29-2010 08:40 AM ET (US)
The test results including notation of T-Top, gear ratio, and propeller:
225-HP = 45.8-MPH without T-Top; 1.85:1 gear; ENERTIA 15
250-HP = 50.9-MPH with T-Top; 1.85:1; ENERTIA 18
300-HP = 54.2-MPH without T-TOP;1.75:1; ENERTIA 18
2 x 115-HP = 41.9-MPH without T-TOP; 2.07:1; VENGEANCE 15
2 x 115-HP = 43.8-MPH with T-TOP; 2.33:1; VENGEANCE 18
number9 posted 01-29-2010 10:28 AM ET (US)
Much of the the additional 450-650 lbs. weight of the twin powered test boats is always going to be there, but.
Wouldn't we get a better idea of true fuel efficiency if all boats were tested at the same weights?
Tom W Clark posted 01-29-2010 11:15 AM ET (US)
A comparison of the 250 Verado vs. the 300 verado also includes a comparison between a boat without a T-top and one with a T-top.
If a 220 Outrage with 250 HP can go 50.9 MPH, we would expect it to be able to go 55.8 MPH with 300 HP, ceteris paribus.
With the addition of the T-top, the speed drops to 54.2 MPH, about a 3 percent reduction from that estimate.
We don't really know if the test conditions were perfectly identical for those two boats, but assuming there were, a T-Top would seem to come with about a 3 percent performance cost.
Tom W Clark posted 01-29-2010 11:21 AM ET (US)
No wait, I have that completely backwards. The boat with the T-top is the one with the Verado 250.
The boat without the T-top is the boat with the Verado 300.
What do we make of that? The boat with the 300 should go 55.8 MPH even before being eased of the burden of carrying the T-top.
Perhaps the T-top enhances performance, acting as a foil to help generate lift and reduce drag?
Perhaps the Verado 300 is not really what it is cracked up to be?
Tom W Clark posted 01-29-2010 11:38 AM ET (US)
Bill makes a good observation, there are two tests of this boat with twin 115s, but the gear ratios and propeller pitches are different.
Again, the boat with the T-top is faster, but it is the one with the 2.33:1 gear ratio 115s and 18" Vengeance props.
Is the 115 FourStroke available with a choice of gear ratios?
dbrown posted 01-29-2010 03:07 PM ET (US)
Starting (sometime) in 2009, Mercury 115 FourStrokes starting using the 2.33:1 gearcase. The first test with twin 115's was done in August of 2008 and had the previous 2.07:1 gearcase.
L H G posted 01-29-2010 04:39 PM ET (US)
Trailer Boats magazine shows this boat, with a 300 Verado, and no trailer, as $118,500. That's ridiculous. Buyers will be few and far between optioned out like that.
Makes a beautiful 18 Outrage at 25K look like a bargain.
jimh posted 01-29-2010 09:15 PM ET (US)
Tom--I was thinking the same thing: the T-Top might enhance performance by providing lift. It would be something like the inverse of a NASCAR air foil used to create down force.
SJUAE posted 01-30-2010 01:08 AM ET (US)
Just checked the old BW published performance data for my 210 that has a similar T-Top.
Unfortunately none of the tests included the T-Top to help confirm the lift theory.
The twins also don’t have DTS and there seems some confusion on the vessel view display as an accessory not available, opposed to an option.
The deluxe seats seem to lose the grab rails and the aft quarters are now lost to tackle draws and transom door.
RTM
118K I think that’s over 20K more than the now discontinued 210 at its maxed-out price.
Regards
Steve
Peter posted 01-30-2010 07:06 AM ET (US)
Whaler's configurator for this boat charges nearly $10,000 for a aluminum trailer. That's about 2.5 times the street price for an aluminum trailer. Yikes. My guess is that they really don't want to sell trailers for this boat.
jimh posted 01-30-2010 09:38 AM ET (US)
Since Boston Whaler does not manufacture the trailer themselves, and their volume of trailers for this model will probably be small, they most likely are buying the trailer at a small discount and then marking it back to full retail price or higher. However, even allowing for that explanation, you'd better get one helluva nice trailer for $10,000.
jimh posted 01-30-2010 11:13 PM ET (US)
According to TRAILER BOATS (and my issue just arrived today), this new hull has a deeper v-hull than prior models in this size range.
onlyawhaler posted 02-03-2010 01:09 PM ET (US)
I like this boat alot. Not classic, but a nice modern trailerable outrage and with a 300hp max rating it flies. This would be "modern" choice for me. With a transom wide for twins, a big single with room for a kicker without need for a bracket is attractive
Here is a youtube video of this model that shows alot more detail than Boston Whalers site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImcIxkShr4
Mambo Minnow posted 02-07-2010 05:13 PM ET (US)
I went to the Jax boat show this weekend. I got a look at the Outrage 250, cousin to the 220.
I was equipped with twin 200 Verados. I was surprised because I believe they were the I-4 models vice the I-6 models. I thought of the I-4 model as more of a single application model. I would surmise the I-4s are lighter in weight, but I was not sure the gear ratio was ideal for such a heavy boat (5500 lbs).

Also, this boat has a 9 foot beam, so too wide to trailer without permits. The 220 is definitely the max for trailer boating.
jimh posted 02-07-2010 05:23 PM ET (US)
Boston Whaler boats of 25-foot and longer have generally always been available with twin engines. What I thought was most remarkable about the new 220 OUTRAGE was the return to having the option of twin engines on a boat of only 22-foot length.
The performance of the smaller VERADO four-cylinder engine was the topic of a controversial discussion held previously that resulted from a demonstration ride on a boat with twin four-cylinder Verado engines:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/006935.html

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Author	Topic: New 220 OUTRAGE Power Options
jimh	posted 01-27-2010 06:43 AM ET (US) Boston Whaler's new 22-foot center console, the 220 OUTRAGE, permits choice of single or twin engine power. The return to offering twin engine power in a 22-footer is an interesting change in design. For some time the boats from Boston Whaler in this size range were generally fitted only with single engines. On the 220 OUTRAGE Boston Whaler offers the option of twin 115-HP FOURSTROKE Mercury engines, as well as single Verado engines from 225 to 300-HP. In terms of fuel economy, the twin 115-HP engines (AKA Veradito engines) will run the boat at a moderate cruising speed of 25.7-MPH and get 3.1-MPG. In contrast, a 250-HP VERADO will cruise at 26-MPH and get almost 3.4-MPG. Curiously, the 225-HP VERADO can only peak the cruising fuel economy at 3.07-MPG and 26.4-MPH. The 300-HP option does not break 2.95-MPG. There is some variation in weight among the test boats, and the data was collected several months apart, creating the potential for some variation in the test conditions and thus the results. The propeller pitch is increased one-inch in the 250-HP and 300-HP models. This probably contributes to the better cruising fuel economy in the 250-HP boat. Top speeds are as follows: 225-HP = 45.8-MPH 250-HP = 50.9-MPH 300-HP = 54.2-MPH 2 x 115-HP = 41.9-MPH There is a noticeable penalty in speed with the twin engine set-up (230-HP total) compared to the 250-HP single rigging. The specifications call for a minimum power of 225-HP. From that information is seems unlikely a single 115-HP from the twin engine set-up could get the boat on plane. Source: http://www.whaler.com/site_media/Performance_Data/220OR_EnginePerf_.pdf More information: http://www.whaler.com/boats/boat-220outrage/
Peter	posted 01-27-2010 09:11 AM ET (US) The test reports indicate that the twin 115 powered Outrage had a T-top, the 225 Verado powered specimen does not. Some of that speed penalty has to be attributed to the T-Top. According to the test report, the 250 powered Outrage had a T-top, the 300 Verado powered rig did not. So it would appear that there is a bigger gap between the 225 and 250 Verado powered Outrages. Also, while the 250 and 300 Verados are turning the same Enertia propeller, they are doing so through different gearcase ratios (1.85:1 vs. 1.75:1).
number9	posted 01-27-2010 12:23 PM ET (US) Noticed the second test with the twins using different gear ratio/props performed better, +2mph. Did Mercury change the gear ratio of the 115 from previous years?
jimh	posted 01-27-2010 01:31 PM ET (US) Oh boy--I did not notice the major change of a T-Top among the boats being tested. A T-Top would certainly slow down any boat, or at least make it consume more fuel at the same speed.
jimh	posted 01-29-2010 08:40 AM ET (US) The test results including notation of T-Top, gear ratio, and propeller: 225-HP = 45.8-MPH without T-Top; 1.85:1 gear; ENERTIA 15 250-HP = 50.9-MPH with T-Top; 1.85:1; ENERTIA 18 300-HP = 54.2-MPH without T-TOP;1.75:1; ENERTIA 18 2 x 115-HP = 41.9-MPH without T-TOP; 2.07:1; VENGEANCE 15 2 x 115-HP = 43.8-MPH with T-TOP; 2.33:1; VENGEANCE 18
number9	posted 01-29-2010 10:28 AM ET (US) Much of the the additional 450-650 lbs. weight of the twin powered test boats is always going to be there, but. Wouldn't we get a better idea of true fuel efficiency if all boats were tested at the same weights?
Tom W Clark	posted 01-29-2010 11:15 AM ET (US) A comparison of the 250 Verado vs. the 300 verado also includes a comparison between a boat without a T-top and one with a T-top. If a 220 Outrage with 250 HP can go 50.9 MPH, we would expect it to be able to go 55.8 MPH with 300 HP, ceteris paribus. With the addition of the T-top, the speed drops to 54.2 MPH, about a 3 percent reduction from that estimate. We don't really know if the test conditions were perfectly identical for those two boats, but assuming there were, a T-Top would seem to come with about a 3 percent performance cost.
Tom W Clark	posted 01-29-2010 11:21 AM ET (US) No wait, I have that completely backwards. The boat with the T-top is the one with the Verado 250. The boat without the T-top is the boat with the Verado 300. What do we make of that? The boat with the 300 should go 55.8 MPH even before being eased of the burden of carrying the T-top. Perhaps the T-top enhances performance, acting as a foil to help generate lift and reduce drag? Perhaps the Verado 300 is not really what it is cracked up to be?
Tom W Clark	posted 01-29-2010 11:38 AM ET (US) Bill makes a good observation, there are two tests of this boat with twin 115s, but the gear ratios and propeller pitches are different. Again, the boat with the T-top is faster, but it is the one with the 2.33:1 gear ratio 115s and 18" Vengeance props. Is the 115 FourStroke available with a choice of gear ratios?
dbrown	posted 01-29-2010 03:07 PM ET (US) Starting (sometime) in 2009, Mercury 115 FourStrokes starting using the 2.33:1 gearcase. The first test with twin 115's was done in August of 2008 and had the previous 2.07:1 gearcase.
L H G	posted 01-29-2010 04:39 PM ET (US) Trailer Boats magazine shows this boat, with a 300 Verado, and no trailer, as $118,500. That's ridiculous. Buyers will be few and far between optioned out like that. Makes a beautiful 18 Outrage at 25K look like a bargain.
jimh	posted 01-29-2010 09:15 PM ET (US) Tom--I was thinking the same thing: the T-Top might enhance performance by providing lift. It would be something like the inverse of a NASCAR air foil used to create down force.
SJUAE	posted 01-30-2010 01:08 AM ET (US) Just checked the old BW published performance data for my 210 that has a similar T-Top. Unfortunately none of the tests included the T-Top to help confirm the lift theory. The twins also don’t have DTS and there seems some confusion on the vessel view display as an accessory not available, opposed to an option. The deluxe seats seem to lose the grab rails and the aft quarters are now lost to tackle draws and transom door. RTM 118K I think that’s over 20K more than the now discontinued 210 at its maxed-out price. Regards Steve
Peter	posted 01-30-2010 07:06 AM ET (US) Whaler's configurator for this boat charges nearly $10,000 for a aluminum trailer. That's about 2.5 times the street price for an aluminum trailer. Yikes. My guess is that they really don't want to sell trailers for this boat.
jimh	posted 01-30-2010 09:38 AM ET (US) Since Boston Whaler does not manufacture the trailer themselves, and their volume of trailers for this model will probably be small, they most likely are buying the trailer at a small discount and then marking it back to full retail price or higher. However, even allowing for that explanation, you'd better get one helluva nice trailer for $10,000.
jimh	posted 01-30-2010 11:13 PM ET (US) According to TRAILER BOATS (and my issue just arrived today), this new hull has a deeper v-hull than prior models in this size range.
onlyawhaler	posted 02-03-2010 01:09 PM ET (US) I like this boat alot. Not classic, but a nice modern trailerable outrage and with a 300hp max rating it flies. This would be "modern" choice for me. With a transom wide for twins, a big single with room for a kicker without need for a bracket is attractive Here is a youtube video of this model that shows alot more detail than Boston Whalers site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImcIxkShr4
Mambo Minnow	posted 02-07-2010 05:13 PM ET (US) I went to the Jax boat show this weekend. I got a look at the Outrage 250, cousin to the 220. I was equipped with twin 200 Verados. I was surprised because I believe they were the I-4 models vice the I-6 models. I thought of the I-4 model as more of a single application model. I would surmise the I-4s are lighter in weight, but I was not sure the gear ratio was ideal for such a heavy boat (5500 lbs). Also, this boat has a 9 foot beam, so too wide to trailer without permits. The 220 is definitely the max for trailer boating.
jimh	posted 02-07-2010 05:23 PM ET (US) Boston Whaler boats of 25-foot and longer have generally always been available with twin engines. What I thought was most remarkable about the new 220 OUTRAGE was the return to having the option of twin engines on a boat of only 22-foot length. The performance of the smaller VERADO four-cylinder engine was the topic of a controversial discussion held previously that resulted from a demonstration ride on a boat with twin four-cylinder Verado engines: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/006935.html