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Repowering: Looking at Horsepower per Dollar as a decision maker
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| Author | Topic: Repowering: Looking at Horsepower per Dollar as a decision maker |
| Jeff |
posted 09-23-2010 04:51 PM ET (US)  
Today I was looking around at some prices on motors when something struck my interest. What is your best Horsepower per Dollar option when repowering? Often times people argue that they bought a lower HP motor because it was cheaper. Is it? Here is my break down on just E-Tecs as an example priced from a dealer's price list (numbers are rounded to nearest whole number): These figures are all based on 20" shaft motors in Standard Rotation with Standard Gearcases, Remote Steering in the non salt water series, non HO models. In-Line Models
So, is really cheaper to by the lower HP motor in the block size? Is / should the Horsepower per Dollar be a driving force in repower? The final price tag may be less for the lower Horsepower but, your money would have likely gone further with the next HP up if you could. Also you would likely see better MPG averages as well. At least in theory. If nothing else I found the numbers interesting....... |
| Jeff |
posted 09-23-2010 04:57 PM ET (US)
Sorry, The 115 and 130 are V-4's and should have been in their own column and separate from the in-lines and V-6's. |
| jimh |
posted 09-23-2010 05:32 PM ET (US)
I knew I should have bought the 300. |
| contender |
posted 09-23-2010 07:46 PM ET (US)
Jeff, depends were the engine is getting more power from the same block. Is the engine getting more hp from the larger jets in the fuel injection, large bore, more stroke? or both, or is it just a different brain box running the spark and electronics. Take care. |
| jimh |
posted 09-23-2010 08:39 PM ET (US)
Unfortunately, more horsepower always costs more money to buy. At some point, the marginal change in boat performance is not worth the linear change in cost. Boat speed increases with horsepower at the 0.5 exponent. Engine cost increases with horsepower at the 0.9 to 1.0 exponent. |
| Tohsgib |
posted 09-23-2010 10:44 PM ET (US)
Sorry but anyone who pays over $4k for a 25hp is an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 115 for almost $10k....major idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Tohsgib |
posted 09-23-2010 10:48 PM ET (US)
Again sorry but use Ed's for a "benchmark". Pay more than Ed's an you are an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I post deals here evry time I can. Taking a road trip to FL(not a bad idea in winter) to save a few grand is smart. Free vacation for the idiots. |
| JMARTIN |
posted 09-24-2010 12:27 AM ET (US)
Free vacation, yeah right. I am 2900 miles away from Ed's and 3200 miles away from "all the great deals" in Florida. John |
| Tohsgib |
posted 09-24-2010 11:01 AM ET (US)
Then have it shipped for $3-400. I can get new E-Tec 115's for less than $8k...That is $2k less and worth it to ship. No Sales tax that way either. $4075 for a 25hp? Bass pro will beat that by a grand and they are not that cheap. |
| JMARTIN |
posted 09-24-2010 12:06 PM ET (US)
It so happens that we are interested in a E-Tec 90 and the prices in your area are lower. So I better check to see if we have an E-Tec qualified mechanic to rig it and make sure the warranty is going to be valid. I suppose some would not care that you did not buy the motor from them and some wouldn't give a rip. John |
| Stevebaz |
posted 09-24-2010 12:23 PM ET (US)
I just received my outboard shipped from Tampa Bay Florida to my door Azusa California (Los Angeles) in 4 days for a cost of $230 (500lb outboard crate) it wasn't 500 lbs closer to 400 but that was the billing rate. Shipping was done by Xpress Global. For some reason buying a good used motor in California is much harder than in Florida unless you go knocking door to door or know someone. They don’t use Craig’s list or E-bay or other public sales channels. For me I have to drive 50 miles round trip to see an outboard vendor. Steve |
| Tohsgib |
posted 09-24-2010 02:22 PM ET (US)
J...should not be a problem finding a dealer to rig it. Some I know have even just paid the dealer($100 or so) to sign off on it after THEY rigged it themselves due to being overpowered and no dealer will rig them. An86carrera and Ridge Runner both did the later with their overpowered Whalers. Check around. FL is big. I drove 8 hours each way to buy my motorcycle and was still in FL. I drove 3 1/2 each way to buy my Suzuki. For $230 I should have had it shipped. |
| contender |
posted 09-24-2010 02:25 PM ET (US)
Try Custom Marine in Statesboro Ga., good deals on outboards, last year I paid $2200(no taxes for shipped items) for nib Yamaha 25 and $90 to ship it about 700 miles. The same engine in S. Fl was $3000 plus tax, And I live here. You just have to shop around.... |
| dino54904 |
posted 09-28-2010 11:10 AM ET (US)
Jeff, Sometime this winter when I am sitting around with absolutely nothing else to do I would like to construct a data table similar to yours except I would add MPH estimates into the chart. Speed is the expected deliverable result of additional horsepower and therefore what is tangibly gained for the money spent I (I almost said 'invested'). The value for money spent on additional horsepower and corrisponding speed depends upon how a person uses thier boat. That is where the cost / return relationship comes into play. Sounds like I'm making this more complicated than it needs to be doesn't it? Dino |
| Tohsgib |
posted 09-28-2010 11:56 PM ET (US)
Shop around...stop being lazy! |
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