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cmeichler33 posted 08-28-2010 08:48 PM ET (US)
I was thinking of repowering my 1979 15 Sport with a new 60 Evinrude. I would like to know if anyone has this motor, what they think of it, set up, mph, performance. Any info would be much appreciated.
tedious posted 08-28-2010 09:28 PM ET (US)
Try a search on "etec AND 60 and 15" and you'll find quite a bit of info.
Tim
cmeichler33 posted 08-28-2010 09:46 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tim!
tedious posted 08-29-2010 05:37 AM ET (US)
Even better if I had remembered to capitalize the second "AND" but hopefully it worked for you. Good luck with the repower - I wish Evinrude made an eTec 70!
Tim
Sal DiMercurio posted 08-30-2010 03:10 PM ET (US)
E-TECH makes a 75 hp that most insurance companies would let slide, as it's only 5 hp over maximum rateing for that boat.
Sal
tedious posted 08-30-2010 05:17 PM ET (US)
Sal, the 5 horsepower for the eTec 75 isn't worth the extra 63 pounds over the F70. Using Crouch's calculator and a base boat weight of 950 pounds, the difference in speed predicts to be only 0.4 MPH - 43.7 for the eTec 75, 43.3 for the F70. Not worth the potential insurance hassle, at least not to me.
For reference, the eTec 60 comes in at 40.4.
Note that I am not saying that Yamahas are better than Evinrudes or 4 strokes are better than 2; it's just that when weight is a factor, as it is with the 15, you're better off at the high horsepower point for a given block size.
Tim
cmeichler33 posted 08-30-2010 10:45 PM ET (US)
40 mph sounds good for me. The 75 ETEC weighs too much, I thought about it but that extra weight takes away that 15 horses...not worth it in my eyes. But thanks for everyones input. I woudld definently be happy if Evinrude came out with a 70 HP. That I would take in a heart beat!
Tohsgib posted 08-30-2010 11:03 PM ET (US)
E-Tec 40-60hp do not seem to be great top speed engines, some say due to gearcase drag. I say it is a 2cyl and what can you expect? Any 60hp will fetch you 40mph on a 15' so shop around and buy what you want and make sure you have a good dealer network if that makes you happy.
10000 Lakes posted 08-31-2010 02:18 AM ET (US)
Early 15's were labeled to 75hp. Then Whaler reduced the rating to 70 max due to squirrley habits of the fifteen footer at high speeds the interest of liability. I have an original dealer letter in my file documenting this fact.
Check your label!
dgoodhue posted 08-31-2010 06:14 AM ET (US)
When the smaller ETEC's were being released BRP listed a 240# 70hp 2 cylinder E-TEC. It never came and was drop from BRP literature. I would love to see that engine someday.
If you can get away with an overpowered 15', I would buy 90hp E-TEC that weighs the same as a 75 E-TEC (320#'s) Otherwise I would buy 60hp E-TEC if you were looking to buy an E-TEC.
Tohsgib posted 08-31-2010 10:32 AM ET (US)
I think only 1975 15's were 75hp.
Yamaha makes the only light 70hp. I have been on a 15 with a 90 e-tec and it was silly at 52mph. Weight was not bad on her but price is a major concern.
cmeichler33 posted 08-31-2010 09:46 PM ET (US)
Thank you for all the imput...Im on the fence about what exact set up I want but I love Evinrude. Ive had a few of them with very little problems. Right now I have a 1978 55HP Johnson, the powerhead was rebuilt in 1988 and is still going strong. I have a lot of hours on her and hate to install new controls, new holes in the transom, ect...I know that the best thing out right now for this boat would be the F70 but it is a lot more money then the evinrude. I can get a 2010 for $5500. Does this sound good? Thanx
Tohsgib posted 08-31-2010 10:36 PM ET (US)
Not bad for $5500 depending on what else. Bud just bought a 2008 F60 for $4500 in the crate.
tedious posted 09-01-2010 06:18 AM ET (US)
I'd double check whether you'll be able to re-use the controls - a 2010 eTec is a pretty radically different beast than a 1978 Johnson. Chances are you'll be able to, but best to know going in.
Ditto on the transom holes - if your current motor is installed using the blind holes for the lower bolts, you'll want to check whether the eTec even has those. If you're not currently using the blind holes, but is mounted with the standard pattern, any motor will fit.
You may also want to see if your current prop can be re-used.
I can't advise on the price, but in looking at Yamahas I found the prices vary greatly across the country - as much as $2K. Unfortunately, the highest prices seem to be right here in New England. It may pay you to take a road trip!
Tim
cmeichler33 posted 09-01-2010 03:14 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tim, I have brand new BRP controls that I'm sure that they can be used with the new ETEC. As far as the transom holes, I have a stainless steel plate in the front of the transom and want to keep that plate so I figure I can put on a jack plate keep the original holes and mount the ETEC on that, no fuss, no muss!
Tohsgib posted 09-01-2010 03:32 PM ET (US)
Any controls will work, especially the new BRP. All of the warning stiff is now in the gauges. Make sure your warning horn is doing it's job but dealer "should" check for that when installing. If your controls do not have the horn, they are not cheap, I did not want to spend $70+ for the horn so I rigged up a horn from radioshack that was like $5.

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Author	Topic: Repowering my 15 with a 60HP Evinrude Etec
cmeichler33	posted 08-28-2010 08:48 PM ET (US) I was thinking of repowering my 1979 15 Sport with a new 60 Evinrude. I would like to know if anyone has this motor, what they think of it, set up, mph, performance. Any info would be much appreciated.
tedious	posted 08-28-2010 09:28 PM ET (US) Try a search on "etec AND 60 and 15" and you'll find quite a bit of info. Tim
cmeichler33	posted 08-28-2010 09:46 PM ET (US) Thanks Tim!
tedious	posted 08-29-2010 05:37 AM ET (US) Even better if I had remembered to capitalize the second "AND" but hopefully it worked for you. Good luck with the repower - I wish Evinrude made an eTec 70! Tim
Sal DiMercurio	posted 08-30-2010 03:10 PM ET (US) E-TECH makes a 75 hp that most insurance companies would let slide, as it's only 5 hp over maximum rateing for that boat. Sal
tedious	posted 08-30-2010 05:17 PM ET (US) Sal, the 5 horsepower for the eTec 75 isn't worth the extra 63 pounds over the F70. Using Crouch's calculator and a base boat weight of 950 pounds, the difference in speed predicts to be only 0.4 MPH - 43.7 for the eTec 75, 43.3 for the F70. Not worth the potential insurance hassle, at least not to me. For reference, the eTec 60 comes in at 40.4. Note that I am not saying that Yamahas are better than Evinrudes or 4 strokes are better than 2; it's just that when weight is a factor, as it is with the 15, you're better off at the high horsepower point for a given block size. Tim
cmeichler33	posted 08-30-2010 10:45 PM ET (US) 40 mph sounds good for me. The 75 ETEC weighs too much, I thought about it but that extra weight takes away that 15 horses...not worth it in my eyes. But thanks for everyones input. I woudld definently be happy if Evinrude came out with a 70 HP. That I would take in a heart beat!
Tohsgib	posted 08-30-2010 11:03 PM ET (US) E-Tec 40-60hp do not seem to be great top speed engines, some say due to gearcase drag. I say it is a 2cyl and what can you expect? Any 60hp will fetch you 40mph on a 15' so shop around and buy what you want and make sure you have a good dealer network if that makes you happy.
10000 Lakes	posted 08-31-2010 02:18 AM ET (US) Early 15's were labeled to 75hp. Then Whaler reduced the rating to 70 max due to squirrley habits of the fifteen footer at high speeds the interest of liability. I have an original dealer letter in my file documenting this fact. Check your label!
dgoodhue	posted 08-31-2010 06:14 AM ET (US) When the smaller ETEC's were being released BRP listed a 240# 70hp 2 cylinder E-TEC. It never came and was drop from BRP literature. I would love to see that engine someday. If you can get away with an overpowered 15', I would buy 90hp E-TEC that weighs the same as a 75 E-TEC (320#'s) Otherwise I would buy 60hp E-TEC if you were looking to buy an E-TEC.
Tohsgib	posted 08-31-2010 10:32 AM ET (US) I think only 1975 15's were 75hp. Yamaha makes the only light 70hp. I have been on a 15 with a 90 e-tec and it was silly at 52mph. Weight was not bad on her but price is a major concern.
cmeichler33	posted 08-31-2010 09:46 PM ET (US) Thank you for all the imput...Im on the fence about what exact set up I want but I love Evinrude. Ive had a few of them with very little problems. Right now I have a 1978 55HP Johnson, the powerhead was rebuilt in 1988 and is still going strong. I have a lot of hours on her and hate to install new controls, new holes in the transom, ect...I know that the best thing out right now for this boat would be the F70 but it is a lot more money then the evinrude. I can get a 2010 for $5500. Does this sound good? Thanx
Tohsgib	posted 08-31-2010 10:36 PM ET (US) Not bad for $5500 depending on what else. Bud just bought a 2008 F60 for $4500 in the crate.
tedious	posted 09-01-2010 06:18 AM ET (US) I'd double check whether you'll be able to re-use the controls - a 2010 eTec is a pretty radically different beast than a 1978 Johnson. Chances are you'll be able to, but best to know going in. Ditto on the transom holes - if your current motor is installed using the blind holes for the lower bolts, you'll want to check whether the eTec even has those. If you're not currently using the blind holes, but is mounted with the standard pattern, any motor will fit. You may also want to see if your current prop can be re-used. I can't advise on the price, but in looking at Yamahas I found the prices vary greatly across the country - as much as $2K. Unfortunately, the highest prices seem to be right here in New England. It may pay you to take a road trip! Tim
cmeichler33	posted 09-01-2010 03:14 PM ET (US) Thanks Tim, I have brand new BRP controls that I'm sure that they can be used with the new ETEC. As far as the transom holes, I have a stainless steel plate in the front of the transom and want to keep that plate so I figure I can put on a jack plate keep the original holes and mount the ETEC on that, no fuss, no muss!
Tohsgib	posted 09-01-2010 03:32 PM ET (US) Any controls will work, especially the new BRP. All of the warning stiff is now in the gauges. Make sure your warning horn is doing it's job but dealer "should" check for that when installing. If your controls do not have the horn, they are not cheap, I did not want to spend $70+ for the horn so I rigged up a horn from radioshack that was like $5.